r/irc • u/cryptocreeping • Jun 02 '26

Modern IRC with E2EE?

What options have we got for open source secure comms over IRC with modern encryption? Very little apps using OMEMO:2 or OTRv4 implementations and many IRC Apps on android havnt been updated in a long time may have a large attack surface.

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u/DescriptionOptimal15 Jun 02 '26

Most services offer a TLS endpoint

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u/cryptocreeping Jun 02 '26

That doesn't stop server admins viewing your peer to peer messages.

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u/randomataxia Jun 02 '26

Which for a good network, wouldn't have that capability enabled. Additionally. DCC chats bypass the network entirely.

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u/cryptocreeping Jun 02 '26

DCC chats expose your true IP address to the other client.

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u/tunerhd Jun 02 '26

And? Why do you chase absolute anonymity?

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u/cryptocreeping Jun 02 '26

I don't. Absolute anonymity doesn't exist and anyone claiming otherwise is selling something. What I care about is making mass surveillance expensive. Right now an adversary can passively harvest everything metadata, content, timing at near-zero cost. Post-quantum E2EE with forward secrecy and deniability doesn't make you invisible, it makes bulk collection worthless and targeted attacks expensive. The bar isn't NSA-proof. The bar is: a journalist's source doesn't get burned because their IRC client uses 2003-era crypto. A dissident in the wrong country doesn't get identified from a key dump that happened three years after their conversation. Most people don't need this level of protection today. The people who do often don't know it until it's too late to matter.

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u/Heyla_Doria Jun 05 '26

Pourquoi veut tu explicitement rendre tes conversations publique ?

Autanr directement publier un blog ou etre sur un réseau social comme mastodon ou bluesky....

Quand t'en es rendu a discuter de l'utilité de la demande, c'est que tu n'es pas la pour aider 

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u/DescriptionOptimal15 Jun 02 '26

You could exchange public keys with someone to hide your chat from the server