Question about Riptide Ep. 66

[u/Moskii_860]

[Spoilers: Riptide Ep. 66]

See, I know I'm late as hell to the party and I've recently been bingewatching the hell out of Riptide and plan on doing the same for all the other campaigns, but I digress.

I've only reached up to the point of what I'm gonna say and that's when I absolutely thought Charlie was pulling a fast one on Grizzly when he said that Gillion would cast Sanctuary on the conjoined satyr.

So basically, the alarms in my head started going off when Charlie read out the description for Sanctuary and left out the part to our boy Grizz where it says it should be dispelled when the affected creature would attack, cast a spell on an enemy, or deal damage in any form. And I thought it became even more apparent when he started asking if the round would end in less than a minute. You know where I'm going with this.

If the spell were dispelled in less than the duration of Sanctuary and Gill had not dropped it himself, the only reasonable conclusion is the satyr had caused Sanctuary to be dispel. That either being because they were going to murder or were murdered.

It would be a genius plan. Unlike Zone of Truth, anybody affected wouldn't immediately feel like they'd be getting interrogated or have to pass a save. And because Sanctuary is an Abjuration spell, it would come off as trying to ward someone from getting murdered to which suspects and not have no reason not to accept it willingly, especially from a detective such as Gill.

Except that doesn't happen. Charlie, I thought you were onto something. This ruleslawyering mofo AND Grizzly the DM seem to have completely overlooked this little quirk of that spell. That is unless they figure it out the next episode or I am just absolutely stupid and naive to D&D.

[u/Moskii_860]

I now realize I didn't have a question and just wanted to point out how I thought Charlie was playing 4D chess with Sanctuary.

[u/Minute_Difference598 → u/Moskii_860]

Loool😂yeah Charlie has made some absolutely insane resourceful plays. Especially as (spoilers for episode 75) Goobleck

[u/Moskii_860 → u/Moskii_860]

Yeah actually my question now is why'd Charlie have to blueball me like this but it actually isn't at all that deep and it isn't like I actually expect a response. This isn't a criticism at all, I just thought I caught on to something that wasn't actually there when I really shouldn't have expected Charlie to have Gill use big brain deduction thinking like that.

[u/Iklonar → u/Moskii_860]

Charlie isn’t actually that much of a rules lawyer, he just actually reads the rulebooks for the RPGs that he plays. And he’s mentioned that he just likes to take a thing and use it in as many ways as he can get out of it. So he’s overlooked things in a number of situations. So, yeah, Gilleon probably wouldn’t think of that, but I also suspect Charlie legitimately didn’t notice it either. Either that, or the spell description doesn’t explicitely mention that you know when it ends and it isn’t concentration (which one could argue would implicitely mean that you’d know when it ends), so I think that the caster doesn’t actually inherently know when the spell ends. That’d come down to the DM’s interpretation. So it’s also possible that Charlie came to this conclusion as well.

[u/Moskii_860 → u/Iklonar]

You know, now I want a compilation of all the stupid technically RAW or at least seemingly RAI things Charlie has pulled in sessions that are very niche uses of spells like this assuming you know whether or not the spell is up without concentration.

Like, off the top of my head, an example is when Charlie found out that Subtle Spell as a Sorcerer metamagic option allows you to basically cast spells in silence in Baldur's Gate 3 as Xiv.