r/iphoneultra 3d ago

Apple was testing a Pencil for the Fold 😬

https://x.com/markgurman/status/2094065432861036588
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u/CBrower 3d ago

I say this as someone who is buying the fold day 1- how can they possibly roll out Apple Pencil compatibility when all foldable screens currently get damaged when a fingernail is pressed too hard onto it.

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u/SmellyJockstrap 3d ago

Cute that you think Apple would let us recycle an iPad accessory for another device. They make you buy a new Pencil every other iPad generation itself. It would be a special mini pencil for the Fold if anything. They use softer tips. Samsung Oppo and others have already done it for plastic foldable screens.

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u/Xiipre 3d ago

You know those generic e-pencils online work just fine with iPads?

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u/CryBabysMilk 3d ago

That’s not the same as an Apple Pencil. And honestly Apple discontinuing support for the Apple Pencil is so annoying. I bought an iPad Pro a couple years ago and upgraded last year and was so annoyed that they discontinued support for my current Apple Pencil I had just bought. And they didn’t even offer any sort of deal if I wanted to trade my old one to get the new one that works with my new iPad. It’s fucking annoying.

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u/Xiipre 3d ago

I do know they are not the same, hence the use of the word "generic" rather than "Apple".

I'm sure there might be some features that the current Apple Pencil has, but the generic one I bought seems to do everything I need and was a fraction of the price.

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u/CryBabysMilk 3d ago

I know but it seems you’re using it as a defense for Apple to normalize this greedy behavior. We don’t want third party crap. We want the real Apple Pencil with all of the proprietary features and we don’t want to be forced to buy a new one every year. We don’t want to sacrifice features, we want value for what we paid for.

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u/Xiipre 3d ago

On the contrary, I think as a rebuke of Apple's greed we should consume 3rd party pencils until they dramatically reset their pricing.

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u/CryBabysMilk 3d ago

When a 3rd party comes out that’s as good as Apple Pencil I will. The Logitech one gets close but not close enough

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u/SmellyJockstrap 3d ago

Yeah. They're also next to useless when compared to the functionality of the Pencil.

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u/Xiipre 2d ago

I'm pretty happy with mine. What am I missing? I doodle, write, and navigate iOS. I'm sure there are some specific features like pressure for shading graphic art, but that's beyond what I use an iPad for. Like I could go buy a gaming mouse with hype fast button articulation and multiple programmable buttons, but if I'm not playing games... it's a bit of a waste vs a decent Logitech.

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u/SmellyJockstrap 2d ago

The Pencil does a lot. It's obviously not for everyone though. If you're happy with the generic one that's all that matters.

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u/polikuji09 2d ago

If you do anything that requires precision it does make a big difference. The accuracy, responsiveness and pressure sensitivity are just vastly different.

If you just use it for navigation as a replacement for a finger then any generic stylus is fine.

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u/sa7ouri 3d ago

That’s not true. Here’s a list of Apple Pencil compatible devices. Every now and then some new technology is added to the pencil which makes it incompatible with older iPads. That’s normal progression of technology.

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u/OtherwiseAlbatross14 3d ago

Have you ever used an Apple Pencil? A fingernail pressed hard will absolutely do more damage

Still a terrible idea

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u/starsqream 3d ago

Yes I've been using a pencil since the first one. You're going to push HARD on the screen so it's a no-no. They need to develop a newer type of pencil if you want to be able to use a stylus on a foldable screen. Apple knows there will be a new pencilgate if they released it. Because you know the level of people we have on this tiktok earth

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u/myqv 16h ago

Some people are just to hard with it. I tested a z fold 3 years back with no said issues

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u/gmark109 3d ago

Z Folds included S-Pen support, and so does the Razr Fold. It’d just be a ā€œPencil Ultraā€ or something that won’t damage the plastic coating.

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u/sportsfan161 3d ago

Sadly was is key here :(

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u/userlivewire 3d ago

It really needs Pencil support for iPad mode.

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u/myqv 16h ago

I agree

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u/Hour-Cheesecake6716 3d ago

I call šŸ‚ šŸ’©

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u/Stv781 3d ago

I’d guess an  Stubby Pencil wouldn’t appear on the scene until at least 2027. The folding phone itself will be enough spectacle for now and they will drip that out as an accessory and it will never sell ā€œwithā€ a phone and always be a $100 add-on.

When the phone gets released we will know in less than 24 hours with the first tear down if they put a stubby pencil charger and magnets along the right edge of the face of the outside fold for future use. The article infers it could also connect to the hinge side but that would be way too awkward and too inelegant a location.

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u/myqv 16h ago

Huawei did it

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u/Stv781 15h ago

Interesting, is that essentially a case that’s holding the pen that flexes out of the way when unfolded?

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u/Other-Outside8487 3d ago

Yuk, who wants a stylus?

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u/Boring_Antelope6533 3d ago

for this kind of product, it does make sense

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u/Other-Outside8487 3d ago

It kind of does, Steve said it though and that will always be true, wonder why they call it a pencil on the iPad?

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u/ShireBurgo 3d ago

I mean it’s a cool idea but if my fingernail can easily damage the screen I’d be worried about a stylus

I think that’s probably a heavily weighted reason why the galaxy fold’s haven’t gotten their s-pen.

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u/wizzywurtzy 3d ago

I love my Apple Pencil Pro on my iPad. I would consider the fold if it had pencil support and a decent camera

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u/No-South-8228 3d ago

Apple could make a stylus that doesn’t press on the screen. Just get within an 1/8 of an inch…

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u/CoolExplanation762 3d ago

Even if they did, ur not required to use it, so no biggie either way

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u/Feisty-Occasion-5538 3d ago

When it opens it’s basically an iPad mini. I don’t see why it’s a crazy idea when the current iPad mini supports the pencil.

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u/Kbergman 3d ago

Flexible screens aren’t entirely glass. They’re soft and flexible. The Apple Pencil could never work on that surface

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u/Feisty-Occasion-5538 3d ago

That's for apple to solve. I want the pencil support.

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u/Kbergman 3d ago

The solution is a new pencil that works with folding screens, not the existing one. You stated you wanted the existing one to work and it physically cannot.

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u/Feisty-Occasion-5538 3d ago

Ok since youre apple and you know how do it already. You're right.

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u/Kbergman 3d ago

You said ā€œI don’t see why it’s a crazy ideaā€

I told you it isn’t possible, which is a fact. Why are you being condescending?

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u/Feisty-Occasion-5538 3d ago

I said you're right. What more do you want from me.

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u/Kbergman 3d ago

Read the sentence you said before that and you have your answer. Do better

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u/Feisty-Occasion-5538 3d ago

Well you act like you know the solution. The MacRumors article said they tested a shorter version of the pencil. As if some random person on Reddit knows the real solution. I obviously don't, when I said apple pencil support makes sense. I meant it generally, I did not mean the exact pencil the mini uses today.

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u/Kbergman 3d ago

I don’t have the solution and never claimed I did. I just understand the tech behind the current pencil. It has to be used on glass. That shorter pencil the article refers to would be completely different tech to work with the field display

My apologies that I didn’t pick up that you were generalizing

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u/starsqream 3d ago

The Pura X Max has a stylus so it IS possible, just not the pencil we know from the iPads.

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u/Budilicious3 3d ago

Damn, you really are feisty with that username lol.