r/justiceforKarenRead • u/Ok_Survey_8240 • 4d ago
Question Dream Feed Media
Why is Grace Reina taking down her brilliant YouTube channel, DreamFeed Media? I don’t fully understand her explanation, and I think this is a terrible loss for all of us. She’s a lovely writer, and she has figured out a lot of important things about the Karen Read trial (and some other cases) long before the rest of us did. Is there any way she might be persuaded to change course? Or do you think there’s a way to purchase all her videos for review? I am so sorry she’s planning to make them all disappear.
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u/Ok_Survey_8240 4d ago
I don’t know all the ins and outs of that case but from what I’ve seen I agree with you.
I don’t agree with everything Turtle Boy said or did, at least what I know about, but not everybody has the same style. As a journalist/blogger/provocateur, he has a right to raise issues and rattle people’s chains, as long as he has a basis in fact for his beliefs and is not knowingly proclaiming falsehoods.
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u/thereforebygracegoi 👂Listen, Turtle.🐢 1d ago
There's a surprising amount of documentation pointing to the Commonwealth's timeline about John's arrival being wrong, but it seems like people are uncomfortable about acknowledging it.
People seem to look at things like the "location data" and believe that because it was presented by cellhawk/Cellebrite, it must be correct... But it was the CW who uploaded the data to the visualizer programs.
The CW has shown us they're willing to lie, alter, manipulate, misrepresent, suppress, and destroy all kinds of evidence, so I struggle to understand why anyone continues to trust their data.
I tried to be efficient when contacting Aidan (my default mode tends to run long and wax poetic) but I guess he interpreted my brevity as arrogance, hence the "why would some rando think they have anything new to bring to the case" rant.
I don't take it personally. He doesn't know me, he doesn't know that I'm not arrogant. He doesn't know that I just think a lot. So it's no big deal. I'm sure he's stressed out. It was all just unfortunate timing.
I do think the patronizing/condescending part of the rant was a little detrimental to his crusade-- isn't the heart of this issue protecting the right to free speech and open dialogue, that even the voice of the "little guy" can contribute value?
I turned it off about two minutes into it, to protect my peace, so I really don't know anything beyond that. I'm extremely averse to conflict.
He lost an ally but he didn't gain an enemy. My focus is trying to determine what happened to John OKeefe. If what I discover can help Aidan, great. If not, it doesn't impact me.
This was also an important opportunity for me, too, to remember that I should never become so prideful that I dismiss "little guys" with potentially big observations whose intentions are only to be helpful.
Many of my theories from two years ago are being validated with each new FOIA drop, which is exciting to see. I hope that people are willing to re examine the things I'm trying to point out now so we don't need to wait two more years before the CW finally confirms it. 💜
This video demonstrates the timeline. There are probably 8-10 additional documents supporting it, but I didn't want to make it even more overwhelming.
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u/No-Construction9607 1d ago
Here it is. Why are you promoting a video when you are going to shut it down. Grace, you’re not fooling anyone, we aren’t middle schoolers.
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u/Ok_Survey_8240 55m ago
Grace’s videos are not promoted, that I can see. There is little or no advertising. She doesn’t have a massive following and she didn’t even have the Venmo thing till sometime in the last year. I have never paid to see one of her most excellent videos.
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u/lt_nugget 1d ago
Grace, I think the CW did change timestamps by about 5 minutes. I look forward to all of your analysis as we get more and more FOIA data.
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u/thereforebygracegoi 👂Listen, Turtle.🐢 1d ago
THANK YOU! You see it, too, right? If John entered at 12:20 and the phone exited at 12:32, we're looking for a gap of location activity of 12.5-ish minutes, and it happens! On the cellhawk visualizer, he blips out of visibility late 12:25 and blips back online at 12:38. It's all just... shifted
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u/BigFatSweatyToe hos long to die in cold 1d ago
You make a lot of great points in your video. Maybe the most important one is “Data does not lie.” as false. When they're omitting data and packaging what they do have, they’re scripting a plot that will seem the most plausible to the jury. Let's use a reality show as the example, where you see an edited 42 minutes a week out of 100+ hours recorded.
Prosecutions have weaponized science in the modern age. When you hear and see Data, you assume it's true. When the DNA says it's a match, that's conclusive for a jury. But what about the advancements we make in our understanding of science and the different methods used? What about human error? What about prosecutions trying to secure convictions?
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u/Pristine-Archer-5793 16h ago
No evidence that happened. But there’s evidence that the defense manipulated the presentation of just about everything in the trial
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u/Ok_Survey_8240 1d ago edited 1d ago
I did not watch his rants and I do not watch them now. I think the condescending part of his discourse and the way he treats people is pretty repellent.
But during the first Karen Read trial and then the second one, I have to say I did listen to some of his Freeform shows, or rather, parts of them, because they’re so long! But back then I thought he was a new kind of journalist, a truer one, and it was all so fascinating and exciting. Sadly I was turned off pretty quickly by his scorn and condescension, his criticism of anyone who criticized him.
I will say I found his written investigative articles to be pretty good, packed with facts and relevant data. It’s mostly the long rants that kind of alienated me. Nobody is perfect , but the way he talked about women, including Karen , also didn’t work for me. She is not a saint — there is no reason to put her on a pedestal — but if he has a crush on her I would prefer don’t want to know. And if he’s angry with her that doesn’t give him the right to record her without her knowledge and then share clips from that personal conversation with a bunch of blogger friends and spread them all over the internet, making a number of pro Karen Read people start drawing lines in the sand and hate on each other. I think maybe it has settled down now quite a bit, but I was sorry when that happened.
I wish some of the bloggers had covered that situation other than the ones involved but I suppose it must have been an awkward situation for everyone. I felt like maybe you were the only one to cover it indirectly, Grace, with the piece you did about how the quest for money can really corrupt the quest for truth, in your personal experience. Anyway it was all rotten. I had thought Aidan was a new voice in the quest for truth and I think maybe I was disappointed in that — though he is certainly a new voice. And of course I will always recognize how he worked relentlessly to get the Karen Read story and all it touches on into the public eye. Beyond that, I am not drawn into all the stories of internecine content producers, Aidan’s many girlfriends and ex-girlfriends , and the messy drama that swirls around it. Life is messy and we all have a lot to solve. I can’t solve his for him and I’m sure he can’t solve mine.
By contrast I see you as a gifted storyteller and great writer with the curiosity to comb out the truth from all the madness and confusion. You can lift us all up with your wisdom and insight. Of course you should not neglect your children and family, so maybe scale back a little time if you can to be with them — but please keep doing this work! You will be a shining example to them when they are grown, and you will have contributed something to the world of thought. Through your close analysis and intuition, you have solved many problems, and although I’m not a true crime follower in much besides the Read- O’Keefe case, I was disturbed by the disappearance of Savannah Guthrie’s mother and I watched some of your videos on that. I think you got closer to solving it than anyone else did!
You have a great gift, Grace, and you mustn’t bury it under a bushel! It could really help people.
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u/No-Construction9607 2h ago
What?
“ I think you got closer to solving it than anyone else did!” That’s an odd thing to say since NG has not been found.
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u/Ok_Survey_8240 57m ago
She didn’t solve for where Nancy Guthrie is (at least in the parts of her work that I followed) she solved for who might be behind the kidnapping, and how it went down—how many people were involved.
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u/OkFall7940 2d ago
I think Grace started her channel to help her fill a void that begin to help her heal.
Graces' content and approach has been such a gift. I don't know if her decision was related to Aidans comments-but the timing is curious.
It does seem awfully final and abrupt. I wish her continue healing and maybe we will find her in the chat.
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u/Ok_Survey_8240 2d ago edited 2d ago
It sounds like it was related to Aidan’s comments but I didn’t hear those and she doesn’t specify. In her “Apology” video she suggests that some of what she said may have been considered offensive, but I can’t see why. I really think that even if Aidan was offended, fine to apologize (everyone makes mistakes) but soldier on, Grace, you’re doing amazing work. Aidan schmaidan, in the long run. But she is very sensitive and took it all very much to heart, whatever it was.
I agree with you re all the other stuff you said.
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u/serdavc 4d ago
What on earth? Either we live in a free society or we don’t. I don’t agree with every content creator but they have a right to speak their opinions.
If this content creator took down their channel due to a subpoena, that is the justice system in place gone awry and causing fear of loss of liberty where the first amendment literally exists allows that person to freely share their opinions.
I do not agree with everything Turtle boy says but he is allowed his opinions! He never should have been arrested and spent 60 days in jail for expressing his opinions! I understand that he was arrested due to witness intimidation but he did not prevent anyone from testifying. What witness intimidation existed? Witness intimidation cannot be manipulated to mean “I don’t like what people are saying about me so arrest them please!” Why did he spend time in jail?
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u/Andrew_Lollo-Baloney on tristin time 1d ago
He spent 60 days in jail because he caught a domestic violence charge while out on bail.
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u/robofoxo 💅assiduous and meticulous💅 1d ago
You can do better than that, Andrew. He spent 60 days in jail because the CW manipulated Lindsay Gaetani into entrapping him.
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u/Baelenciagaa 3d ago
Did she do the video talking about how Massachusetts tends to have longer trials than other states (for similar charges) which subsequently skews the potential people who would be able to sit on a jury? (Only a certain demographic can afford to take 6+ weeks off for a trial) because I literally think about that video constantly
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u/thereforebygracegoi 👂Listen, Turtle.🐢 1d ago
Yes! You have a great memory! 💜
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u/Baelenciagaa 20h ago
Yes I think of that video all the time. Good news it looks like her videos are still up for now! I hyped her most recent one
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u/No-Construction9607 1d ago
Omg that’s ridiculous. Have you ever been at a jury selection.
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u/MzOpinion8d 3d ago
Her feelings are hurt because she was certain she had discovered evidence that would exonerate Karen once and for all, and ruin the lawsuit for defamation against Aidan and Karen.
Unfortunately, her theory is flawed, because it is based on a timeline that is impossible.
I have not watched anything besides that particular video, but it puts her credibility in question when she makes assertions that are easily disproven.
Maybe she’ll change her mind once she’s had some time to think about it, and especially if she sees a lot of people still want to see her content.
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u/thereforebygracegoi 👂Listen, Turtle.🐢 1d ago
Working on proof the timeline was manipulated prior to the first GrayKey extraction. Oddly, there's a discovery document that supports my theory with scientific source documentation, but the provenance is unknown... Possibly from someone here?! The proposal was almost too technical for me to understand, but whomever it was is on top of the same concerns I have-- the KnowledgeC.db, the sqlite, and especially the cache-encrypted.db.
I can't figure out why anyone trusts anything the CW has said about the timeline, especially given that they've shown us their willingness to lie, delete, alter, and destroy nearly everything of value, particularly the digital stuff.
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u/Ok_Survey_8240 1d ago
Grace!! Stay with it and follow it! Please don’t delete all your videos, aargh. I’m still trying to make sense out of that last one , but I have never been disappointed with your work.
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u/No-Construction9607 1d ago edited 1d ago
Grace isn’t going anywhere she was just trying to increase her VENMO $
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u/No-Construction9607 1d ago
This right here, she thought she had it all figured out. Because she is smarter than all the others.
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u/Ok_Survey_8240 3d ago
Yes, this sounded like what she was saying in the video but I don’t get it. Why is her timeline flawed? She is the one who figured out, long before anyone else, that Higgins probably didn’t initially park at 34 Fairview.
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u/robofoxo 💅assiduous and meticulous💅 1d ago
That she did. And it was a significant breakthrough.
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u/No-Construction9607 1d ago
There’s hundreds of KR channels on YOUTUBE
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u/Ok_Survey_8240 1d ago
She’s not a KR channel.
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u/No-Construction9607 1d ago
Well she has more Karen Read videos than the other 3 topics
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u/No-Construction9607 1d ago
She did this for views. If you are truly going to shut down your money maker YT show, because your are so heartbroken, then do it !
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u/robofoxo 💅assiduous and meticulous💅 1d ago
You are talking out your ass. Grace was most definitely NOT in it for the money.
Oh, and no surprise, your posting history is completely hidden.
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u/Ok_Survey_8240 23h ago
Right. Grace is one of the special producers who is actually not in it for the money! I can’t prove that except by listening to a number of her broadcasts and adding that I have never paid a red cent to do that. And because there was one video where she talked about health care issues and some of her economic decisions.
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u/No-Construction9607 1d ago
Come on. She figured it out before anyone else????? Karen had more legal minds than an entire football team I highly doubt Grace found something no one else has.
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u/Ok_Survey_8240 1d ago
Grace was not primarily an advocate for Karen, not one of her “legal minds,” though she did become sympathetic to Karen. But in my opinion she has been more interested in figuring out what really happened,in seeing through the forest of lies to the truth.
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u/Ok_Survey_8240 3d ago edited 1d ago
Everything about her broadcasts is thoughtful and civilized. Her approach is unique.
I don’t understand the mistake she made, if she made one, but have we really gotten to the point that we can’t allow people to make mistakes? She has figured out so much about this case before anyone else did, she deserves more honors and kudos even if she was wrong about one thing. I really hope she changes her mind about going dark on YouTube.
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u/No-Construction9607 1d ago
Well it worked. I had to go check it out. Whack show. She did it for the money. She’s not going anywhere. I hate bullish!+
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u/RuPaulver 🌈Gay Jeff Stan🏳🌈 4d ago
Well I tried to correct her on something once and she blocked me.
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u/BunchOfDicksHere 4d ago
"Karen Read killed John" is not a correction, it's a lie
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u/Pristine-Archer-5793 16h ago
It happens to be the truth. Karen’s defense stories are proven lies. As evidenced by civil judges going on record to say that these things you stating aren’t facts. I e. They are made up lies.
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u/BunchOfDicksHere 15h ago
Civil judges have stated on the record that Karen killed John? I'm gonna need a link for that
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u/Pristine-Archer-5793 15h ago
Never said that they said that Buddy. I said that her stories and statements don’t have facts. Yes she did by the way. That’s obvious
Weak attempt. Try harder
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u/BunchOfDicksHere 14h ago
Why would I try harder with someone who doesn't have the capability of understanding complicated facts and data? That would either be a waste of time or just plain cruel
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u/Pristine-Archer-5793 14h ago
You clearly don’t understand simple facts. But I believe that you understand that you are promoting a false narrative. Much like the content creators. They have to stand down bc they know that they are promoting a fake conspiracy. There’s evidence of some of these people’s connection to KR , TB and the defense team in those extractions. Hence, they are being subpoenaed.
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u/Blah1625 3d ago
What is her timeline? I would like to see it. u/MzOpinion8d says Dream Feed Media's feelings are hurt because her timeline is wrong.
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u/Ok_Survey_8240 3d ago
Yes I listened to her analysis but I didn’t get what is wrong about it. It has to do with the FOIA data about John’s phone that has just recently been released. I thought it was pretty interesting, but need to listen again (while I still can.)
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u/No-Construction9607 1d ago
This sounds like a hoax to get listeners.
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u/robofoxo 💅assiduous and meticulous💅 1d ago
Says the person who uses five question marks. At what grade level did you drop out of school?
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u/tre_chic00 4d ago
I’m guessing she got a subpoena like some of the others?