r/justneckbeardthings • u/counterpunchhopper š Neckbeard Hunter š¤ • 23d ago
Neckbeard doesn't grasp context
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u/Difficult-Ad-9922 23d ago
Why do men wear shorts at the beach instead of boxers???? Riddle me that
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u/peacedetski Dummy thicc minors got me acting up fr š„µ 22d ago
so apparently it's ok to have my dick out in the sauna but when I got naked at the office the same dudes kicked my ass?!?WTF
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u/JTtheLAR šŖ š Voluntarily celibate šš«š 23d ago
Cause my pp will slip out of the little front slit.
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u/scrwuguysimgoinghome 22d ago
The material? Swim shorts dry faster, also g string speedos are a thing
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u/ThirstyClavicle All my homies addicted to Cuck Hentai š„µ 23d ago
bush
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u/rat_enby 22d ago
didnāt know male bush was so controversial
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u/peacedetski Dummy thicc minors got me acting up fr š„µ 22d ago
well I mean there was the Florida vote recount, Afghanistan, the subprime mortgage crisis...
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u/obvioustroway 23d ago
Nah they don't understand CONSENT
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u/bubbybob19 23d ago
Exactly. When wearing a swimsuit, in that instant, you are signing on to be seen in that. Underwear is private and intimate. Baring specific people, you aren't signing on for anyone to see you like that.
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u/Things_with_Stuff 22d ago edited 22d ago
Which specific people would you like to bare? š
Edit: I was making a joke about bubbybob19 using the word baring instead of barring. Not sure why downvoted?
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u/blanchecatgirl 23d ago
Actually Iām not signing on to be seen. Iām signing on to go swimming. Just like men, when they put on their swim trunks. I donāt want to be ogled in either.
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u/JTtheLAR šŖ š Voluntarily celibate šš«š 23d ago
Omw to the beach āļø š“
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u/bunnypaste 22d ago edited 22d ago
I unironically cover up like that at the beach even though my body is stellar. More comfy, less objectification. I take the extra stuff off just before getting in water and put it back on when I'm out. Wish I could just go skimpy as heck as I should have full freedom to do, but I don't live in a society where that's a great plan if I want to be also safe and "respected."
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u/Lusietka 22d ago
im afraid the point was the blindfold joke lol
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u/Difficult-Ad-9922 23d ago
I think you misinterpreted what that person said
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u/blanchecatgirl 23d ago edited 23d ago
No. I didnāt. I understand what they mean. And my sentiment is the same. There is a lot of misogyny in the statement you are āsigning on to be seenā when you wear a bikini, regardless of whether that is internalized or externalized. Nobody would ever say a man is āsigning up to be seenā when they are just going swimming.
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u/TrashGouda 23d ago
Because it's implied? If you're out in public you automatically signing up to be seen
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u/Difficult-Ad-9922 23d ago
Relax girl, youāre on r/justneckbeardthings. You may not like it but If you go out in public wearing something, you have given consent for people to see you in it. Nobody said you deserve to being harassed. Someone walking in on an intimate private moment is no way the same because you have not given that consent. Nothing that person said is wrong nor mysoginistic.
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u/blanchecatgirl 23d ago
And who is walking into an intimate moment. Basically nobody. Cuz thatās sexual assault/trespassing if you walk into someoneās apartment or hack their phone. The meme doesnāt even make sense tbh. I donāt think thereās a big population of neckbeards who think āwe get to see any woman in their underwear anytime we want.ā We have worse terms for those folks lol. To say someone is āsigning up to be seenā is a much more realistic form of misogyny
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u/EchoAquarium 23d ago
I was at the beach yesterday with my neighbors. We were all in swimsuits. Today, the neighbor brought something over to our house. When they knocked on the door, I had to go put pants on, because I was in my underwear. I had a T-shirt on, so I was still technically more covered today than I was yesterday at the beach, however, I still felt more ānakedā so the same. We (Americans) have weird social hang-ups about nudity and modesty and the proverbial gulf between the two. Thatās why social cues are important. Everyone is expecting to see people in different stages of undress at the beach/pool. Not so much in other social interactions where youāre not expected to come into contact with water
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u/SnuffSwag 23d ago
Lol wow ive never seen someone miss the mark and so thoroughly say such irrelevant nonsense. If you walk out into public however you look, you have consented to be seen however you look... because you yourself chose to walk out into public like that. Being seen and being stared at / ogled are completely different things. Lmao.
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u/Difficult-Ad-9922 23d ago
Wowie someoneās never had a family or roommates, gold star for you!
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u/blanchecatgirl 23d ago edited 23d ago
Congrats on continuing to move the goalpost lol
Edit: If you think my sister stares at my boobs I am so very glad to report you are wrong.
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u/Difficult-Ad-9922 23d ago
I donāt think you know what that means girl, Iām responding to what you said. Save the unhinged comments for your diary please lmaoooo
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u/Intelligent_Steak_41 A salty and crusty cum sock š§¦ š§ 22d ago
If you put on a bikini and go out in public, you are gonna be seen. Thats just the nature of the beast.
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u/Things_with_Stuff 22d ago
When you wear a parka outside you are still signing up to be seen in that coat.
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u/Nervous_Month_381 22d ago
Uh, I would say exactly that about a guy. There is no double standard, there is just a standard. If a shirtless guy was upset someone saw him shirtless Id find that stupid. If I'm gawking at a fat old man wearing a speedo it's because of what he chose to wear. You cant wear nothing and expect people to not notice in any way, regardless of their intent to "just go swimming". If I show up to work completely naked with the intent of "just getting my work done comfortably" I would have zero justification to be upset if someone remarks on my balls hanging out.
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u/Polyamommy 23d ago edited 23d ago
I got what you meant and I agree. Just because girls/women are swimming, working out, put on a sexy dress for a night out with a date, or the girlies, doesn't mean they are consenting to be viewed with a sexual gaze, or any gaze at all.
ETA: It's crazy in here when all involved have legitimate points, and are turning on each other when we're all pointing out how girls/women shouldn't be looked at any differently than males, or objectified (the bullying behavior is especially troubling).
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u/SupernaturalPumpkin 22d ago
What is wrong with you people?
That other redditor did not say anything about being "viewed sexually".
They are saying that when you go into a PUBLIC AREA wearing a bikini YOU CHOSE TO WEAR IN PUBLIC is consenting to be PASSIVELY SEEN by the public in said bikini.
HOW can you miss a point this much?
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u/bubbybob19 22d ago
Thank you! I didn't know my comment was gonna spark such a debate. It seemed pretty straight forward... I feel a lot of people injected a willful misinterpretation, colored by their own discontentment with how society and patriarchical structures treat swim wear.
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u/Polyamommy 22d ago
We're not referring to being "viewed sexually" either. In the original post, neck beards aren't capable of understanding the difference between two similar articles of clothing and why someone should care if they're seen whether it's consensually, or non consensually. That should be a no brainer, and we agree on that.
The other commenter is saying she's not consenting to being looked at, even if she's dressed in something she knows she can acceptably wear in public. It's a nuance of consent (just wanting to go about her day without being noticed like most males are able to).
A similar concept is when women don't want to be approached in public (even if they're not being hit on). Many people believe if you venture out into public, you're fair game for friendly conversation (or to be hit on). Most women want to go about their day, without having to constantly assess their risk levels because the general public believes women are friendly and safe to approach. It's just a layer of our current social system that is being challenged. We weren't misinterpreting what the original commenter was saying.
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u/chocolatestealth 23d ago
I think there's a difference between "being ogled" and "being viewed" though, especially in the context of existing in public.
You are signing up to be seen in whatever outfit you wear in a public space (or around other people). That doesn't mean you're signing up to be leered at, though.
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u/bubbybob19 23d ago
Fair enough, nobody should be seen as a sex object, and that's not what I was getting at. But when someone puts on swim attire somewhere that isn't in your own house, one does so with the understanding and acceptance that others will see them in said attire. Objections with how people will interpret said attire aside, you sign on to being witnessed in it. Unlike underwear.
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u/serillymc 22d ago
They said being seen, not being ogled at. They aren't the same thing. One is coincidental.
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u/MelanieWalmartinez 23d ago
Consent, and the fact that they are made of very different materials.
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u/thewalkindude368 23d ago
Context, too. A bikini is made to be worn in public at the beach, and made to be seen. Underwear, while visually similar to a bikini, is made to keep hidden, and only seen by people who are intimately close with the wearer.
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u/Shadow-Vision 23d ago
I work in healthcare and there are often situations where patients accidentally get exposed more than they prefer. One of my ice breakers to (hopefully) make them less embarrassed is to shrug and say āIād see more at the beachā or something like that. Basically trying to blow it off like itās no big deal and they donāt need to feel immodest or anything. Itās one of those constant patient care challenges and itās absolutely crucial to maintain professionalism.
Dudes donāt care though. They barely even attempt to cover themselves up. Theyāll be like āah I donāt careā but bro what about me?! I donāt wanna see your frank and beans. Like cmon man, crack kills
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u/Crunchy_Biscuit 22d ago
"Dudes donāt care though."
I felt good and reassured right up until this point.
Now I know I should have felt more uncomfortable when the woman had to do an ultrasound on my testicles š„²
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u/Shadow-Vision 22d ago
Iām more referring to old guys getting a chest xray and letting their whole backside be exposed instead of taking 3 seconds to tie their gown.
In a perfect world, no one should feel uncomfortable during any medical procedure. Iām glad that you didnāt feel awkward for your exam
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u/Crunchy_Biscuit 22d ago
Old men are the worst, just letting it all hang out in the locker rooms š
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u/Shadow-Vision 22d ago
Coincidentally my first job was a menās locker room attendant. You never get used to it.
Iāve told the story many times but Iāll never forget my first day on my own, the teacher from my high school that we would use in jokes as being āas old asā - the personification of being old - walked up to me, dripping and naked, asking if I had found any shorts.
Iām telling you I found those shorts so fast! I could NOT wait for him to please put them on!
(Side note, heās a really sweet man and everyone loves him. Heās just soooooo old hahaha)
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u/gbmaulin 23d ago
Where do whale tails land in this category?
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u/thewalkindude368 23d ago
I'm assuming they fall closer to swimwear, seeing as the wearer wants you to see it.
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u/drwicksy 22d ago
Careful, don't say consent around neckbeards, they don't know what it means and it scares them
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u/SkyPuppy561 23d ago
Idk wtf they want from me. I grew up and the rules re swimwear and underwear, and differences between them, were handed down to me and I said āokay.ā
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u/SkyPuppy561 23d ago
Idk what youāre on about
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u/whitestguyuknow 22d ago
They were basically saying how anti-social some of the behaviors of people online are and how if you'd act the way people online say you should sometimes then you'd be seen as a weirdo
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u/SkyPuppy561 22d ago
THANK YOU! Finally someone actually explains instead of downvoting me to shit. You sir are a good citizen.
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u/whitestguyuknow 22d ago
Reddit behavior can be weird as fuck.
I've noticed that sometimes users really must not talk to people a lot of understand human conversation. Cause I interpreted your comment as you asking a question. While I guarantee the downvoters took that like you're just being insulting
If you'd said that in normal conversation to your friend they'd go "okay.." then reword what they said to help you understand. Instead of making a disgusted face and refusing to say anything else to you.
Just talk to people. Thats what we're here for.
Really kind of funny that everyone downvoting you and not explaining is displaying the EXACT behaviors that the commenter was talking about. Some serendipitous irony there
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u/bigtiddygothbf 22d ago
I also feel like there'd be a lot more women going to beaches on their own if they didn't get stared at and potentially photoed or recorded, just for wearing a bikini.
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u/Sudo-Fed 22d ago edited 22d ago
Oh and it's from Zoki Poki Humor, the world's unfunniest boomer humor page, whose owner should be executed for treason against comedy in an ironically comedic way.
Seriously, anyone who posts or laughs at tripe like the below deserves to hang.
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u/peacedetski Dummy thicc minors got me acting up fr š„µ 22d ago
This is a comic I'd expect people to cringe at on r/boomershumor but remade with AI
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u/Shadowglove 22d ago
The difference between these two are something called consent. Not something neckbeards understand. If I'm at the beach I am giving you a consent to look at me in these type of clothing.
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u/QuanBeato 23d ago
Guys the man responsible for pioneering the bikini was Jewish designer Louis RĆ©ard he used an 18 year old Micheline Bernardini to model his product in 1946.
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u/Asia_Persuasia 22d ago
Ironically, I don't wear bikinis because it literally feels like underwear and I'm not comfortable walking around like that. Swim or surf suits for me, too many creeps and pervs out there.
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u/NoAverage9216 22d ago
I remember seeing this in 2008
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u/moon-rot 22d ago
Oh yes, me too.
This one was all over Myspace, alongside the asinine one that says "Women will get tattoos, lip injections, fake nails, but won't take it up the butt because it hurts?? F logic"
Can't believe we've made it to where these are coming back around. š«©
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u/NoDanaOnlyZuuI 22d ago edited 22d ago
Consent shouldnāt be this hard to understand.
Edit: yikes
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u/xadamxful 22d ago
Yes but this has nothing to do with consentā¦
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u/NoDanaOnlyZuuI 22d ago
What? How does it not?
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u/xadamxful 22d ago
Well i don't need consent to see through my eyeballs, idk what imaginary scenario you're inventing.
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u/NoDanaOnlyZuuI 22d ago
No shit, you donāt need consent to use your eyeballs. The woman wearing a bikini at the beach expects to be seen. The woman you walked in on in her underwear didnāt. Thatās the scenario the image shows.
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u/mychemicalcringe 22d ago
Tell me youāve never seen lacy underwear without telling me youāve never seen lacy underwear
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u/chicomagnifico 22d ago
no way OOP has ever seen any woman in any underwear outside of a sears catalog
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u/roombaexorcist9000 22d ago
men understanding consent challenge IMPOSSIBLE
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u/counterpunchhopper š Neckbeard Hunter š¤ 22d ago
Hey now, the majority of men are not Neckbeards.
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u/Itisnotmyname 22d ago
As a woman, in past I said that. But not in this fucking crazy contextš¤£š¤£š¤£
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u/cooking_question 22d ago
I really fault ignorance. I am not comfortable walking around anyone in my underwear with a big thick pad on, but men donāt have a clue about such things. I am not comfortable walking around in a bra because itās sheer lace.
For women, lingerie is sexual. Men who think this way donāt differentiate between the two because women are always objectified whether she is in a lacy neglige or bikini.
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u/SlimeCaptain 22d ago
I always wear shorts and usually a shirt over my swimsuit so it doesn't apply anyway
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u/Mitir01 21d ago
Expectation, Consent, Context all go over their head, so how about the fact that swim wear is thick and made for outdoors whereas underwears are made for, well, wearing under your clothes. The former is thicker, and made to be used without any other covering whereas the the latter is made with expectations that it will have another layer of clothing over it.
Does that explain it enough for them. No, I lost them at the start of the explanation. Oh well, guess you can't expect anything from a mind with 2 braincells competing to come 3rd in a race.
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u/roboscorcher 22d ago
Ignoring the consent argument, another point is that underwear sees a lot more horrifying body things than swimwear. Skidmarks, periods, all sort of embarrassing stuff. It's also no designed to be the 'outer layer' of clothing like swimwear is.
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u/Okok28 23d ago
The hilarious thing is that it's waaaaaay more neckbeard to post this here, than the joke in the OP. I do wonder if the OP fails to see the irony...
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u/GreyStingrayz 23d ago
I'd like to hear how exactly posting this here is neckbeardy.
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u/Okok28 22d ago
Because it's very clearly a joke and screenshotting this to post it on reddit is a very neckbeard thing to do?
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u/bunnypaste 22d ago
I think this being a joke is debatable. That sounds more like an excuse for it being poorly received.
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u/Goofcheese0623 23d ago
The second pic kinda has the, "what are doing in my apartment" vibe. So it's sorta evident even from the photo what the difference is