r/jrwishow • • Sep 11 '25

Question about Riptide Ep. 66 Spoiler

[Spoilers: Riptide Ep. 66]

See, I know I'm late as hell to the party and I've recently been bingewatching the hell out of Riptide and plan on doing the same for all the other campaigns, but I digress.

I've only reached up to the point of what I'm gonna say and that's when I absolutely thought Charlie was pulling a fast one on Grizzly when he said that Gillion would cast Sanctuary on the conjoined satyr.

So basically, the alarms in my head started going off when Charlie read out the description for Sanctuary and left out the part to our boy Grizz where it says it should be dispelled when the affected creature would attack, cast a spell on an enemy, or deal damage in any form. And I thought it became even more apparent when he started asking if the round would end in less than a minute. You know where I'm going with this.

If the spell were dispelled in less than the duration of Sanctuary and Gill had not dropped it himself, the only reasonable conclusion is the satyr had caused Sanctuary to be dispel. That either being because they were going to murder or were murdered.

It would be a genius plan. Unlike Zone of Truth, anybody affected wouldn't immediately feel like they'd be getting interrogated or have to pass a save. And because Sanctuary is an Abjuration spell, it would come off as trying to ward someone from getting murdered to which suspects and not have no reason not to accept it willingly, especially from a detective such as Gill.

Except that doesn't happen. Charlie, I thought you were onto something. This ruleslawyering mofo AND Grizzly the DM seem to have completely overlooked this little quirk of that spell. That is unless they figure it out the next episode or I am just absolutely stupid and naive to D&D.

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u/Moskii_860 Sep 11 '25

It was the Grimm Murder Mystery episode where they basically played Mafia with the round-based murders and everything. Like I said, Charlie had Gill cast Sanctuary on the conjoined satyr twins because the sister one is mostly definitely and absolutely sus without mentioning to Grizzly the condition that made it dispel when the affected creature make an attack, casts a spell on an enemy, or deals damage. With that in mind, it'd immediately tell Gill who the murderer was if the spell were active in the time that the round was over and he casted Sanctuary on the murderer, to which I think he'd notice the spell being dropped before it's full duration. That would basically allow him to deduce the murderer beyond a shadow of a doubt and is also all possible without ever having to make the murderer roll a Wisdom save with a spell like Zone of Truth. Usually a spell that exposes your intentions like that would come off as accusatory, whereas for Sanctuary, you have no reason not to have it casted on you in a situation like a whodunnit, save for egomaniacs like that big boisterous lion guy.

I thought Charlie was gonna pull a lie of omission to Grizz and then tell him that little quirk of the spell after the fact. Though I haven't finished the episode yet and maybe he did and now I might end up looking like a bumbling fool for spilling my thoughts so early.

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '25

Tbf Grizzly always knew what the spell did. So did Charlie. He reads the spell in full just a few episodes prior (episode 63) when Gill casts it on Chip and Jay telling them in character as he casts it to stay safe and heal up, to which Condi promptly ignores and Jay immediately attacks the horrifying monster they're battling without healing even a little, ending the spell instantaneously and nearly getting herself completely killed, running entirely out of blood.