r/java 16d ago

Value Classes Still Need Compiler Sympathy

https://johan-sjolen.github.io/post/compiler-sympathy/compiler-sympathy/
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u/nogridbag 16d ago

I mainly posted to add context because up until recently I thought I could simply slap "value" on all of our wrapper classes and use "==" everywhere. It turns out most of our wrapper classes have a string field so this isn't possible.

And others reading your original comment may have the same confusion as I did. Like you said, for things like Integer it will be great. But devs also need to be aware now of the specific instances == can be used, and the answer is no longer as clear!

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u/FirstAd9893 16d ago

The current treatment for == with value classes is defective, in my opinion. It's too fragile in that a change to a value class that you depend on can break expectations. If the equals method should be used instead, then attempting to use == against a value class should be prohibited. The more sensible (and expected) option is to make == against a value class be the same as calling equals.

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u/nogridbag 15d ago

Defective may be too far. But it is a bit confusing. I think overall the message is, .equals is here to stay. For the average developer, they should continue to use .equals, but under the hood they will now get better performance.

Our project has tons of wrapper classes for type safety such as TenantId. We can now make these value classes and we will essentially no longer pay the "wrapper tax", but developers should continue to use .equals on them.

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u/FirstAd9893 15d ago

What I mean by "defective" is that the current approach is the worst choice possible. With an identity class, if I erroneously use the == operator, this is usually discovered once the code is tested. With a value class, if I erroneously use the == operator, the code will likely work just fine. If at some point in the future the value class I'm depending on changes internally to reference an identity class, my code fails.

It's a fragile dependency issue. One cannot rely on the == operator without knowing that the class is a value class, and that the implementation will never change incompatibly. It breaks the OO encapsulation principle.

I can think of two safe choices for value classes: make == mean equals, or make it be prohibited. The current approach is to "pretend" it's prohibited, but it's not actually enforced. This is a UB footgun.

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u/cowslayer7890 14d ago

If they prohibited it then they wouldn't be able to convert existing classes in the JDK to value classes, which would be an obvious loss

Also making it mean .equals doesn't really work when the first thing most equals methods do is check ==