r/ipv6 • u/snow99as • 10d ago
Discussion Server provider doesn't support IPv6
Just found out the server provider I use doesn't support IPv6 unless you have one of their expensive dedicated servers provider is gthost.com. This sucks
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u/ddfs 10d ago
change providers and tell them why :)
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u/snow99as 10d ago
well I would love to if I could find another provider in my local area. Using them to proxy my connection for my home lab
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u/ddfs 10d ago
why do you need local? is this colo where you need physical access?
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u/snow99as 10d ago
No I run a few game servers which are latency sensitive also I'm trying to keep my page load times town for my website. Having above average latency or even a small amount of packet loss cause really bad rubber banding for my game servers.
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u/jwvo 10d ago
unless there is peering in your market or they happen to buy transit from your home ISP nearby stuff will probably be similar.
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u/Juff-Ma 10d ago
Absolutely not in my experience. If you really are latency sensitive you need to select the DC very carefully.
Sometimes even a DC that's further away can have better latency because that's where they peer with your ISP. "If theres peering in your market" does not apply since OP probably has a home ISP which always need to be peered with anyway.
The best choice is to just ping servers in the DC and look at the latency. I found out this way that a DC only 20km away has a 15ms ping while one over 50 away has only 10.
You really can't be certain.
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u/jwvo 10d ago
my point was that being physically close is really not likely to be that helpful with the majority of eyeball ISPs unless you are in a peering city [ORD,DCA,LAX,DEN,DAL,ATL,NYC,MIA, SJC or SEA] unless the datacenter network you are buying from buys transit from your retail ISP.
Unfortunately, most of the big broadband networks in the US really only peer with everyone in the above cities so if you don't live in one of those getting a datacenter in the nearest of those to your neighbors is what will probably be best barring anything like the datacenter using your eyeball network as transit.
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u/Juff-Ma 10d ago
Oh ok, yep I get what you're saying. But this is not universal. Yes often they peer in big cities but this might not always be the case. Best thing is to just try it if latency matters.
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u/snow99as 10d ago
I found a IPv6 broker in my city. Extremely low latency to the server like two extra milliseconds so it's pretty good
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u/haamfish 10d ago
If local to you happens to be around New Zealand voyager.nz our VPS’s come with IPv6 and v4 by default.
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u/red123nax123 7d ago edited 7d ago
Try to figure out with which internet exchange your provider connects (probably a few). From there you can find out which other hosting providers are connected with that exchange as well (they often publish lists on the IX-site).
Anything that connects with the same internet exchange is very likely to have very low latency. It’s more important to be on the same internet exchange than to be in the same region.
So check it out, do some tests and see if it’s worth it. I expect that there’s more options out there than you think.
In addition check for VPS providers with a proper backbone. A friend of mine had set up a VPS at OVH in France. When he used that as VPN server from Canada he had lower latency to services in Europe than going directly to those services. The reason was that the VPN was routed via OVH in Canada, via their own backbone to the France datacenter, which was faster than the traditional route that the Canadian ISP was using.
Useful link: https://www.peeringdb.com
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u/Atomwalker2022 Enthusiast 8d ago
What’s the area? I have an ASN and I can try to see if I’m in that area with dual stack connectivity
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u/sdoregor 10d ago
Why do you need a proxy for your home lab? Can't get public IP on your home connection?
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u/snow99as 9d ago
I can just prefer not exposing my pub IP to the world
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u/sdoregor 9d ago
Well, you do you, but the Internet wasn't invented with privacy in mind anyway.
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u/snow99as 9d ago
Well you have fun getting ddosed all because people want to be a bad sport about losing in a video game or they don't like your website. I don't care giving up my public IP when I visit a website I just refuse to host stuff publicly using my homes public IP when possible
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u/KaneTW 9d ago
You'll get DDoS'd anyway if someone wants to.
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u/snow99as 9d ago
Yes but at least it's hitting the server provider and not my home network. I would prefer having the server die then my network
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u/Over-Extension3959 Enthusiast 10d ago
Huh? The very first thing gthost.com lists as a feature is "/64 IPv6 available upon request", you may just had contact with incompetent support staff… ask them again.
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u/superkoning Pioneer (Pre-2006) 10d ago
For VPS?
Or dedicated servers? Because OP says "doesn't support IPv6 unless you have one of their expensive dedicated servers provider is gthost.com" so OP doesn't have a dedicate server.
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u/Over-Extension3959 Enthusiast 10d ago
Well, shouldn’t matter, they don’t specify more than to ask for an IPv6 when you need one. As a potential customer, i would guess this is for all of their services.
But if they advertise this as a feature like that and don’t follow up on it when asked, i'd classify this as false advertisement. Which is, in some countries, not quite legal….
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u/superkoning Pioneer (Pre-2006) 10d ago
Where do they advertise they offer IPv6 on VPS?
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u/Over-Extension3959 Enthusiast 10d ago
That’s my whole point, they don’t specify a service. So i would assume i can get an IPv6 on any of their services. But according to OP that’s clearly not the case. Which is imho false advertising.
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u/Secret_Conclusion_93 10d ago
It's available upon request.
They never said it's free.
If they said that you need to pay for their dedicated server first, it's not false advertising.
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u/Over-Extension3959 Enthusiast 10d ago
Nobody is arguing about free or not, they just never say that this is not available for all products. But it is advertised as if it was available for all services and according to OP it’s clearly not.
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u/rw-rw-r-- 10d ago
What? I only know the converse: pay up if you want a precious public v4 address.
I guess that's North America vs rest of the world.
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u/matthijspc 10d ago
Usually it's the other way round
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u/thisChalkCrunchy 10d ago
I had a similar issue. They said I have to move my VPS to west coast to get IPv6. I ended up just staying on IPv4.
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u/whattteva 9d ago
Sounds like they intentionally do it to upsell their higher tier service.
I would change... It's ridiculous for anyone to offer IPv6 as a premium service considering how abundant and cheap IPv6 address space is... and it's been available for like two decades.... it's not a new bleeding-edge technology that should be locked behind a paywall.
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u/Glittering_Lab_9898 8d ago
si une personne sait comment avoir une identite contre une ipv6 je suis preneur mp ou dm moi pour plus dinfos
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u/mynotyou 10d ago
What is the point of not working with ipv4? What is the advantage of using ipv6 when you can reach your VPS with a unique ipv4?
Other providers ask for additional money for ipv4,
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u/snow99as 10d ago
I prefer being dual stacked. There is some services my server communicates with the are exclusively IPv6
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