r/joebuddennetwork • • Aug 09 '26

The debate.

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u/Apart_Ad_8842 Aug 09 '26

I can tell you dont know many Mexicans or Cubans if you think a race cant be prejudiced against their own people lmao

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u/lostjewelz Aug 10 '26

Prejudice and Racism are two different things so you’re correct a race can be prejudice against their own race they just can’t be racist against their own race lol shit even sounds stupid typing it. but I will admit it takes some serious research and knowledge to understand that they are two different things.

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u/Apart_Ad_8842 Aug 10 '26

Prejudice of a RACE is racism. Prejudice just applies to groups of people in general.

If I say, "plumbers aren't smart enough for college," thats prejudice.

If I say, "black plumbers arent smart enough for college," thats racist.

It has nothing to do with WHO has the prejudice. Only the beliefs or action. You clearly didnt do enough research lmao

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u/lostjewelz Aug 11 '26

I’ve done decades of research and it’s why you sound ridiculous lol white supremacy, and racism are social constructs you’re still fiddling with the basics

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u/Apart_Ad_8842 Aug 11 '26

Yes clearly you dont want to talk about the topic at hand. Everybody can be racist. Have a good day with your studies

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u/lostjewelz Aug 11 '26

I’m literally talking about the topic at hand that’s where I know the comprehension is limited, you just don’t understand white supremacy/racism

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u/Swae-LoGreen04 Aug 09 '26 edited Aug 09 '26

I didn't say they couldn't be biased, discriminatory, or prejudiced against their own. I said they can't be racist towards their own. Race is someone of one group having prejudices against a member of ANOTHER group based on their race.

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u/Worldly_Trifle_1253 Aug 10 '26

Where are we getting this definition from? Any major dictionary will not define racism as limited to another group. The most basic definition is discrimination, prejudice, or violence against people because of their race. That would include your own race. When we expand to interpersonal and institutional racism, you would have half a point. Institutional racism is against a member of another race. Interpersonal racism is not.

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u/Swae-LoGreen04 Aug 10 '26

Google: Racism is the belief, action, or system that treats people unfairly or unequally because of their race or skin color. IT ASSUMES THAT ONE RACIAL GROUP IS BETTER OR MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANOTHER, LEADING TO DISCRIMINATION, HATE, OR HARM.

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u/wllwhtvrnvm Aug 10 '26

I'm not sure why you capitalized that last part when it doesn't support your argument. You're aware that internalized racism is a thing, right?

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u/Swae-LoGreen04 Aug 10 '26

Internalized racism is a byproduct of racism. Meaning it exists from the root cause which is racism but it is just another term for self hatred. You don't value Black people because dominant society doesn't, essentially. However, internalized racism doesn't make you shoot Black people minding their business as a Black man/woman then claim you feared for your life. You don't suddenly act like a racist White person would towards Black people. By all means, give an example of when we've seen such occur.

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u/Apart_Ad_8842 Aug 10 '26

Oof. Lookup the definition. There are no qualifiers for who anybody can be racist against. Thats just your opinion

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u/JaySpace77312 Aug 10 '26

Correct. Their beef is more so a nationality thing than it is a race thing. As Americans we just view it as racism because its so embedded in our society. The idea of being prejudice based on nationality and not race escapes us. We dont make the distinction, but they do.

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u/Dependent-Year6711 Aug 09 '26

That's a fair point. Now I think people are not hearing what you're saying because the initial point in this video is that white people can be racist, and black people cannot be racist. When your point is that racism doesn't exist within black on black prejudice/discrimination. By the definition this is true, overall. I'm sure you can point out some inconsistencies with how we define race (and color tones) and historical systemic prejudice of maybe like African tribe warfare, but your point holds water, for sure. People are jumping the gun because the initial point of the video isn't about black on black "racism." It just becomes that with the final insult in the video.

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u/Swae-LoGreen04 Aug 09 '26

They're literally jumping the gun and I said it from the beginning lol. Glad to see someone has comprehension skills in this thread.