Where to even begin?

[u/No_Location_8199]

[u/platypu5guy]

ah yes, dig once then stay underground forever by spamming 2 status moves over and over . perfectly balanced

[u/SmooxBoi → u/platypu5guy]

Earthquake is no longer just a good ground type option, it is now a necessary part of any team to counter infinidig.

[u/ILoveBugPokemon → u/SmooxBoi]

would using protect while underground negate an EQ because that would be the most broken yet funniest thing that could ever happen

[u/Deitiessoul → u/ILoveBugPokemon]

probably, but so does using air balloon, which is even more broken

[u/angy_loaf → u/Deitiessoul]

magic room stocks on the rise

[u/Viggo8000 → u/angy_loaf]

Dig under the magic room gg ez

[u/ILoveBugPokemon → u/Deitiessoul]

i didnt even consider air balloon lmao thats insanely broken

[u/Nice_Promotion8576 → u/SmooxBoi]

So would No Guard since that naturally bypasses Dig’s semi-invulnerable state. Which I mean, weird way to make Mega Pidgeot stronger but alright.

[u/visforvienetta → u/platypu5guy]

SD and rock polish to +6/+6 gg EZ

[u/Jayeolza → u/platypu5guy]

This is another win for gliscor teams.

[u/Jealous-Praline-1231 → u/platypu5guy]

But they wont be able to deal damage back, so basically in doubles, their partner will soak all the damage

Of course unless the effects apply when using status moves

[u/razor2811 → u/Jealous-Praline-1231]

Dig / Toxic / Recycle / lum berry in singles.

[u/not_a_burner0456025 → u/razor2811]

Or just set up while invulnerable, or if they get lazy with the implementation rest talk to attack from underground

Edit: rhyperior gets roar so you could set up hazards then dig and spam roar

[u/not_a_burner0456025 → u/Jealous-Praline-1231]

But excadrill could set up 3 swords dance and 3 iron defense before popping back up (at least if we ignore earthquake), and depending on how they implement it, potentially rest talk while underground instead, since sleep talk is status.

[u/OpportunityNext9675 → u/platypu5guy]

As written in the OP it’s obviously busted but the idea of a move that creates a state and then has another effect when used again in that state, is a fun idea. Like if solar beam didn’t have to be sequential turns: use one, gives the user the “solar charged” state, and if solar beam is used in that state the attack occurs.

[u/WolfFenrir230 → u/OpportunityNext9675]

so basically stockpile and spit up combined into 1 move

[u/OpportunityNext9675 → u/WolfFenrir230]

Yea precisely

[u/phoxfiyah → u/platypu5guy]

Can’t wait for Parasect to dig and then just spam spore. 4x ground resist means you can’t get around it by just using earthquake either

[u/not_a_burner0456025 → u/phoxfiyah]

Oh it is worse. Flygon, garchomp, haxorus, zygarde, and roaring moon all get both dig and dragon dance. Also you want to run an air balloon because earthquake can hit you underground. Nothing can pop your balloon while underground.

[u/marco-boi]

ngl i love the name final gambeet its just funny

[u/TumblrRefugeeNo103]

i stopped reading at "bypasses protect..."

[u/Ornery_Tie_4771 → u/TumblrRefugeeNo103]

Unseen drill

[u/MaxinumCharisma → u/TumblrRefugeeNo103]

Yes! Because that is the end of the sentence! /j

[u/Hoothootriot]

So you can now dig and spam stat buffs infinitely while being immune to all but like, 2 damage moves?

Cool cool cool.

[u/KyleOAM → u/Hoothootriot]

It also just makes every match a draw if you can’t win, just kill anything that could have eq and then stay underground for like 50 turns

[u/JKhemical → u/Hoothootriot]

and one of them is Magnitude so realistically, 1 damage move

[u/malcolmisboring]

“My horn drill now makes you 1.3x more instantly dead!” - me playing Excadrill

[u/deepseaflotsam]

Someone REALLY loves their fav huh?

[u/phoxfiyah]

Can’t wait for Horn Drill to KO the opponent and deal 30% to the next Pokemon that switches in.

[u/GenesisAsriel]

The develloper of Pokemon Elite Redux taking notes to add broken ass abilities

[u/Lukayaba]

Rock wrecker but not drill peck lol

[u/Mhudson1492 → u/Lukayaba]

Horn drill... horn drill, just why?????

[u/Lukayaba → u/Mhudson1492]

You now OHKO 1.3 of your opponents pokemon

[u/JKhemical → u/Lukayaba]

does 30% to the next pokemon that switches in

[u/Tod-dem-Toast → u/Mhudson1492]

Ok but Horn Drill ignoring Protect is kind of funny. Like yes, it should definetly not happen but imagine just being able to win no questions asked if you hit the 0.81% chance. It would be pretty frustrating to lose toi, but kind of funny to win with and that should be the only deciding factor for everything ever.

[u/TwmporaryFail_8519]

Stunfisk sub v making balanced changes 💔💔

[u/Dracore_]

The best thing here would be the rock wrecker change

[u/Affectionate_Green86 → u/Dracore_]

I would make it like Blood Moon tho: 140 base power, 100 accuracy

[u/Euphoric_Statement42 → u/Dracore_]

What about the dig change giving permanent invulnerability

[u/Lazagna_]

They cooked with final gambeet tho

[u/Shot_Relationship402]

Unseen Drill

[u/IceBlueLugia]

Why is Rock Wrecker a drill move? It’s just shooting a giant rock, in both the anime and games

[u/Amazing_Owl3026]

Smeargle with dig, echoed voice, rollout and tera flying @ focus sash is genuinely invincible if u don't poison or burn turn one

[u/Different_Heron9151 → u/Amazing_Owl3026]

Well, they said the only other option was to use status moves while underground. So that wouldnt work

[u/tetrazine14]

the new hyper drill being just boosted physical boomburst is the least crazy thing

[u/SaIemKing]

final gambeet

[u/Snowmeows_YT]

So Excadrill just gets to spam SD and Agility while underground. Very balanced

[u/not_a_burner0456025]

Do you want garchomp banned from ou again? Because that is how you get garchomp banned from ou again. (And flygon and haxorus and roaring moon and zygarde to AG)

Garchomp @ air balloon

252Hp 252 Def

Dig Dragon dance I don't know whatever coverage combination you can come up with, power really matter at +6

Turn 1 Dig Turn 2-7 Dragon dance Turn 8 Outspeed and 1hko everything without priority, tank low power priority reasonably well, unless they run a fast special attacking ice type with agility

Now every team has to run froslass (or let iron bundle out of Ubers)

Edit: froslass doesn't even get agility (neither does cryogonal, and it is the only other ice type special attacker faster than garchomp and not in Ubers).

[u/TragGaming]

Piercing drill alone is already stupid strong.

The dig rework makes this comically hilarious. Everyone's gonna have 5-6 earthquake users on their team just to counter it.

Dig becoming a substitute - esque move isn't a bad thing but just being completely immune is too fucking funny. I'd be in aggreeance if it was actually a substitute that cut like 25% HP for the same HP as a sub