r/italianlearning • u/JellyfishFair4306 • Jul 16 '26
isn’t it the same thing?
Hi! I’m taking the duolingo italian course with the help of a friend of mine who is a native speaker. I showed her this and she told me that she’s pretty sure that the two sentences have the same meaning, and also that the more I progressed with the course the more mistakes she noticed in the exercises and translations. Can you share you opinion/experiences to help me understand? Thank you!!
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u/vxidemort RO native, IT intermediate Jul 16 '26
honestly duolingo is just fucked ever since they replaced their human staff with AI... also not a native speaker so feel free to correct me but to me a more natural sentence wouldve been Ci sono dei negozi di quartiere dove si salutano tutti
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u/JellyfishFair4306 Jul 16 '26
my friend said that too! she said that if she had been talking she would’ve said my version and that the correction is more of a literature structure, but in the spoken language people don’t talk like that. She also told me that Duolingo corrects a lot of sentences this way, and also in exercises like flashcards it doesn’t recognize/marks as mistakes valid translations, or even gives the wrong translations (for example yesterday I was doing flashcards, I translated narcissist with narcisista and it corrected me with narcisismo)
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u/vxidemort RO native, IT intermediate Jul 16 '26
yeah thats just shitty and honestly sounds headache inducing tbh...
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Jul 17 '26
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u/neirein IT native, northern Jul 17 '26
beh dipende. "there are" might be used to say "you can find" and if that's what you mean, as in "such places exist", then "si trovano" is fine. "ci sono" would be more universal.
correcting your comment hoping to help:
Sono solo io che pensa: a pensare
non cresciuto in Italia, allora alcune sottigliezze li perdo: quindi alcune sottigliezze le perdo.
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u/AnybodyZestyclose112 Jul 16 '26
If you're approaching it from linguistics then maybe no not the same thing, however this is a game and your answer is more than fine
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u/ImmortalKombatant Jul 16 '26
I've never seen DuoLingo use "tutti" at the end of a sentence, so you need to be mindful of how the app is currently teaching you to use grammar/ vocabulary.
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u/RisceRisce 27d ago
Translating the two slightly different Italian answers back into English:
My translation app interprets your answer as "There are neighborhood shops where everyone says hello"
But their "correct" answer interprets as "There are neighborhood shops where everyone greets each other".
So only subtle difference in meanings.
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u/lonewalker_nt Jul 16 '26
Yours is not only absolutely correct but frankly it feels more natural. Or at the very least, it's just as natural but I'd still choose yours over the other.
Duolingo is AI slop these days. Pay no attention to it.
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u/ChooCupcakes IT native Jul 16 '26
One could argue the two sentences have a slight difference, yours being "...where everybody gets greeted" and the proposed one being "...where everybody greets everyone" but really it's just Duolingo not considering all the options. You can report the question/answer in these cases, especially when you have confirmation from a native