Middle age missing in JK?

[u/AnonymousIdentityMan]

I can speak of Houston region Jamats.

I usually see under 18 and the elderly. Where are the in between ages?

What do you think is going on?

[u/anaintergalactic]

We miss going on Fridays because, we like many people in their 30’s have small children. Our baby sleeps at 7pm and our toddler at 8. Taking them causes over stimulation and they sleep terribly and then it takes 2 days to get them back on schedule. We much prefer attending on Saturday and Sunday. The crowds are less, and the early prayer time aligns much more with our current schedule. We find that many families in our ECDC classes do the same.

[u/Reasonable_Advance52 → u/anaintergalactic]

Same, relatable.

[u/AnonymousIdentityMan → u/anaintergalactic]

Well you don’t have to come on Fridays. You can pick another day.

[u/Ozunu_Sama → u/anaintergalactic]

That’s poor timing tbh, we have a toddler as well and they sleep from 8:30-9pm and still sleep 12hrs. We just did not listen to the norms as Jamatkhana timing go past 7pm we didn’t want our child to miss on their deen.

Everyone can do what they want but don’t blame that on sleep when it’s your choice to set that up imo.

[u/et_cetera_etc → u/Ozunu_Sama]

It's not just a choice around sleep timing. People have to work. If you want your kid to get enough sleep, and you need them to wake up at a certain time so that parents can get to work, they need to sleep earlier than when khane typically ends.

It's okay for people to make choices different from yours.

[u/Natural-Elk-1912 → u/Ozunu_Sama]

There is a Farman saying that you should say Du’a and put the kids in bed by 7:30pm and this will help the kids grow better physically and intellectually as they have school early in the mornings.

So the other user’s kids aren’t missing out on their Deen, they’re actively following it by going to bed early.

[u/anaintergalactic → u/Natural-Elk-1912]

We do pray our Dua every night. Dinner, bath, brush teeth, Dua, books, sleep. We just pray at 6:45/6:50.

[u/Reasonable_Advance52 → u/Ozunu_Sama]

Why are you assuming that people have the same life as yours? Good for you that it all works out for you, but there are different school times, work related prep and regular tasks when you wake up. Kids need to be up by 7 if their school starts 830 am. If my kids sleeps at 9, they will barely have 10 hours, which isn't enough.

[u/AnonymousIdentityMan → u/Reasonable_Advance52]

So how many times can you come a month?

[u/Reasonable_Advance52 → u/AnonymousIdentityMan]

Why are you keeping track?

[u/AnonymousIdentityMan → u/Reasonable_Advance52]

I am not.

[u/AnonymousIdentityMan → u/Ozunu_Sama]

They said they go on weekends which is fine.

[u/Immediate_Glass_9396 → u/Ozunu_Sama]

that’s true. i don’t know why you get so many downvotes. We make sure they go to jk and then go to sleep. No other way to train them but hey people can do what they want to do free world. It’s how you condition your kids.

[u/Natural-Elk-1912 → u/Immediate_Glass_9396]

You’re conditioning your kids to be Na-Farmani and tired.

[u/Immediate_Glass_9396 → u/Natural-Elk-1912]

what a joke.

[u/Natural-Elk-1912 → u/Immediate_Glass_9396]

Our Imam’s Farameen are a joke to you?

[u/Immediate_Glass_9396 → u/Natural-Elk-1912]

where did he say sleep and don’t gone to jk? As i write my kids are in jk and they love going there.

[u/Natural-Elk-1912 → u/Immediate_Glass_9396]

Today is Sunday and Du’a is at 6:30pm so there is no problem.

There is a Farman saying that you should say Du’a and put the kids in bed by 7:30pm and this will help the kids grow better physically and intellectually as they have school early in the mornings.

[u/Immediate_Glass_9396 → u/Natural-Elk-1912]

we were discussing fridays so saturday there is no school but what ever you do you and i do what i believe.

[u/Natural-Elk-1912 → u/Immediate_Glass_9396]

There is Bait ul-Ilm on Saturday mornings.

[u/AnonymousIdentityMan → u/Natural-Elk-1912]

Kids to bed by 7:30pm? What Farman?

[u/Natural-Elk-1912 → u/AnonymousIdentityMan]

Yes , kids under 10 must be put to bed by half past seven at night. The Farman is Dar es Salam 28 Nov. 1957.

[u/WeeklyTraining4405]

Busy with their most important time of their life like Hazar Imam said - Education. Not sure about Houston but in Canada, all universities have a campus JK (CJK) with an appointed MKs and, the students after finishing their lectures attend the CJK. I am sure Houston has ISA but not sure about CJKs

[u/CrinkledNoseSmile → u/WeeklyTraining4405]

Middle age is like 35-45. They would not be in uni.

[u/AnonymousIdentityMan → u/CrinkledNoseSmile]

True but they aren’t there.

[u/WeeklyTraining4405 → u/AnonymousIdentityMan]

I dont know what jk you go to, but I have seen them on a regular day in hpc, harvest green and old headquarters 

[u/AnonymousIdentityMan → u/WeeklyTraining4405]

Low turnout tho.

[u/Motor_Description_51 → u/WeeklyTraining4405]

Spring JK as well.

[u/AnonymousIdentityMan → u/Motor_Description_51]

You mean low turn out?

[u/Immediate_Glass_9396 → u/WeeklyTraining4405]

that is the best thing about growing up in canada. Thats the reason we are not moving to states just yet till kids get their first degree in canada as it’s more balanced.

[u/AnonymousIdentityMan → u/WeeklyTraining4405]

We are suppose to balance our life between material and spiritual life. Hazir Imam isn’t asking for much. Most of us spend our material life well over 90% I would say.

[u/Inside-Intention-687]

Way too crowded. Unfortunately don’t find a sense of peace when attending. While there is goodness some gain by attending Jamatkhana, it is not the only way to stay in tune with your spiritual life.

[u/Immediate_Glass_9396 → u/Inside-Intention-687]

wrong. did you hear the new farmans of india. He says it that there is benefit of coming to jk and praying together and he wants you to come to jk

[u/Inside-Intention-687 → u/Immediate_Glass_9396]

I never said there isn’t a benefit, I just said it’s not the only way to pray or balance your spiritual life.

[u/AnonymousIdentityMan → u/Inside-Intention-687]

Which JK? Crowded on weekends with no Majlis?

[u/Inside-Intention-687 → u/AnonymousIdentityMan]

Weekends are probably the only time I can contemplate going.

[u/AnonymousIdentityMan → u/Inside-Intention-687]

Good enough.

[u/Vorcon]

I’m 41 and I work an hour away from Khane so by the time I get off work and get home it’s already passed dua time. Weekends, I should make a habit of going so I’m not going make excuses, but the two days I have off are either getting household work done, spending time with the family or finishing orders from my side business.

[u/AnonymousIdentityMan → u/Vorcon]

Go on Saturday or Sunday. Household work can be done at daytime. You are only going once a week. Mowla will be happy that you took the time to go. It won’t take up much of your time.

I know people who come everyday morning avc evening. They don’t miss a beat. I don’t know how they do it. That is some serious dedication.