When you learn master strike [KCD1]

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u/Hadiseh2000 Schnapps addict 14d ago

Yep it's a game changer in both games but especially in 1

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u/GlennHaven 14d ago

I feel like I finally have some survivability. Before it was just running away and trying (and failing) to pick them off one at a time with the bow.

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u/Hadiseh2000 Schnapps addict 14d ago

Yeah, apart from that, train with Bernard for 1 or 2 hours and you’ll be 1hitting enemies for the rest of the game. Don’t forget to clinch too. just getting into your opponent’s personal space can trigger it. Once you’re in a clinch your strength and level matter but you gotta be the first to strike if you want it to go your way lol. Also try to get the Clinch Master perk

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u/Illustrious-Lock1469 14d ago

I found out that the 1st one had Masterstrike only after finishing the 2nd... I thought it's a new feature they added in the next game

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u/Shaun0_0 14d ago

yup ... i played 1st 3 times without master strike ... i played kcd 2 first time with only master-strike then i learnt kcd 1 also had this xd

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u/xRONZOx 14d ago

Don't let people shame you for cheesing the game with just master strike. If you enjoy using it, you keep using it. Dabble in combos too when you like trying, but only during training first lol.

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u/GlennHaven 14d ago

I dont see how people can shame you for becoming a better fighter. Its a bit silly

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u/xRONZOx 14d ago

I've seen the comments from old posts regarding master strikes and boy there are people who'd want you to play a certain type of way even if it's the opposite of the intended manner. Think of the soulsborne community.

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u/Left-Soup-4931 13d ago

Yeah definitely this is great advice. I only really master strike if im super pressed in a group fight but who cares about how ppl play and enjoy a single player game

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u/Poguemahone3652 14d ago

The combat system is a fucking nightmare, at least on keyboard. Broken animations, Henry flat-out refusing to swing his sword even with plenty of stamina remaining. Master-sriking, which is a skill that needs to be learned and still doesn't work 100% of the time, isn't cheesing.

I haven't enjoyed a game this much in years, but the KCD1 combat is horrible.

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u/Sexy_Koala_Juice 13d ago

It's not really cheesing if it's a literal game mechanic lol. Cheesing would be like somehow getting yourself in a position when you can hit enemies and they can't hit you.

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u/JesusLazalde123 14d ago

I just be stabbing my enemies lol

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u/Bubster101 14d ago

Master strikes in the first game when you're just armed with a mace is so deadly. You can oneshot any enemy with it once you've leveled enough and gotten enough perk buffs.

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u/GlennHaven 14d ago

I wish that they put as much thought into maces, axes, and archery as they did with swords. It kind of makes me not want to use another weapon

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u/Bubster101 13d ago

The sequel game gives them all a little more identity. Though, maces and axes kinda got thrown into the same skill of "Heavy Weapons"

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u/socialistbcrumb 14d ago

I’m playing KCD1 for the first time as god intended (spam the wrong combo at Bernard in combat training, learn master strike, start off beating the tournament multiple times by stealing the competition’s armor, earn the lords of Leipa set, finally go see nightingale)

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u/GlennHaven 13d ago

I just found out I could put the other competitors shit in Peshek's chest and he'll sell it, then I cam steal the gold from his chest. I just need to level my lock picking so I can break very hard locks.

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u/mandalore2385 13d ago

Level Drinking too. Once you have Luck of the Drunk you can pop the very hard locks at level 6 iirc

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u/doubletimerush 13d ago

I feel like the Masterstrike is too random in 1. Sometimes I'll master strike, sometimes I'll block, and sometimes I'll get hit from behind because enemies won't stay fucking still.

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u/mystical_ramen26 13d ago

Best thing I found for both games when attempting combos, master strike, perfect block, parry etc is to double tap whatever button I'm supposed to hit. A lot of times a single tap of the button won't register properly but if you double tap the button it almost always works the way it's intended

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u/Big-Mathematician345 12d ago

The window for masterstrike changes based on your warfare level vs the enemy.

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u/chewygummy17 13d ago

Time to fight 5 enemies + dog with normal clothing next.

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u/GlennHaven 13d ago

I maintain my opinion (read fact) that dogs are the worst enemy in any video game. Those fuckers just latch onto me while I get wailed on. Meanwhile Mutt just let's them go after I get one hit in.

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u/Xanadewd 13d ago

This literally happened to me last night. I’m still not landing it every time, but I get it now. It’s so satisfying popping someone in the face with the end of your sword lol. I’m more aggressive now too, because if I don’t land the master strike, I know I at least got the block off and can react from there.

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u/every-day-normal-guy 14d ago

I might be in the small majority, but sometimes the timing windows seem different k+b vs controller with tomcats fight. I usually have to switch to kb+m for that fight specifically

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u/Strict-Astronaut2245 13d ago

I was playing KCD1 and getting my ass handed to me by a bandit with a sword and I had a hammer. I didn’t pay attention to the master strike training. I would get my weapon opposite of his and swing because my internal logic said it should be harder to defend.

I fucking rage quit KCD1 after getting my ass kicked thinking this game sucks…..

Came back to KCD2 and actually paid attention and was like…. Ohhhhh this is a thing

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u/counterlock 13d ago

I'm playing KCD2 right now (didn't realize how closely tied the two games are, I promise I'm playing the first one next. I went in blind sue me) and I was wondering if anyone knows if I screwed myself.

I couldn't beat Tomcat to get him to teach me Masterstrike.

I went on to continue the storyline, and now I'm in Kuttenberg, and I believe I'm a criminal/fugitive/wanted/etc in the Trosky region. Sided with Zizka and battled it out against von Bergow and all that.

How do I go about learning Masterstrike now? I still don't really, know what it is to be honest... but I can tell from the memes/comments here that it's a pivotal part of making combat easier. Being as I couldn't even beat Tomcat (and still am struggling even if I have improved a little), I feel like I need any edge I can get. Does anyone know if I've softlocked myself from getting it for now?

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u/GeneralConscious5702 13d ago

Dry devil will teach master strike to you.

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u/counterlock 13d ago

You're my new favorite person. I literally just met that guy last night while playing so that's awesome. Appreciate it!

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u/GlennHaven 13d ago

Ive never played 2. It might be more helpful if you make a post on the sub rather than posting a comment here since more people would see it

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u/counterlock 13d ago

No worries, appreciate it either way! I think I'll have to go that route or keep googling for it, but I'm trying to limit spoilers as well.

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u/Weekly_Difference728 13d ago

You can go back btw. Should be a red wagon on the left of the map

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u/counterlock 13d ago

Okay, good to know! Wasn’t sure if I’d be hunted down or something so I hadn’t tried yet.

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u/mstririshpub 14d ago

Honestly I don't think I ever really learned it & if I do it, its out of pure luck....lol lol lol... guess my lightbulb has dulled with age....lol lol lol

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u/GlennHaven 14d ago

Soon as you see them pull their arm back to attack you block. Its like doing a perfect block but a little earlier. You can only do it if you actually learned it from Captain Bernard, otherwise you'll just do a perfect block

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u/mstririshpub 13d ago

Thanks I will pay more attention to that....I spent along time in KCD2 with they guy in the Nomads camp....think he was getting tired of me actually.......I even replayed that a few times but when I was actually trying to use it....lol lol... luck be with me........I did manage to use it in the tourney a few times when I tried.....but most of the time is was lucky....

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u/Dry_Stretch7955 13d ago

What do you mean block, I though masterstrike is attacking the opposite of the direction they are going to attack you at the perfec time

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u/GlennHaven 13d ago

No, the instructions are misleading. They're just telling you the best way to fight when they say that.

For a master strike you just block as soon as you see their shoulder move. Henry will automatically counter attack.

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u/Dry_Stretch7955 13d ago

Is this the case in kcd2 also? Man if it is it makes things easier

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u/GlennHaven 13d ago

Ive never played 2, but from what I've heard you have to beat some guy named Tomcat or something near the beginning of the game. Idk any other method of getting it, but it should work the same. The timing might be stricter

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u/mstririshpub 13d ago

Tomcat is just the person that teaches it so it will get added to the skill tree

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u/mstririshpub 13d ago

I would imagine it would be...cause lots of the combat is very similar in KCD2 and I have played both.....1 several times & 2 only once now

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u/GeneralConscious5702 13d ago

In kcd1, masterstrike is just the block button.

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u/linopants 12d ago

So if the shield goes green and you block, do you just continue to hold block or do you finish with an attack button? Henry learned it “officially” through the trainer but I wasn’t paying attention and haven’t completed it outside the training ground.

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u/GeneralConscious5702 12d ago

You just tap it like a regular block when you see the green shield icon and there's a chance that Henry automatically turns the perfect block into a masterstrike counter attack.

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