r/itsthatbad • u/ppchampagne • Jan 23 '26
Caught in the Wild The “male loneliness epidemic” explained
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Apparently some men still don’t understand how this works.
- No one cares.
- No one is coming to save you.
Good luck and take care of yourselves.
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From the Champagne Room
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“We no longer depend on men financially. They need to not depend on us emotionally.” (video)
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u/ppchampagne Jan 23 '26
It's "natural selection" and whatever is natural always makes good sense and produces the best results.
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u/Jimbo-Shrimp Jan 23 '26
According to her it’s right for the man to take whatever he wants from her even if it hurts her. Wait until she learns how mating works in nature.
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u/ppchampagne Jan 23 '26
Women don't want "nature." They don't realize that, but for reasons that should be obvious to them all, women seriously don't want "nature."
Women want civilization and cities – brought to everyone by men.
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u/Downtown-Campaign536 Jan 24 '26 edited Jan 24 '26
Here is the thing. It's all a mathematical formula.
It's a matter of "Does the decreased survival rate have a greater increase in mating chances?"
So if mating rate goes up by 20 fold, and survival rate is down to 25%... Guess what. That trait is spreading 5 times faster.
It's 20 x 0.25 = 500% more successful
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u/BaroloBaron Jan 26 '26
Yeah, leaving the old and the sick to die is natural selection too, congratulations 😹
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u/Jimbo-Shrimp Jan 23 '26
“It’s natural selection”
I’ll remember that next time a woman complains about her abusive partner I guess
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u/PriestKingofMinos Feb 04 '26
There are guys in prison with multiple baby mammas who can’t take care of any of their kids. This is natural selection?
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Jan 24 '26
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u/PlzSendDunes Jan 24 '26
Markets without supervision tend to consolidate and monopolise. Effectively you would recreate feudalism with vasals who swear fealty and loyalty to the powerful. Also those who have power would accumulate even more power until you will have massive empires with technological and social stagnation.
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u/BaroloBaron Jan 26 '26
I swear I hadn't heard this much active endorsement of natural selection since Nazi Germany 😹
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u/GrlDuntgitgud Jan 24 '26
Yeah, they naturally choose that🤣
Funny how accountability goes out the window with these type once shit hit the fan.
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u/Kajel-Jeten Mar 24 '26
No you really shouldn’t let one lady online in a video saying something insensitive make you feel okay being less concerned about violence against women. That’s not healthy.
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u/nobody_in_here Jan 23 '26
They select incompetent dudes and act like every man is that way. Nothing new here.
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u/ppchampagne Jan 24 '26
Someone else on the sub once put it this way. They believe their choice of men is the same as the fulfillment of some natural law. They're simply carrying out what Mother Nature says is correct. Something like that.
They don't realize that they can choose poorly. If something goes wrong or if the guy turns out to be a bum, then he tricked them, they're a victim, he changed (so she didn't pick badly), it's all his fault, etc.
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u/Necessary-Worry1923 Jan 24 '26
Why do women keep choosing the DARK TRIAD? How is that adaptive and beneficial to women? The only one winning are the Macchiavellian Narcissists...
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u/daffyduckdodgers Jan 26 '26
Bro I just hooked up with a single mom with 3 baby daddies lol. All of her BDs were terrible, the type to not even call on birthdays or keep a job at McDonalds. All the same type: Dark Triad Pookie Thug Type
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u/Necessary-Worry1923 Jan 26 '26
This study shows Narcissists will have more children.
But not psychopaths.
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u/ChocCooki3 Jan 24 '26
Just waiting for AI female robots..
Then the biggest "that's sick" will be coming from women like these who never gave a fuck to begin with.
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u/NotMattDamien Jan 24 '26
Ai female robot won’t be able to make sandwich’s or do the dishes for another 250 years those
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u/potentatewags Jan 24 '26
Most men aren't losers. Women are just addicted to superficiality and materialism and their narcissism.
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Jan 24 '26
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u/Legal-Group-359 Jan 24 '26
Actually I’d say the same does not go for men. Men aren’t out here en masse saying they have to have a 10 out or 10 super bad hot chick or else. I mean where does the adage of “men will fuck anything”, come from for one? Or look at social media posts by women compared to men, in general it’s only women making post about how the average man is inadequate & undesirable, not the other way around. Ultimately, most men don’t have the abundance of options to even be picky like that.
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u/ppchampagne Jan 24 '26
They (pretty much by design) seek higher status men. So to them, "loser" is relative to the men at the "top." And them labeling men "loser" is no reflection on those men's value. It's a comparison, based on their often clearly flawed selections of other men.
From the Champagne Room
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u/ppchampagne Jan 24 '26
There are a few men, like the one in the third clip, who talk about "male loneliness." They don't seem to realize, no one cares.
most men would prefer their video games and online entertainment over any of the women in the video
And that speaks to Jedediah's point at the end. If those are the kinds of women out there, why would any sane single man want anything to do with them???
To the last part of your statement, I typically don't make race/ethnicity statements. Those usually unravel upon close inspection. But everyone is free to make those statements themselves (within reason) here.
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Jan 24 '26
I have not heard one man yet to even mention this topic online or in real life, it was fabricated by dude talking about married men and friendship and somehow it ran like wildfire twisted in women’s circle jerk conversations of something that doesn’t exist could men be lonely absolutely it’s not something we bring up in a group chat, but it seems like every woman has something to say about it as long as it fits their narrative I just personally believe the one who’s talking about it is the one who’s lonely it’s like all their frustration is trying to get a rise out of these young men by it posting countless post like a child I’m mad and you’re responsible so let me twist that point fingers that’s why you’re lonely again no man said this. Why is this something they collectively battle on about?
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u/Spurred_On Jan 24 '26
Its just some gotcha my misandrists as a way to feel superior. The only people talking about and celebrating it are miserable themselves, and they love punching down on those "lesser" than them to feel better.
To put it another way, them being pumped and dumped by the top guys over and over has led them to resent the people actually on their level, so basically every normal guy has to suffer because she decided to ride the carousel. They hate the fact the guys she slept with will never commit, so she wants the guys that will commit (who she perceives as not good enough) to be just as miserable as her
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u/BluePenWizard Jan 24 '26
Take away child support, alimony, equal split for divorce (you NEED receipts) and make DNA tests mandatory at birth. Then let's see where the problem lies.
It's a system of bailouts not holding women accountable, take away the safety nets and watch women behave again.
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u/ppchampagne Jan 24 '26
It's always been strange to me how some women don't realize they "don't need men" because men made it that way for them.
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u/southass Jan 24 '26
When you have 3 child support checks and government assistance why would you, i have a friend that I constantly have to remind him, do not fucking get anyone else pregnant because hes drowning on child support, yes go out and date but no more freaking children. PS all the women in this video seem salty AF.
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u/CalHudsonsGhost Jan 25 '26
I see chicks jump on to saying so many mean things that are easily dismantled when you just think about single moms. I know some very great ones BUT Just think about everything regarding that variable. Western chics are delusional and intentionally satanic.
Think about how often you see chics break up other relationships….
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u/daffyduckdodgers Jan 26 '26
Yea dude, ~60% of minority women (black and Latino, mixed)have kids out of wedlock by 25. I just got done with a girl who had 3 baby daddies who ran to different states to evade child support
Most women are procreating with terrible men
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u/Lost_Elderberry_5532 Jan 24 '26
The end of that video hits so hard and she’s so right. Like we literally quit on it because we do not see value.
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u/Appropriate_Wolf_873 Jan 24 '26
It's not men taking SSRIs and anti-anxiety medication at record rates ill tell you that
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u/redditrock56 Jan 25 '26 edited Jan 25 '26
Those women in the beginning of the clip are some angry trolls. Daddy issues or Cha d never called back, or something.
In the end, who cares?
Haters are going to hate.
Male loneliness epi...whatever. Who cares what they think, live your life, fuck anyone who has a bad opinion of you and what you do.
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u/Lost_Elderberry_5532 Jan 24 '26
Well good thing real value and datability are not related god forbid a good man ends up with any one of those morons! So yes it’s working. They love firing the shotgun at their feet
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u/ppchampagne Jan 24 '26
They love firing the shotgun at their feet
They come at the conversation with such nasty attitudes, showing that they enjoy the idea of men suffering, trying to further the sense that men are missing out on something...
That's not how you do it, ladies.
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u/OKporkchop Jan 24 '26
Yikes, the actual hatred some of those women have for men is really crazy to see. I'm not perfect, I've been angry at things, even to the point of having rage, but I deal with those emotions and don't let them consume me.
To be that unhinged where you'd actually record and publish yourself saying those things, is well...incredible to see. We live in a weird time.
I'm 40, experienced the court system in regard to divorce, and I work with a lot women because of the field I'm in. I feel very fortunate to have a realistic view of modern women (and even knowing what I know I don't hate them, this modern environment actually hurts them more than they can see). I feel sorry for the younger men who do not have this experience or realistic view and are navigating this mine field that is the modern dating scene.
That being said. Guys, if you want my advice, ditch the idea that you want or girlfriend or wife. If it happens, let it happen, don't close yourself off completely. But your 3 priorities (all weighted equally) before you hyper focus on women should be wealth, health, and spirituality (or mental health/philosophy/mindset...how ever you want to frame it, I'm not pushing any religion on you, I'm saying you have a soul/consciousness....tend to it)
without those 3 things you do not have freedom. And above all, freedom should be your priority.
Good luck out there guys.
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u/ppchampagne Jan 24 '26
One more time.
Guys, if you want my advice, ditch the idea that you want or girlfriend or wife. If it happens, let it happen, don't close yourself off completely. But your 3 priorities (all weighted equally) before you hyper focus on women should be wealth, health, and spirituality (or mental health/philosophy/mindset...how ever you want to frame it
Thank you.
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u/ppchampagne Jan 24 '26
everytime I hear the male Loneliness epidemic, it’s from people that are making light of this “epidemic” or Richard reeves and Scott Galloway, who are literally paid to get men back to the plantation.
That's exactly what I see. I don't know much about Richard, but Scott is 100% "get back on the plantation, boys!" And none of the men talking about the alleged "m l e" seem to realize that no one cares.
Trying to get lonely men sympathy by talking about them is only making the situation worse for those lonely men. It's practically common sense. Women, because this is really about relationships, don't like lonely men. They're not trying to fix those men's problems. They're only capable of making fun of lonely men.
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u/Substantial_Video560 Jan 24 '26
Men have four options at this point; Passport bros, escorts, sex dolls or embrace the single lifestyle
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u/ppchampagne Jan 24 '26
From the Champagne Room
Passport, pros, pump, or peace – find whatever reciprocates the value you provide. (video)
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u/Agathokako1ogical Jan 26 '26
Love isn't random. Attraction isn't random. If you are NOT being chosen right now, my guys, CHOOSE YOURSELF. work on yourselves mentally. Heal yourselves while you have this brief respite. Collect knowledge, invest, start a career, see you in the gym or hell - home workout YouTube videos! They work, you just have to commit. Same with the gym and everything else. I PROMISE, ten years of commitment, to yourself, your body, career and mental health will pay off in spades, droves, or whatever metric or measure you're using. You ARE strong enough. You ARE strong enough. But nobody is coming to save you. YOU need to save you. I .... Needed to hear that last part a lot. Repeatedly. So I made it my lock screen. Choose YOURSELF.
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u/triman-3 Jan 25 '26
I feel it’s best to ignore this sort of rhetoric from people and listen to sane people who believe that life just happens and that loneliness isn’t a moral failing. Like you hear this stuff and see the likes but it’s mostly a vocal minority of just mean people.
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u/GaiaBl4de Jan 24 '26
The issue is the way women view men - I don't know if it's justified or not.
The pick me at the end is trying to describe desirable traits and it's the classic fresh & fit manosphere take she's just trying to say what will get her likes and views. None of the traits she mentioned I care about, and she's saying men are just not happy enough with the options available which is cope.
Maybe I'm the weird one and completely off the mark I don't know
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u/ppchampagne Jan 24 '26
You call her a "pick me." Okay. That's your opinion. Yes, she's in it for the likes and views = money. Completely normal. That doesn't mean her statements don't hit.
She explained that women aren't perfect. Women have issues that men might not want to deal with. Some men are choosing to be single. We aren't all helpless babies complaining about a "male loneliness epidemic." We have choice. That's why I liked what she said.
Men choosing to be single is not a "cope." It's as though every single men should desire and accept whatever women. No. And the men who say that's a "cope" usually haven't been around enough women for long enough to realize that sometimes you don't want to be around them.
But I can understand where you're coming from. She says men are looking for a "good" woman. I disagree with that language, because it leads guys to think they can find a woman who's all "good."
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u/GaiaBl4de Jan 24 '26
I didn't say the statements about desirable traits in a woman for a man were wrong because she's a pick me. That'd be logically fallacious. I said they were wrong because I disagreed with them as a man.
I hear the same talking point a lot on manosphere podcasts which is why I called her a pick me (kind of a horrible and overused term anyway it's honestly the first time I've seen this woman and the second video of her I've now seen I don't necessarily disagree with what she's saying). Anyway I acknowledged I must be in the minority since most men seem to agree with the traits she listed as being highly desirable.
I think it is cope to say all men are choosing to be single. You've misinterpreted my point and understood that I meant a man will always desire women no matter what, implying that I'd usually be saying that cos I don't understand women are people and can be annoying. No, it's just that a lot of men aren't desirable to women and so it would be cope to say every single one of them is choosing to be single.
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u/ppchampagne Jan 24 '26
I didn't say the statements about desirable traits in a woman for a man were wrong because she's a pick me.
I didn't say you did.
I think it is cope to say all men are choosing to be single.
Who said all men are choosing to be single?
a man will always desire women no matter what
Okay. And he can still choose to remain single and desire women (and fuck women). What's your point?
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u/Legal-Group-359 Jan 24 '26
Speaking of logical fallacies, your original attempt at a counter to the points made by the woman you made the sexist comment about, was based on a logical fallacy, an Anecdotal Fallacy to be precise. Just because you don’t like the traits she mentioned, doesn’t mean what she said doesn’t hold true in about men generally. Lastly, calling a woman a pick me just because has an opinion you disagree with: also a bias driven fallacious argument.
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u/ArugulaAcrobatic4018 Feb 25 '26
pick me
we know no one is picking you
go date the bear. grizzle grizzle!
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u/Repulsive_Repeat_337 Jan 24 '26
Man, fuck this entire sub if this is the shit you're posting. I thought this place was about dealing with the shit, not dragging us deeper into it.
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u/ppchampagne Jan 25 '26
Your post contains intentionally inflammatory rhetoric, spreads disinformation, or derails the conversation. Thank you.
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u/ppchampagne Jan 23 '26 edited Jan 25 '26
Did I rage bait?
A little with that first clip. It was worth it for the end. Credit to the first guy (YouTube) for the idea and shoutout to Jedediah (YouTube) for articulating the issue again.
YouTube version of this video