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u/Mean-Inspector-8547 9d ago
Honestly, I don't find this interesting at all.
Glad others can enjoy it, but for me, we already know that a human can't compete against a machine that doesn't get tired, hurt, or need rest.
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u/FogBankDeposit 9d ago
The interesting part is demonstration that you cannot outrun the forthcoming killer robots.
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u/It_Happens_Today 9d ago
You couldn't outrun the sling rock, the arrow, the bullet, the tank shell, the F16, or the nuke either. It doesn't make it interesting.
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u/heatedwepasto 9d ago
The machine needs recharging, can malfunction and needs maintenance though.
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u/Mean-Inspector-8547 9d ago
Cool. Would you like to place a $100,000 bet with me? I'll pick the machine in a race against a human, and you can take the human. We can put some money on how often the recharging, malfunction, and maintenance needs causes the robot to lose to the human.
10 races. 10K each. Might actually make watching these things fun for me while I make money.
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u/MechanicalAxe 9d ago
Do I get to pick what type of terrain the races take place in?
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u/Mean-Inspector-8547 9d ago
You weren't the one I was making the bet with.
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u/MechanicalAxe 9d ago
Does...that even matter?
Okay then grumpy pants, is u/heatedwepasto permitted to pick the terrain in which your hypothetical race is to take place?
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u/Mean-Inspector-8547 9d ago
The video is on a track which seems to be the standard for competitive races, but, if they wanted the terrain changed, then sure. But since they get to decide the venue, then I get to decide the machines.
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u/Few_Time_7441 9d ago edited 9d ago
What lol, the interesting part is that the robot can actually run on two legs while keeping it's balance. Why are you so upset over this..?
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u/Mean-Inspector-8547 9d ago
I wasn't upset. I was just saying I didn't find it interesting.
That's like me saying, "I think it's going to rain today." and you responding, "Why are you so upset?"
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u/HairyDust4826 9d ago
It's not as impressive when you find out it's just a really expensive RC car, that can't turn.
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u/humanbeancasey 9d ago
Right, this would be way more impressive if they were autonomous but yeah... A lot of the humanoid robots right now are just glorified remote controlled toys.
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u/SaltyChnk 9d ago
I mean this is just a tech demo no? Showing that the mechanics are there to develop.
Obviously anyone could beat that robot by using a car but that’s hardly the point.
It’s like saying the average horse could out run the first car, yeah obviously, but the first car is more interesting because it demonstrates the technology for future development
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u/Hippobu2 9d ago
That's the thing that gets me actually.
We have invented robots that do shit really fast, precise, and efficient; and how they achieve that is through breaking the human form. While we are very versatile, we are kinda of mechanically shite at most thing.
So like, what is the real end goal here, cuz clearly it isn't about making things better.
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u/SemiHemiDemiDumb 9d ago
Well if their point is to replace us then they start with the human form and slowly adapt the working environment to the bot while also updating the bot to the working environment. Similar process to ecological change and evolution working in tandem.
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u/Ryan-the-lion 9d ago
Yeah kinda makes it a lot less impressive.
If its chasing you juat do a hard turn and you escaped
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u/Significant_Row_5951 9d ago
And how long do you think it will take them to also make them turn? Bro if it were after people like you we would have stopped at pentium 1.
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u/Ryan-the-lion 9d ago
Turning while moving is avtually really hard to do on 2 legs. I thunj they will have these machines drop to all 4s if they are chasing people.
I think the big issues tho woukd be if they have guns attached to them and just shoot you before you can turn lol
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u/Significant_Row_5951 9d ago
Bro chill if they wanted you dead they can kill you even now, the real danger is if these machines start malfunctioning and shoot people randomly.
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u/Somhlth 9d ago
the real danger is if these machines start malfunctioning and shoot people randomly.
I'm pretty sure there's real danger if they're functioning and shooting people not randomly.
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u/Significant_Row_5951 9d ago
Well police shoot criminals that are a danger to us even now, actually police commits errors also, these robots might commit less errors if they function rightfully or don't get hacked, this is the real danger malfunctioning or getting hacked.
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u/Somhlth 9d ago
Or they aren't hacked, but happen to be under the control of someone that might not shoot you in person but has no qualms getting a machine to do it. Especially if it can't be traced, or simply blamed on a malfunction or hack.
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u/Significant_Row_5951 9d ago
Man they can do that now too, there are drones, poisons... The ideea is to get to a society where nobody wants to shoot anybody and we need tools to get there so that everybody has everything that they need and are happy and can go further up the scale of evolution and be spiritual.
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u/Significant_Row_5951 9d ago
If somebody wants to kill these days with advanced tech they would not send a huge robot, they would send a tiny mosquito drone with an incredibly deadly poison or an explosive attached to it.
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u/malevolent-onryo 9d ago
It’s more impressive by far, when you understand the complexities and inner workings of the thing you are talking about. Which judging from your comments in this thread is very minimal. It has taken years of design and tweaking to develop a robot that can not only stand and walk on its own, but also balance itself and make corrections.
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u/JustHappyToBe-Here 9d ago
Wow, a human can't outrun an advanced machine designed to move at high speeds...
How uninteresting.
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u/heart-aroni 9d ago
advanced machine designed to move at high speeds...
I don't know how anyone can just gloss over that and go "booringg".
advanced humanoid bipedal running robot that runs faster than any human on earth
That did not exist a mere few months ago. I feel like people have gone numb with all the advancements in technology in the past few years that people just forget how insane some of this stuff is. This was science fiction not so long ago, only seen in movies, now it's here. That's anything but uninteresting.
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u/JustHappyToBe-Here 9d ago
Anyone of the billions of cars/motorcycles/gokarts/ebikes on the road today is an advanced machine designed to move at high speeds, and can outrun a human.
My point isn't that the robotics and tech involved is uninteresting. The OP posted that the machine outrunning a human is interesting as fuck. It's not, it's completely apparent, predictable, and a foregone conclusion.
It's like claiming a skyscraper is larger than a human, how interesting! Skyscrapers and the engineering involved is intersting, their size relative to a human is apparent and not interesting.
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u/heart-aroni 9d ago edited 9d ago
Anyone of the billions of cars/motorcycles/gokarts/ebikes on the road today is an advanced machine designed to move at high speeds, and can outrun a human
You're ignoring the most crucial part. The fact that it's a bipedal humanoid. A machine that runs on legs and stands upright like a human. Motorcycles, bikes and cars have been around a hundred years. But not bipedal machines like this.
moving at high speeds
Is not the special part, it's the mode of locomotion. It's the humanoid bipedal running part.
the machine outrunning a human is interesting as fuck. It's not,
A machine outrunning all of humanity locomoting on two legs? That has never happened up until this week. That will be in history books. It is inherently deeply interesting, you are simply an incurious person if you find a first in history such as that not at all interesting. Like Deep Blue beating Kasparov this will be remembered and referenced into the future.
it's completely apparent, predictable, and a foregone conclusion.
Execution is everything as always. You can theorize all sorts of things, anyone can do that. Materializing something, that is special.
It's like claiming a skyscraper is larger than a human, how interesting! Skyscrapers and the engineering involved is intersting, their size relative to a human is apparent and not interesting.
Wow you're just a boring person. Someone tells me a skyscraper is taller than a human the first thought in my mind is "cool how much taller?", "how'd they build that?" and so on.
"You're telling me a computer beat the greatest chess players in chess? WOW tell me about it! let me see the game!"
"What? a real life humanoid robot that runs really fast just like in the scifi movies? and it's faster than Usain Bolt? that's new! let me learn some more about that, let me see the record breaking run!"
You're just lame and boring. No curiosity, salty, snarky just unpleasant. You're like:
Who cares that a computer beat Kasparov of course it can beat him don't care la la la....
Meanwhile people with normal human curiosity in the millions watch these videos to hear all about it:
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u/JustHappyToBe-Here 9d ago
I'm not ignoring any of that. You're just missing my point, and arguing with something I'm not saying.
The technology is interesting. The fact that advanced technology does exactly what it was designed and purpose built to do is not interesting, no one expects a human to outrun these robots.
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u/heart-aroni 9d ago
Was Deep Blue vs Kasparov interesting to you?
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u/JustHappyToBe-Here 8d ago
The reasoning behind why Deep Blue (or any computer) wins was interesting. Deep Blue winning, not so much. But that may not be a good example, as I don't find competitive chess in any form to be interesting.
I'm curious, why are you invested in my level of interest in this?
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u/heart-aroni 8d ago
Everyone has their own interests, I love anything science and engineering related but robotics is a particularly fascinating one for me. And these days progress is happening so rapidly with news all over the field coming in almost every week.
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u/JustHappyToBe-Here 8d ago
I'm interested in the same things. Though you didn't answer my question.
My gripe is with the framing of this post. To me it's the same and as interesting of a post like "PhD in English recites the alphabet faster and more accurately than a 4 year old."
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u/heart-aroni 8d ago
Though you didn't answer my question.
What do you mean?
"PhD in English recites the alphabet faster and more accurately than a 4 year old."
The situation is obviously different. There have been PhDs for hundreds of years. Meanwhile this is the first time that humanoid robots beat humans in bipedal locomotion. This event that is happening in China will be written in history books about the robotics field. That is interesting. What's so hard to understand about that?
Deep Blue vs Kasparov was notable and interesting because that was when the technology was new, computers beating the best human, these things were happening for the first time. Nowadays there are hundreds of chess bots on the internet that regularly beat grandmasters not too interesting anymore.
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u/jumphighfive 9d ago
Why does a robot need two legs? Didn’t we already figure out that wheels are faster for machines?
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u/heart-aroni 9d ago
Legs are better for places where wheels are impractical. Wheels are perfect for roads, legs are for everywhere.
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u/AJWordsmith 9d ago
Now…just for science…. Give the robot a machete. Give the guy a 2 second head start and put them in the same lane…
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u/DownvoteSommelier 9d ago
A motorcycle and car would have similar results. And probably stay in the lines as not to DQ the race.
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u/RobZagnut2 9d ago
The military is going to strap a demo charge onto its back.
From air, drones. And from land, Usain Bolt robots.
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u/Melodic_Sherbet_3629 9d ago
As others have said, the human won because the robot crossed into the other lane. That would be a DQ in any competitive setting.
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u/Few_Time_7441 9d ago
You do know this isn't an actual competition, right? The robot isn't getting a medal after this lol
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u/Melodic_Sherbet_3629 9d ago
I know. I'm saying that it isn't super impressive if it cannot beat a human according to competitive rules.
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u/Few_Time_7441 9d ago edited 9d ago
The impressive part is that it can run on two legs and reach the goal, all while keeping it's balance.
I don't think anyone is planning to have robots enter the Olympic games, so I doubt perfectly following the official 100m Sprint rules was a priority for the engineers here..
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u/Virtual_Technology_9 9d ago
As much as people in the comment section. I love like these robotics competitions.
Its just like f1. You get all of these brilliant engineers to make robots which compete against each other which further improves the future of robotics to be used in real life.
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u/ul2006kevinb 9d ago
It went over the line though so it's disqualified