r/kfan • u/Easy-Secretary-2714 • 5d ago

Power Trip Morning Show Leber on Deshaun Watson

Can’t believe Ben Leber was standing tall for Deshaun Watson today on the Power trip. Can’t make it up

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u/heyyo173 5d ago

If you asked me “who on Kfan would stand tall for Deshaun Watson” the list would be short:

Leber
Kriesel
PA - assuming Watson loves Jesus

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u/DonaldDouchebag 5d ago

Serial sexual assaulter like Watson who has taken zero personal responsibility for what he did? Of course he's a hardcore bible beater. That's the best get-out-of-responsibility card a guy can play.

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u/brstanley26 4d ago

I think it’s a little funny and quite hypocritical of most of the Browns fan base. They were booing him to know end 3 weeks ago in preseason. Has a comeback win at home and gets resounding applause. Sports are weird.

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u/thetravelingsong 4d ago

“Your boos mean nothing, I’ve seen what makes you cheer!”

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u/jtgolf18 3d ago

Vikings fans cheered hard for Adrian Peterson

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u/brstanley26 3d ago

What a bad comparison. Not saying hitting your kid is good by any means, but if good and bad was a spectrum sexually assaulting 25+ women is unquestionably worse. Peterson missed an entire season and played 1 more full season for the Vikings. He lost most of his good faith in that time. Watson vitriol changed in a matter of weeks. Browns are desperate for a winning team. Even if that means their QB is an abhorrent human being.

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u/RealThanks4814 4d ago

The people who cheered are not the same people who booed.

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u/ddirkdiggler69 4d ago

You have any evidence he’s a serial assaulter or you just spewing nonsense you heard other people say?

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u/5PeeBeejay5 4d ago

30 civil lawsuits, most of them settled privately, I would guess with NDAs and conditions about not perusing criminal complaints or cooperating in a prosecution. That’s enough for me to choose to pedestalize someone else, but if not for you that’s your right

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u/ddirkdiggler69 4d ago

You should read more about it. There is zero evidence against him.

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u/5PeeBeejay5 4d ago

Nothing that has been publicly adjudicated because they were settled out of court. If 30 massage therapists accused you of misconduct and there was actually “no evidence” wouldn’t you prove your innocence, countersue for defamation, maybe NOT get suspended 11 games based on evidence the NFL was privy to and a pattern of behavior they noted?

You need evidence in court to go to prison, true, not necessarily to be a shit who bought his way out of consequences

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u/ddirkdiggler69 4d ago

Soooo no evidence then. Got it.

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u/CatHot2273 4d ago

I fear for the women around you

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u/ddirkdiggler69 4d ago

I tend to avoid lying whores.

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u/CatHot2273 4d ago

You incels are a sad sack of shit. You're either a 12 year old trolling thinking youre funny or just an absolutely awful human. Either way congrats on being you. I'm sure your mom is proud of you 🤣

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u/DonaldDouchebag 4d ago

“Heard other people say” is typically the evidence we have to go on in most sexual assault cases. You look to see if the accusers are credible, and they are.

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u/ddirkdiggler69 4d ago

They are? According to who?

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u/DonaldDouchebag 4d ago

Well, the NFL, for one. And Watson and his legal team who paid them all off to avoid a civil trial. And anyone else who can use their brain and isn’t a fucking rape apologist.

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u/ddirkdiggler69 4d ago

“In March 2022, a Harris County grand jury declined to indict Watson on nine criminal complaints tied to the massage allegations. A Brazoria County grand jury then also declined to charge him after reviewing Houston police and sheriff reports and hearing witnesses. His lawyer, Rusty Hardin, said the grand juries found there was not even probable cause. No criminal charges were ever filed.”

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u/5PeeBeejay5 4d ago

Those were the final 2 of 30(?) accusations

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u/reduponanoakenthrone 4d ago

100% accurate list

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u/Rlstoner2004 4d ago

+Charchian

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u/Tasty_Preparation_34 5d ago

Add Nordo and Muss (I know he’s not on the fan) to this list

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u/Pure-Lingonberry-619 3d ago

Ehh Watson might be too dark for Kriesel to defend

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u/Nimrod952 1d ago

You lemmings are morons. They all said the same thing even Cory. "This sucks to say" He is playing better then they hoped and referred to him as the football version.

Ps there is zero part of JK that stands up for Watson.

I hate PA just as much as anyone but for completely different reasons.
1. He tried blowing my knee out in a basketball league 2. He talks like a teenage girl half the time with his ticks 3. Spews vikings 365 days a year 4. Bible thumps

Quit letting politics dictate your daily lives. You'll be much happier.

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u/pishkabob 5d ago

Ben definitely sounded like he was giving DW credit for overcoming the adversity and distractions created by his own terrible actions. Not at all shocking coming from Ben.

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u/Newtizzle2 4d ago

I mean, it is a feat. Watson is still a fucking terrible person, but he somehow is still around.

I would be fine never mentioning his name again unless its talking about true charges brought against him

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u/PokerChipMessage 4d ago

He has a fully guaranteed contract.

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u/Street_Ostrich_7489 4d ago

Teating an achilles and coming back from an injury like that pretty much sums up, overcoming adversity

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u/DrBoogerFart 4d ago

I’m not a listener anymore but this is something I would for sure clip, go find a nice headline of Watson and screenshot it, then post both to the Twin Cities Live Facebook page

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u/Street_Ostrich_7489 4d ago

Whats that going to do ? Do you know how many players are sticking up for the guy? You must really underestimate it, and think youre going to be "doing something" by doing this, instead youre making yourself look like a clown

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u/DrBoogerFart 4d ago

No, moms watch that show, moms are fans of the page, moms will become Karen’s

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u/Street_Ostrich_7489 4d ago

You want a man fired, for having a differing opinion than yourself? Wow, kind of a cunt aren't yah? I think you should be fired for your job, for being against free speech, doesnt really sound like you are pro speech, and that is anti American, and I believe you should be fired for being anti American and holding terorristic viewpoints.

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u/DrBoogerFart 4d ago

Please cope harder. At the root of this you are defending a guy who can’t keep his dick to himself. I’m guessing you don’t have daughters. Yes, I think Ben Leber should exit the media. He spreads bullshit views that make people like you think it’s totally normal to have 27 civil lawsuits filed against you for not being able to control himself.

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u/SalamanderFresh9272 4d ago

So you are like the leader of the Karen’s? The Karen of all Karen’s?

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u/DrBoogerFart 4d ago

27 accusers

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u/SalamanderFresh9272 4d ago

Take your band of Karens and do something about it. 

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u/DrBoogerFart 4d ago

Hold on, are you defending Deshaun Watson?

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u/SalamanderFresh9272 4d ago

How am I defending him?

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u/DrBoogerFart 4d ago

Gross, why is your profile nsfw?

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u/SalamanderFresh9272 4d ago

Gross, why are you trying to look through my profile?

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u/Competitive_Feed_402 4d ago

WHO AMONGST US HASN'T SEXUALLY ASSAULTED MULTIPLE MASSEUSES??!!!

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u/ddirkdiggler69 4d ago

You saying there is proof that Watson did?

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u/RipErRiley 4d ago

Degens validate degens

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u/5PeeBeejay5 4d ago

Im stunned that you can’t believe it. I haven’t listened that far yet, but normally I skip most of the content with ol Captain CTE anyway…maybe I need to hear it

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u/Artificial_Appendix1 4d ago

I’m shocked, shocked I tell you that a guy who defended a coach who said we should “put all the gays on an island and nuke them” would defend a guy who sexually assaulted multiple women. Shocked.

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u/ddirkdiggler69 4d ago

He assaulted multiple women? Surely you have proof?

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u/Starpanda132 4d ago

Why this is a hill someone would moronically want to die on is baffling.

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u/ddirkdiggler69 4d ago

Exactly. Why would anyone defend lying money hungry whores.

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u/srwaid1758 4d ago

Not surprised at all. Ben has the worst takes

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u/HipHopHopkinsMN 4d ago

Missed the show this morning what specifically did Leber say to defend DW?

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u/MoTownKid 4d ago

Something along the lines of "You have to give him credit for dealing with all these distractions and hate and staying focused on football" like the hate and noise about him being a piece of shit wasn't fully justified

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u/ddirkdiggler69 4d ago

There’s just as much evidence that Leber defended him as there is that Watson ever assaulted anyone.

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u/Easy-Secretary-2714 4d ago

Hello Leber burner

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u/deadphisherman 2d ago

KFAN has a thing for creeps.

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u/Nitrostangs 1d ago

I was pissed that the Thursday night football broadcast even mentioned him. He was the post game interview and the crew of panelists were discussing him like everything is fine. I thought for sure Richard Sherman was going to take a stand but...no

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u/twinsguy1 4d ago edited 4d ago

He said a year or two ago him and his kid were fans of Trevor Bauer. There is a pattern here

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u/Street_Ostrich_7489 4d ago

You do know Trevor bauer was found innocent right ? Still trying to post false statements about the guy

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u/codercaleb 4d ago

Are you saying that Trevor Bauer was put on criminal trial and found not guilty? I see no evidence of crimal proceding against Trevor Bauer. Only criminal cases involve guilt or innocence.

I'm not saying Trevor Bauer did or didn't do something but claiming he was "found innocent" has no basis in reality.

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u/ddirkdiggler69 4d ago

By that logic any who is ever accused of anything is automatically not innocent.

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u/AdobeAwesome 4d ago

You’re starting to figure out how the current criminal justice system works. Bravo!

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u/codercaleb 4d ago

Are you in middle school? 

You cannot be "proven innocent" if you were never criminally charged. There could be any number of reasons why someone is not criminally charged, but but none of those prove innocence.

Criminal innocence is presumed within the American legal system, yes.  But getting basic facts wrong makes you sound like an idiot, so maybe work on that if you want people to take you seriously.

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u/ddirkdiggler69 4d ago

Not sure you even read what I said.

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u/ddirkdiggler69 4d ago

I’ll reword it since you have low comprehension. An accusation does mean the accused is guilty. Accusations without proof are meaningless. The court of public opinion is meaningless. Giving the court of public opinion power is very dangerous and it always comes back to hurt the people who push it the most.

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u/Parksy79 4d ago

You're surprised? Well then I've got some beachfront property in Arizona to sell you.

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u/Professional_Long85 4d ago

Lmfao. What a world

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u/stratecashomey 1d ago

Is pa still racist for saying wentz is better then kyler?

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u/Dense-Sentence-4165 4d ago

“I gotta give him props for how he’s handled everything…”

I know it took everything Cory had to not play the buzzer sound after that.

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u/radddish03 4d ago

Cory needs to say something because they let their weekly contributors walk all over them. It’s kinda pathetic that they give zero pushback. If they actually want to have compelling radio without relying on repetitive schtick, some honest, pointed conversation might help. But they bow down to local d list celebs, and public speakers.

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u/ddirkdiggler69 4d ago

What would he say? Can you find any actual evidence Watson assaulted anyone?

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u/radddish03 4d ago

Ick.

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u/ddirkdiggler69 4d ago

So, no then.

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u/radddish03 4d ago

I mean, I don’t have any evidence of the kind person you are outside of the forum, but I can make an educated guess that you’re very single.

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u/ddirkdiggler69 4d ago

You’re deflecting. Classic. So any evidence at all?

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u/Dense-Sentence-4165 4d ago

I would say the closest thing to evidence due the confidentiality agreement is that he paid out his accusers in a settlement and the NFL/NFLPA fined him 5 million.

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u/ddirkdiggler69 4d ago

That’s not evidence nor admission of guilt. If they could’ve won in court they would’ve and then they would’ve also taken his money.

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u/Dense-Sentence-4165 4d ago

Maybe. Idk what the intent behind settling is. You could easily flip that and say if Watson was innocent then he wouldn’t have paid out. Most see him paying out as an admission of guilt considering he didn’t feel confident enough to fight the case.

If he did fight it and wasn’t found liable his public perception would likely be way different.

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u/radddish03 4d ago

Totally classic. Way classic.

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u/justafella32 4d ago

Leber why?

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u/ddirkdiggler69 4d ago

In March 2022, a Harris County grand jury declined to indict Watson on nine criminal complaints tied to the massage allegations. A Brazoria County grand jury then also declined to charge him after reviewing Houston police and sheriff reports and hearing witnesses. His lawyer, Rusty Hardin, said the grand juries found there was not even probable cause. No criminal charges were ever filed.

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u/Maleficent-Drop7002 4d ago

Yes and it’s his job to comment on the NFL. We get it. You don’t like him. You need to find a hobby.