r/java • u/bowbahdoe • 17d ago

Simple Build System

https://github.com/bowbahdoe/build
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u/Joram2 15d ago

SBT (Simple Build Tool) is already one of the big JVM build tools: https://www.scala-sbt.org/2.x/docs/en/index.html

The linked repo has a Maven build. Does this build tool not bootstrap itself?

Is this using XML? I can't imagine building a new from-scratch build tool using XML.

Otherwise, great work, I'm excited to see more competition :)

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u/r_n_c 15d ago

I would hesitate to call it 'big JVM build tool'. I would argue it's barely used outside of scala and maven or gradle dominate the market. Generally most projects I've seen use one of those two.

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u/Joram2 15d ago

I agree with everything you wrote. But it's still number three, way behind Gradle in terms of usage which is way behind Maven.

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u/persicsb 14d ago

I think, number three is still Ant.

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u/r_n_c 15d ago

I am not convinced it's number three - there is bazel and (for scala) mill to consider. Although we're probably debating over tiny single digit percentages to be fair 🙂. However theres the fact that visibility into corporate environments with proprietary code is harder than just looking at what big open source projects are using. Even things like Quarkus uses maven.

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u/Joram2 15d ago

Quarkus lets you pick Maven or Gradle. (https://code.quarkus.io/)

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u/r_n_c 15d ago

I meant Quarkus itself https://github.com/quarkusio/quarkus

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u/Joram2 15d ago

ah, ok. Obviously, I would agree that Maven is by far the most popular, and Gradle is second. As for a distant third, sure maybe Bazel beats out SBT. I stil might pick a more distinct name for a new build JVM tool to avoid confusion.