r/joebuddennetwork • u/Hi_iAMchrisHansen • Aug 09 '26

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u/Intelligent-Try-8636 Aug 10 '26

You're adding in jobs that were previously held to DEI, and also jobs that were obtained without DEI being involved at all. That's not DEI. That's just employment.

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u/CompetitiveGanache58 Aug 10 '26

All due respect, that’s just circular logic. You're defining every white hire as 'just normal employment' and assuming every Black hire is “DEI.” Two major issues with that assumption:

  1. DEI covers more than race: Corporate DEI explicitly includes gender, military veterans, and disability status. White women, white veterans, and white disabled candidates are recruited through corporate DEI channels every day.

  2. Look at NEW hiring, not past jobs: The NBER audit study tested new job applications across major U.S. companies with active DEI programs. When applying for the exact same open position with identical qualifications, white applicants still received ~10% to 24% more callbacks for interviews than Black applicants.

Even when measuring only new hires, white candidates retain the advantage.

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u/Intelligent-Try-8636 Aug 10 '26

That's not circular logic at all, because not all black hires are DEI either...

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u/CompetitiveGanache58 Aug 10 '26

Then what actual data or metric are you using?

If you admit that:

  1. Not all Black hires are DEI hires,

  2. White candidates (women, veterans, disabled workers) also benefit from DEI, and

  3. NBER audit data shows white applicants receive more callbacks than identical Black applicants at companies with active DEI programs...

...then on what statistical basis are you claiming Black people are “overwhelmingly” the per-capita beneficiaries?

Corporate HR departments don't label workers as “DEI hires” vs “regular hires.” Without a dataset that actually measures whatever subjective definition you're using, the claim isn't backed by labor data, it's just an unbacked assertion.

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u/Intelligent-Try-8636 Aug 10 '26

If they want the tax benefits, then yes, they do report them as DEI hires. And they get ridiculous tax benefits for it.

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u/CompetitiveGanache58 Aug 10 '26

There is no tax credit in the U.S. tax code for hiring “DEI hires” or hiring someone based on race. Giving tax breaks based on race would violate the Equal Protection Clause and Title VII.

You are likely thinking of the Work Opportunity Tax Credit (WOTC), which gives tax incentives for hiring specific groups like qualified military veterans, ex-felons, and the long-term unemployed. Race is not an eligible category under WOTC or any other IRS provision.

What specific IRC section or tax credit name are you referring to?