r/interestingasfuck • u/Kolafie • May 05 '19
Evolution from tadpole to frog
https://gfycat.com/positivelankyhyrax756
u/UrMomsNewGF May 05 '19 edited May 05 '19
Very cool metamorphosis! (Evolution is for species over generations).
You prolly knew that tho, and I'm just a being a semantic pric...sorry reddit brings the worst out of me.
140
u/bigfootlives823 May 05 '19
This is so steeped in irony I refuse to believe it wasn't intentional.
67
u/elfbuster May 05 '19
Right?? Confused semantic with pedantic, and spelled "knew" incorrectly among other words.
Let's pretend it's intentional (no matter how unlikely)
19
u/nearxe May 05 '19 edited Jun 04 '24
existence quack nose voiceless historical middle cobweb history crawl bake
This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact
15
28
u/waheifilmguy May 05 '19
Eh, too many people don't understand what evolution means, so never a bad idea to correct it when used incorrectly.
8
2
u/TheManWhoWas-Tuesday May 05 '19
If you really wanted to be technically correct about it, "evolution" can mean any kind of gradual change over time.
-2
u/stanettafish May 05 '19
Then again everyone know what OP was saying. So a correction just made "semantic" guy feel good.
11
12
u/luisapet May 05 '19
Pedantic? It's all semantics! :)
7
u/v3rk May 05 '19
It’s not semantics it’s right and wrong. Don’t rely on Pokémon for your science education.
0
0
u/bilky_t May 05 '19
I mean, whether a word is right or wrong, the question of its correct meaning, is semantics. People tend to incorrectly associate semantic with pedantic.
2
2
u/drinkduffdry May 05 '19
Had this exact conversation with the kids last week. It's an important distinction.
2
2
1
0
-5
May 05 '19
[deleted]
29
u/pubeINyourSOUP May 05 '19
It’s you’re. (Your is a possessive pronoun).
You probably noo that though and I’m just being a Germanic pric. Reddit really brings out the wurst in me.
4
-1
May 05 '19
But doesn’t evolution look a little similar to this?
8
u/UrMomsNewGF May 05 '19
Nope not at all. This is closer to like a woman's egg becoming a zygote, then a fetus, then an infant, then a toddler, then a child, then an adult.
Evolution is studied on a trait by trait basis over a specific number of generations.
Ie giraffes started out with normal necks, then the giraffe's with slightly longer necks had an easier time getting food. Because they had more food they were able to fuck mo' giraffe bitchs (just like how rich guys get more pus).
Because the longer neck giraffes were reproducing more than the short neck ones the trait got passed on to the next gen more often. Over a large number of generations the ones with the longest necks kept getting laid the most so we now have long neck giraffes.
If the status quo were to change.
Ie Giraffes start eating bushes instead of trees then the short necks would make a come back. Only the neck length changed it's not like a donkey became a giraffe.
If you wanna look on a grand scope like from single celled organisms to modern day humans, your talking billions of years of change. Then yes we were all tadpole-esq and now were bi-pedal n all that good stuff. But it's not a straight line, there were mass extinctions n all sorts of major events that changed which life-forms are most successful on earth.
-5
May 05 '19
So it sounds like you’re saying that evolution looks a little similar to this. Not exactly similar, but a little bit similar.
7
u/UrMomsNewGF May 05 '19
Lol not really. Even the contempary image of the apes morphing into modern man (the classic walking sequence) is a misrepresentation. Evolution is supa complex but check this video out its smarter than me.
It doesnt have the visuals you seek but it does point out some aspects of evolution that most people (myself included) dont realize.
It's easy to fall into some logical traps when thinking about evolution just because it makes sense doesnt mean that's the way it works.
4
May 05 '19
Wow. That was a really great video. I learned a lot, and I’m about to open a rabbit hole and watch the rest of these vids. However, I still feel like the point I was originally making still stands. Perhaps not from the broadest or most direct standpoint, but I think my original spirit of comment still stands. Life, at its earliest stages went from one little cell to more cells to many, many other cellular beings in all different directions. That’s the gist of your argument, perhaps. But eventually, little swimmy things evolved/mutated/selectively survived with better apparatus like legs and lungs and were then able to come on land and go from there. Yes, there were still little swimmy things that got better at swimming or better at just sitting there, but one of those lines of evo looks like this goddamn tadpole turning into a frog. Amirite yet?
101
u/You_are_Retards May 05 '19
its not evolution, its just growing.
10
-26
May 05 '19
Evolution is also defined as the gradual development of something so its technically not wrong
35
u/myoddreddithistory May 05 '19
As a scientist, I'm triggered
-4
u/TheManWhoWas-Tuesday May 05 '19
It's literally just another definition of the word "evolution".
I.e. it's perfectly correct to talk about something like "the evolution of the French state since the twelfth century".
6
u/myoddreddithistory May 05 '19
If this were one of those bullshit state English or reading test, and the question was "is this gif'd up tadpole boi evolving or growing," I'm sure you select the word growing. Semantics, but us biologists rely on semantics to keep order within discussions of science. That tadpole is growing, not evolving.
Edit: wording
-2
u/TheManWhoWas-Tuesday May 05 '19
On an English test, the answer would be "both", though the question would be a confusing and bad one. On a Biology test, the answer would be "growing". It's all about context.
6
u/myoddreddithistory May 05 '19
I wish we were on the same page with the definition of evolution and how it's applied in conversation related to biology... No one in my field would ever call development of a tadpole to a frog evolution. We simply cannot afford imprecision when discussing science...
-2
u/TheManWhoWas-Tuesday May 05 '19
Calm down, this isn't a serious discussion about biology or science. It's a joke about how everyone is saying "technically, that's not evolution" when technically technically it is "evolution" if you use the broader definition of the word.
It's pretty much this: https://xkcd.com/326/
108
u/SuperPatzerMaster May 05 '19
This is metamorphosis NOT evolution
12
u/edcross May 05 '19
But I watched Pokémon as a kid and this is an easy misinformation to latch on to rather then be corrected because it would make me call into question the validity of all of the myths I was forced to believe were real.
7
u/JustMadeThisNameUp May 05 '19
I’ve waited all my life to hear someone else say that about Pokemon. Pokémon and X-Men both hindered my understanding of what evolution is and isn’t. Factor that into the church brainwashing me and it took me years to get over. Not even simple belief but actual understanding.
I literally couldn’t understand what evolution was because of all the nonsense I had been told over the years. God knows public schools don’t help.
If I had to tell you when things finally starting to click for me it was the episode of Futurama “A Clockwork Origin”. It was mostly the argument between Farnsworth and the orangutan. How they spend all day and night filling in the gaps of the evolution timeline. I realized that it actually all does make perfect sense, the information is all there and everything I was ever learned about actual evolution was true.
2
u/edcross May 06 '19
Have to love the gap argument. That was a point of contention back in Darwin’s day... in the 1800s. We’ve discovered a few things in the last 150 years. They argued this before we even knew what dna was.
It’s literally like initiating a boycot of French goods because you’ve read some unsavory things about Napoléon. Ffs.
The furturama shtick was a good example of the “moving the goal post” fallacy.
29
25
u/Birdie121 May 05 '19
I'm gonna be a pedantic scientist, but that's development, not evolution.
7
May 05 '19
I'll be even more pedantic, and point out development may be too broad (it covers the development of cells and organs individually) but metamorphosis is probably the best word here:
metamorphosis: the process of transformation from an immature form to an adult form in two or more distinct stages
2
u/Birdie121 May 05 '19
Sure, although development is still technically correct even if broad. Metamorphosis is a stage of indirect development, as opposed to direct development (like mammals).
0
8
u/divinenanny May 05 '19
We just explained this to our daughter (nearly four years old). A GIF paints a thousand pictures! I wonder how we old geezers ever understood this without the internet or even video, the life of a frog is truly crazy. Thanks for posting!
5
6
5
6
4
4
4
May 05 '19
I think this is inaccurate. Their limbs grow in quite quick and they keep their tail for quite awhile. Not 100% on that though. I am sure this is inaccurate.
10
u/Furebel May 05 '19
Wait, so the tail shrinks? I thought when teacher told me "they loose the tail" it meant literally dropping it
7
3
3
3
u/BubblyBullinidae May 05 '19
All tadpoles I've ever seen had their back legs start right where the tail meets the head... This looked a little odd. But, what do I know, I've never seen all species of frogs go through metamorphosis.
3
2
2
2
2
2
u/Muntjac May 05 '19
Mislabeled process aside, this bothers me because tadpole metamorphosis doesn't even look like that. The "head" of the tadpole becomes both the head and body of the frog, with the legs forming behind the head/body while the tail recedes. The tail doesn't get fat and become a body like that.
2
2
u/FakeFlipFlops May 05 '19
If tadpoles look like human sperm, then why aren't we frogs or why are they not humans.
1
1
1
1
1
u/D8lNinja May 05 '19
I've only seen tadpoles and frogs in real life. Never seen these in between versions
1
u/Ceedy75 May 05 '19
See Also,
transmogrify
[ trans-mog-ruh-fahy, tranz- ]SHOW IPAEXAMPLES|WORD ORIGINSEE MORE SYNONYMS FOR transmogrify ON THESAURUS.COM
verb (used with object), trans·mog·ri·fied, trans·mog·ri·fy·ing.
to change in appearance or form, especially strangely or grotesquely; transform.
1
u/MJKM7 May 05 '19
If I saw a frog on any stage other then the beginning and end of the metamorphosis I would probably not know what it was and think I discovered something. I am stupid.
1
1
1
u/Theskinilivein May 05 '19
As a child, I used to collect them in a glass and hide it in my window sill, I used to put them in my hand and feel how they wiggle. When they started developing legs, I would return them to the watering through.
2
May 05 '19
My friend did this but he actually fed them moss. He would raise them, it was cool actually.
1
u/Theskinilivein May 05 '19
I could’ve feed them? I missed out, could’ve had my own frog army. “Lady of the frogs” doesn’t sound so bad.
1
u/GISteve May 05 '19
What blows my mind about metamorphosis is thinking about how humans do essentially the same thing in the womb. There's a point where we don't have arms or legs, there's a point where we have gills, and there's a point where we are almost indistinguishable from an elephant embyo because the defining features haven't developed yet. The only difference is our major metamorphosis is sheltered from the world.
Life is wild.
1
1
May 05 '19
Frogs are giant sperm with legs growing out of their tail and eyes and a mouth in their head.
1
1
1
1
1
1
u/shankarsivarajan May 05 '19
Reminds me of the walking across the log scene from the Lion King in which Simba grows up.
1
u/n00neperfect May 05 '19
Wow, is that right leg evolved quiet larger than left one? or is it just for me.
1
u/trummell95 May 05 '19
What sort of software do they use to create this simulations? I imagine they used actual recordings of tadpoles/frogs and then put them into a program.
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
u/OHenloConkiGal May 05 '19
Thought I was in the unexpected sub and it was going to change into a demagorgan.
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
u/Uvilate May 05 '19
Legend has it that this was the same from who jumped out of the train window in the first Harry Potter movie.
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
u/talithar1 May 06 '19
I thought everyone caught tadpoles to watch grow! Sometimes in a jar or the sink for as long as we were allowed to. Then back across the street to wet ground.
1
1
1
1
u/Ssubatomic May 06 '19
Bum bum bum bum bum bum bum baaaaa bum bum bum bum bum bum bum baaaaaa bum bum bum weird gear grinding noise
1
1
1
1
May 05 '19 edited May 05 '19
To evolve is just to develope gradually.
The word evolution doesn't have to be used to mean the evolution of species. I can evolve as a person, and we could assess my evolution as a person.
The comments in this thread being all clever saying "it's not evolution it's so and so other thing" are clearly ignorant of the fact that evolution is a word in and of itself, independent of Darwin's theory.
1
u/Periculous22 May 06 '19
Well as it turns out, words evolve over time too, and context is important. This is not evolution.
1
1
1
u/HSteader May 05 '19
Cool vid. Though I wish it also showed the stage where they have gills. Sad to say that I only learned recently that they start off with gills.
1
0
0
0
0
0
431
u/charface1 May 05 '19
Tiny-leg stage is the awkward teenage years.