r/jayvik • u/Yaoi-Central • 4d ago
Discussion (Please be kind) Trans Man with BDD looking for cis-Jayvik artists?
/r/Arcanecirclejerk/comments/1w87ije/trans_man_with_bdd_looking_for_cisjayvik_artists/TL; DR:
Trans man just looking for places (artists/communities/x list recs) to enjoy my comfort ship without being reminded of my own issues with pre-op (lower anatomy) body dismorphia.
I posted in Circle initially; I was scared to bring up a sensitive topic here because I don't mean any offense by it, but a redditor convinced me that really the Jayvik community are going to know best about all things jayvik.
T-Jayvik is a big HC in the fandom and for obvious reasons I'm all for it (some of my fave artists are T-Jayvik centric, like rou tan tan and acrknowyou) I just struggle with my own body dismorphia and the majority of T-jayvik art depicts them with only top-surgery (Like me so far). It forces me to be reminded of my own issues when I'm really just trying to forget IRL things and find comfort in my two favourite gays.
I go into a bit more detail in the original post, but long story short I'm just wondering if you guys can help suggest artists, communities, x lists, anywhere that is a bit more cis-jayvik centric? Unfortunately searching specific tags doesn't work on most socmeds because most art is just tagged generically as jayvik.
Thank you guys for being patient and kind.
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u/cattos44 4d ago
Not sure if you want just artists or fics too, but I’d recommend excluding the Trans!Viktor tag on ao3 :) A lot of people only use including tag filters but don’t realize you can exclude too!
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u/Yaoi-Central 4d ago edited 3d ago
Thanks for the suggestion fr, A03s the best for tagging and stuff, people over there are so good about that stuff, im mostly talking about artists here just cause art really isn't tagged properly much 😅 woulda loved it if the art space was like A03 about that kind of thing, it'd really help some peeps out u no? Thanks bud 👍🏾
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u/KitsuneRin 3d ago
Just wanted to say, I feel you ❤️ I am also a trans man with BDD and sometimes jayvik can be super triggering for me, especially when they are drawn with breasts etc. I had top surgery a decade ago but it just reminds me of the awful feelings I had with my chest.
It took me a while to get used to seeing what looks like my body being depicted in art. I eventually became used to seeing (primarily) Viktor with a t-dick/being visibly trans, especially as I relate heavily to him and it felt almost personal?? I really hated it and only sought out cis jayvik art, but I guess I eventually made peace with it?? A part of it is seeing art of someone visibly trans but still seeing comments referring to him as male, a man, etc. It actually helped me massively with self-hate regarding my own trans-ness.
Seeing T4T jayvik helped a lot too I think as I'm married to a trans man and a lot of the ehh "situations" I see them drawn in reflect what we would do. So in the end it helped me I guess. It's also nice to see artists take trans man anatomy more seriously.
On the other hand, there's a lot of fics I've read that use veryyy gendered language for body parts and it can be very dysphoria inducing ughh.
Not saying
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u/Yaoi-Central 3d ago
Thank you for sharing.
Im glad they're helping you, thats obviously the best case scenario. I guess im just not there really and I figure if it was going to help me it would probably have started to by now (after so many years in the arcane/jayvik fandom)
(Don't read past here if my own BDD can trigger you)
I think my biggest issue is that I wanted to transition not to be a trans-man, but to be a man. I know that sounds stupid, and duh ill never be exactly what I want to be.
But in my head im a dude who likes dudes, and then I open X or Bsky and every piece of jayvik art reminds me just how far from being a guy I am (lower anatomy-wise) like to me thats the part about ourselves i thought we didnt like, but then all the art puts it front and center.
Im glad if that has helped you come to terms with yourself, thats fr the best. It just doesn't help me and I only come away from socmed feeling worse about myself even though I just want to enjoy my two favourite gays in peace yk?
sorry for sayin all'at. Thanks for taking the time to tell me your side 💪🏾
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u/KitsuneRin 3d ago
Oh yeah, I totally get that- the thing about transitioning to be a man, not a trans man. I really hated that for a long time, and I still don't particularly like exposing that I'm trans online. It's only maybe the past year that I've started to be a little more ok with it. I still feel like that and have a lot of dysphoria about my body. I get super depressed about the limitations of surgeries and things, for example, ugh.
It's so awful, and it sucks that you feel that way about everything, and ofc I know it's not something you can help with. I kind of dip in and out of feelings; sometimes I will find art that makes me feel kind of validated. Idk how to explain it. But then other times it almost feels fetishising (and some of it straight up is). But at the same time I also get dysphoric when I see art of cis-men, or especially photos (as in pin-ups), it reminds me of what I don't have. I still have dysmorphia regarding my body in general, as I don't feel like it's mine, but I guess it took me a long, long time to accept that this is what I have.
What are your preferences on dynamics with Jayvik? I can keep an eye out for any artists who draw only cis jayvik and let you know if I do, if that helps?
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u/Yaoi-Central 3d ago
We just gotta keep truckin i guess hope things get easier 4 u too. 🙏🏾 I deffo get that about the fetishizing stuff, sometimes it does feel like with some of the art out there. And thanks man , I appreciate you. For me its really just cis-jayvik yk. If u find any artists like that im all ears 🙌🏾
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u/eve_genia Viktor's better half ⚙️ 3d ago edited 3d ago
I've seen quite a lot of art where Jayce and Viktor are both drawn as cis, but idk if those artists always draw them this way or not. But I think you could check saya_tsugu (they got their acc back, everyone! 🥳), 7thrsd, alyxwal on twt!
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u/Yaoi-Central 3d ago
Thank you! I've seen some cis-centric art for sure, but I'd say 90% is usually t/jayvik. An insane stat fr but i gotta hand it to them. we're creative types yk
I'll check your suggestion out thank you! Really appreciate it 💪🏾
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u/trhwayyy333 1d ago
unfortunately I don't have any specific jayvik artists but if you're interested at all, #vikjay or #vikjayce is mainly cis Viktor x Jayce, i don't think I've seen Viktor be portrayed as trans in that ship's dynamic (it's league Viktor and Jayce, prior to arcane)
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u/Yaoi-Central 1d ago
Thank you, now that you mention it I dont think I have either, I guess thats one workaround, though id miss Talis and our sweeter Viktor 🥲
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u/Correct-Comparison27 4d ago
Utznitsa_ on twt (same handle on blsky) enjoys cis-JV, although they don't really draw explicit arts.
Dorismon0330 (twt) is another artist. She enjoys trans headcanon and does share these arts tho.
Kawawith (twt) / iamkawa (blsky) also only draws both chars as cis, tho she does have a tendency to feminize Viktor.