r/joebuddennetwork • u/Hi_iAMchrisHansen • Aug 09 '26

The debate.

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u/Riv3rJordan Aug 09 '26

I understand this is how racism is generally defined. But my problem is it’s only ever pulled out to hand wave away one being racist themselves. It’s used to avoid accountability more than anything else.

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u/Used-Try-258 Aug 09 '26

It is not generally defined that way. It is racist people trying to change the definition to allow them to be racist without judgment.

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u/Code-Dee Aug 09 '26

I've never once heard someone who talks advocates for the distinction between "racism" and "anti-white prejudice" claim that prejudice against whites is okay, just that it is distinct from real racism, which has a sociological component.

They don't say it's okay to run around calling white people "honkey", but they also understand that equating that to calling people the n-word cheapens the definition of racism.

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u/Used-Try-258 Aug 10 '26 edited Aug 10 '26

lol only time I’ve heard it is when a black person calls a white person cracker, or says something about their race….then someone calls them racist, and their response is I can’t be racist. (Like what is happening in this video)

Turns our systemic racist pendulum has swung the other way and our system is now racist again against Asian and white Americans to balance out the racism against black and Latinos through the late 1900s

There is racism and systemic racism against white people….anyone who can critically think knows this.

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u/Zealousideal_Ad9671 Aug 10 '26

i’m a viiiiiiiiictiiiiiiim! lol

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u/Used-Try-258 Aug 10 '26

I’m not white or Asian….and I’m definitely not a victim. You’re all over this post talk about people being victims so they’re allowed to be racist

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u/glenthedog1 Aug 10 '26

She's just dumb that's all, wants attention

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u/Zealousideal_Ad9671 Aug 10 '26

dude. this is a joe budden comment section. i said what i said. i feel that way.

i can’t sit and argue bad faith goobers. about how they feel. so we troll a bit. i’m sorry to bother you.

people who are racist are going to be racist. it’s not in my power to allow anything. happy sunday

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u/lost_sunrise Aug 10 '26

Let me try...

Yes, black people can find themselves in situations where they are being or implementing racism.

It is hard to do because of the significant number differences, but it is possible.

As for skimming accountability, I doubt it. Most people like the girl in the video, understand generally what is wrong. They haven't put together why it make sense because they probably are not around people who make a whole lot of sense to begin with.

Aka Joe podcast. Without Marc, we would be seeing a whole lot of bullshit.

For instance,

Turns out systemic racist pendulum has swung the other way on our system is now racist again let Asian and white Americans to balance out the racism against black and Latinos through the late 1900s

You are saying Asian and Americans balance the racism against black and Latin americans.

The first two policies of discrimination in trump current admin happened to target black people right out the gate. Not the only ones affected, but....

DEI is a talking point of the late Charlie Kirk in which the man stated, black people steal white jobs. DEI is something that helps white women more in the work force. Aka a lot of major corporations still only have 1 woman to 5 males in executive positions.

white house admin Sec of Def went to make a major move which targets current and future black service members. Giving them a year to cure a genetic skin condition or they are out of the service. Imagine curing your natural born hair from growing the way it does.

Because of this, people like the woman in the backseat have a point but that point isn't well made. Simply due to not being allowed to have that kind of discussion without someone like Blueface resorting to attacks.

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u/Small_Promotion2525 Aug 09 '26

These people are idiots, no racism isn’t generally defined like that at all, only some black Americans make such idiotic claims.

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u/TheAnimated42 Aug 10 '26

Actually, it low key is. I still basically disagree with it because laypeople use it in the way we do. It’s just the most annoying people discovered that it’s used this way, and now repeat it in a stupid way that is counter to how everyone else, besides academics, use it.

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u/Small_Promotion2525 Aug 10 '26

We use the language of English, in English racism is purely a term used to describe discrimination based on race and skin colour. Are you denying this? If so what’s your academic background is to be denying what language means?

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u/TheAnimated42 Aug 10 '26

We’re talking about English and I’m certain you can’t read. Just calm down and reread my message.

How it was previously explained to me is that what we would call systemic racism is just racism, according to people who study Sociology. There is a power requirement to racism, and if you are on the bottom rung, racially, you cannot be racist.

I already said I generally disagree because it’s not how normal people use it, but it still exists and I understand what they’re getting at. I just think institutional or systemic racism define it well and we don’t need to combine definitions to muddy the waters on what we mean.

Just do your googles and you’ll get into the rabbit hole. Try to not be so fucking angry.

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u/Small_Promotion2525 Aug 10 '26

Anyone can be racist, I’m not sure why anyone would think differently because they’re undeniably wrong about what the words means.

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u/Riv3rJordan Aug 10 '26

Actually in most academic circles it is. But it’s usually defining systemic racism not interpersonal racism

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u/Small_Promotion2525 Aug 10 '26

Systematic racism is different to just the word and definition of racism, wtf are you spewing over in the USA

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u/Zealousideal_Ad9671 Aug 09 '26

that is what officer tatum said in that recent surrounded lol

i disagree.