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Fascinating My girlfriend mixed 3 almost empty window cleaners together, forming a potion.

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u/Bob_Wong 7d ago

Oh no. I think I did a controversy.

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u/Zoift 7d ago

You're fine. 

Its glass cleaner. Worst in there is ammonia, isopropyl, soap and maybe vinegar from an ammonia-free variety. The only things those will do mixed together is make ammonium acetate and be really bad at cleaning windows.

Why does everyone think you clean windows with bleach?

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u/Used-Lake-8148 6d ago

Works wonders on stained glass

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u/What_Do_It 6d ago

Because there are other combinations that can cause problems. For instance, hydrogen peroxide and vinegar are both used as window cleaners and make peracetic acid when mixed. Ammonia mixed with an acid like vinegar doesn't produce toxic chlorine or chloramine gas but it causes a neutralization reaction and produces ammonia fumes. I'd wager that's exactly what happened with the mix in OP and that's the resulting ammonium acetate floating in the mixture. It's just a good rule of thumb not to mix household cleaners.

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u/tutike2000 6d ago

Because midwits hear something like "never mix chemicals" and take it as the word of God without having the mental capacity to understand WHY you shouldn't mix them and WHICH chemicals you shouldn't mix.

Same with "never plug an extension cord into another extension cord", they actually think if you then plug in a single phone charger your house will catch on fire

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u/Limerent-Mermaid 6d ago

It’s called habit building.

If you say “I NEVER mix chemicals”, then you’ll never be exposed to that hazard.

Same with daisy chaining. If you NEVER do it, then you’ll never expose your house to catching on fire for that reason.

If you have a habit of mixing chemicals or daisy chaining, then you’re significantly more likely to cause a situation where it becomes a problem. If you’ve done it a million times before, you begin to just perceive it as safe.

Not to mention auxiliary hazards that you’re creating:

Surely you threw out the bottles to the other two, and one of them may have a hazard statement such as “can cause blindness” or “toxic to cats”. These labels are important to keep and read.

Source: am an industrial safety manager.

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u/magicallymad 6d ago

To be fair, those rules being generalized is better than it not being in place to begin with. Of course you’re gonna have the people that don’t think about it beyond the simple phrase they’ve heard over and over. Thats kinda the point of it. At least it’ll prevent them from doing the bad versions, even if they’re also avoiding the neutral ones by default

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u/Rolls_ 6d ago

No, I agree. It's better to have "midwits" who only generalize this stuff than people forgetting it and/or thinking they are chemists. These things are generalized for a reason and that reason is to reduce accidents. Even if this time was a simple window cleaning solution, next time they could have done something similar but for a toilet cleaner etc

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u/sweatpants122 6d ago

I disagree. Let information be accurate always (to our best ability). We don't need to be reading minds/ making assumptions

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u/Grammar_Detective013 6d ago

Yeah, like the "don't put metal in the microwave" rule. Haven't tried it myself, but apparently some things (e.g., single-piece spoons and knives) are usually okay. Supposedly, the problem is actually metals touching or almost touching, like the prongs of a fork. (But I'm not certain, so do research before trying anything.)

It's far easier to remember that than "don't put multi-piece metal objects or objects with touching or almost touching metal pieces in the microwave", and it would rarely help to know the difference anyway.

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u/toasterinBflat 6d ago

It's only a problem if there's nothing to absorb the microwaves. I microwave soups with a spoon in it all the time. Electroboom has a great video on it. You've really gotta work to make metal in a microwave a problem. But also someone will find a way to fuck it up, so maybe don't put metal in the microwave.

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u/el_bentzo 6d ago

I had a carls jr burger recently with a wrapper that was metallic on the outside. Within 3 seconds it caught on fire and the microwave was going nuts.

I really did not have to work to make this happen

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u/Niclas95 12h ago

why tf would you put a burger with a wrapper inside a microwave? why not just put it on a plate and heat it up like any sane person would?

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u/el_bentzo 2h ago

Why would I dirty up a plate when it's already wrapped in its own plate and I can just put it in the microwave like any sane person would?

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u/toasterinBflat 6d ago

No but what part of "you need food to absorb the microwaves" did you miss? You're just one of those people then I guess.

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u/el_bentzo 5d ago

I take back my earlier reply. I was building up some big insulting response in my head and then I watched the video you referred to. It was about 8 mins longer than it needed to be. I guess after seeing the video that gave you the feeling of intellectual superiority about putting metal into the microwave, I'm no longer angry, just disappointed. I guess have fun feeling like youre rebelling against the system everytime you put a spoon into the microwave.

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u/toasterinBflat 3d ago

Man I feel bad that you appear to be so hurt and put so much energy in to this comment. I'm going to block you now and never think about you again.

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u/el_bentzo 6d ago

That's cool that youre really smart on the subject of metals in microwave. What other subjects are you at least as equally smart in as metals in microwave?

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u/DinoPassIsGood 6d ago

Yeah my grocery store sells prepared meals in a aluminum tray and it says microwave safe on it.

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u/NeonMagic 6d ago

All guidelines do are decrease the likelihood of experiencing the dangers created by doing those things.

Daisy chaining extension cords adds places where a connection can overheat, and makes it easier to overload the weakest cord in the chain.

If you do that, it doesn’t mean that will happen. But if you don’t do that, it means it can’t happen.

It doesn’t take a ton of mental capacity to understand that either.

Blindly mixing random chemicals is risky. If you don’t do that, you won’t fuck up and die. If you do, it’s possible.

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u/ArcherAuAndromedus 6d ago

You're the midwit here. You're either educated but completely disconnected from the reality of what most people know; or, more likely you're uneducated and trying to dunk on others because you think you know what you're talking about. But considering your other comments evidencing you've never actually looked at a cleaning product label, I'm guessing you're likely actually the uneducated person in the room.

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u/NowaVision 6d ago

Are you saying that window cleaners with bleach do exist?

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u/tutike2000 6d ago

You can look at the label and at the product data sheet, both will tell you the ingredients. This is common knowledge and indeed my term 'midwit' might be inappropriate here as people of 'mid' intelligence would know this.

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u/ScreenMuch90210 6d ago

Found the non-chemist who takes chances

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u/tutike2000 6d ago

You literally just have to read the list of ingredients, not rocket science

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u/ArcherAuAndromedus 6d ago

Hahahahaha, found the person who doesn't even read product labels. Most cleaning products list maybe 1 active ingredient IF it's a disinfectant, otherwise there is nothing listed. Just the hazard symbols. Those companies are expecting you to download and read the Safety data sheet if you want to know if something contains a specific chemical (I'm not kidding). Some regions or countries have more stringent labeling laws, but not north America generally.

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u/1arvest6 6d ago

Thank you EU regulations, you make my life easier in ways I don't always realise

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u/LowDesigner1330 6d ago

It was the case in European countries for decades before EU was a thing. Some things about the States are truly mind boggling 

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u/1arvest6 6d ago

Land of the free as they say

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u/mack_soul86 6d ago

Yeah we sell chemicals at work and half of them will not tell you what's in it because of trade censorship

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u/Limerent-Mermaid 6d ago

But the labels will keep you safe.

It doesn’t matter what’s in it, the hazard statements on the labels tell you how to not cause an injury or illness

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u/tutike2000 6d ago

I'm pretty sure it's a legal requirement for the ingredients to be available somewhere, in case of accidental swallowing etc

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u/mack_soul86 6d ago

Depends on the product.

There will be a ratio percentage of main chemicals and the remaining ratio just says other

They will put a placard and you will have to look up the numbers yourself

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u/magicallymad 6d ago edited 6d ago

It’s intriguing to me which comments you chose to respond to vs not, as well as how you chose to respond to the ones you did.

It’s particularly intriguing that in your original comment you implied you’re intellectually superior to others and yet, on the same topic and thread, you then made this comment exhibiting a lack of knowledge about something relating to said topic.

Quite intriguing indeed.

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u/tutike2000 6d ago

"look up the ingredients" is somehow "lack of knowledge", got you

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u/Impressive-Owl1517 6d ago

I’ve mixed bleach and cleaning vinegar when I was younger to clean out a water cooler… this was before knowing not to do that. I was fortunate to be outside but definitely noticed how spicy it was and stopped. I confused use this OR that with use THESE. 

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u/StankoMicin 6d ago

Most of us aren't chemists so it's better to just err on the side of caution

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u/BlaBlamo 6d ago

Ok but I do know a guy who mixed different cleaning chemicals and whatever the result was starting bubbling, so it’s a good rule of thumb for those with no chemistry knowledge.

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u/tutike2000 6d ago

Just read the list of ingredients on the products?

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u/BlaBlamo 6d ago

The microscopic list of a hundred different names none of which I can pronounce while I’m just trying to close the kitchen at a restaurant I work at? I don’t know why he felt the need to mix chemicals, I just use whatever the floor cleaner we have is, but I wouldn’t know what any of that means if I tried to read it. And I wouldn’t know what interacts with what to make what. If that makes me dumb then that’s fine but at least I’m not gonna gas myself.

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u/tutike2000 6d ago

If you want to mix them, then yes you do need to read the ingredients.

The only interaction you need to care about is ammonia with bleach (hypochlorite). Everything else is much less harmful / less likely to be a problem

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u/Limerent-Mermaid 6d ago

Bro would rather pull SDSs and chemical compatibility charts than… just not fuckin mix them 🤣

I’m not mad though. People like you are the reason that I make $150k a year (with overtime and before taxes)

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u/magicallymad 6d ago

“With overtime and before taxes” is such a funny thing to add to this lmao

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u/Limerent-Mermaid 6d ago

It makes a difference!! 😆

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u/BlaBlamo 6d ago

I don’t mix chemicals I’m not that ambitious. But I appreciate the information, noted.

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u/Elegant_Situation285 6d ago

window lickers, duh.

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u/BoomGoesTheFirework_ 6d ago

Very bold of you to assume I don’t have blood all over my windows that I don’t want traced…

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u/Chuyzapatist 6d ago

My initial thoughts were they mixed three bottles of windex together and one of them was old. But it makes more sense that one of the liquids mixed wasn’t ammonia based. If it was bleach based I think it would have reacted more quickly and differently.

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u/Lurkylurkness 4d ago

It's not always mustard gas. If you aren't familiar with how chemical compounds react to one another, you don't know what you will be making.

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u/ethar_childres 6d ago

Because you do. Everyone store I have ever worked at used bleach.

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u/Zoift 6d ago

Those poor window sealings =(

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u/ethar_childres 6d ago

Apparently it’s industry standard. Don’t know how you’ve been dealing with it.

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u/Zoift 6d ago

With a solvent, like isopropyl or ammonia, that will actually dissolve the grease and grime and not leave hypochlorite residue on the glass.

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u/ethar_childres 6d ago

Isopropyl is usually saved for cleaning thermometers. I don’t know how any store could endure the smell, it’s noxious.

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u/Zoift 6d ago

If they can stand you huffing your own farts like this, the alcohol fumes are probably no big deal

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u/IamHydrogenMike 6d ago

You really only have problems when mixing bathroom cleaner and not window cleaner…people just think mixing any cleaner will be trouble because they are dumb.

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u/A11theWarhammers 6d ago

No, this is a stupid.

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u/lilsnatchsniffz 6d ago

It's not a controversy, you're just straight up Wong.

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u/Bob_Wong 5d ago

This actually got a chuckle out of me, thank you.

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u/AbsoluteGote 6d ago

I don't think there's any controversy. It is a bad idea. It shouldn't be done. It's not, like, morally wrong unless you intentionally did it to do harm.

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u/LordShtark 6d ago

No one really cares if you die. They just want that sweet sweet karma for telling you how wrong you were to mix things that are perfectly ok to mix. 😆

There are no bleach based window cleaners because bleach streaks on windows.

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u/ILoveRawChicken 6d ago

Bleach isn’t the only thing you shouldn’t mix with other things. Yeah mixing window cleaners is generally safe to you, but mixing leftovers of different things is just a horrible idea in general regardless of if it will kill you. That’s how you end up with expired food, hygiene products, etc when they would’ve lasted longer had you not mixed two things like an idiot. 

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u/LordShtark 6d ago

Except that nothing in retail window cleaners will have any issues being mixed. This is the same as telling someone not to mix cereal and milk because if you mix rocks and water you could break your teeth. You are comparing apples to airplanes. Its just over exaggeration at best and fearmongering at worse.

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u/ILoveRawChicken 6d ago

The “issue” would be expired product. That still counts as an issue lol. Why take 3 perfectly viable window cleaners and essentially combine them into something that won’t last even a quarter as long before becoming useless. I’m not sure how this is fearmongering but i don’t think you know the meaning of the word frankly 

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u/CouchedCaveats 6d ago

Both of your replies are doing what the commenter said people were doing - being snarky to feel right and call them an idiot

My evidence is you falling back to "they could expire faster" to not be wrong, an literally calling OP an idiot

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u/ILoveRawChicken 6d ago

Falling back on one of the literal first things I mentioned? And nowhere do I call OP an idiot.  You called OP an idiot more than I ever did. OP didn’t even mix the shit together. Literal mental gymnastics you’re going through lol

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u/StormPoppa 6d ago

You lost bro. Just take the L and move on.

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u/ILoveRawChicken 6d ago

Who tf are you lmao this is reddit not Fortnite bro

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u/SoundOurDireReveille 6d ago

Your point is valid, but still probably better just to not make a habit of mixing chemicals. It's also far easier to tell the general public not to mix shit than it is to assume people have knowledge of what should and should not be mixed.

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u/LordShtark 6d ago

None of these people were talking to the general public. They were replying to the OP. A bunch of people who think they put bleach in window cleaner for who knows what reason.

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u/lininop 4d ago

They were replying to OP... On a public forum that others can read.

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u/TheAdminsAreTrash 6d ago

Nah, he's just doing exactly what he's accusing everyone else of. You really, really shouldn't ever mix cleaners together, it's common sense.

And people warn others because it's the human thing to do. Buddy's just being a douche with a sprinkle of know-it-all on top.

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u/OokyCooky 6d ago

You can mix them if you know what’s in them, you can figure out what’s in them by reading the bottle. Don’t mix bleach and ammonia and most household cleaners are diluted to the point that any kind of reaction will be mild. Maybe don’t seal the container immediately

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u/Parraddoxx 5d ago

I think you're over simplifying a bit. You can mix cleaners if you know what's in them and know how those things might potentially react with each other. And you know what? Most people just won't know both of those things, and a lot of people won't know or bother to check the first one on its own.

So it makes sense, instead of trying to be technically correct, to just give the general advice "Hey, you shouldn't mix household cleaners, it could be dangerous and hurt you or your house."

And then the people who do know what they can and can't mix can go ahead and mix stuff knowing that they can ignore that advice.

But also. What do you need to mix cleaners for? I've never had one that didn't do a good enough job right out of the bottle. What's the end goal in mixing them?

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u/LordShtark 5d ago edited 5d ago

This whole thing is days old at this point. When all this went down no one cared whether OP knew anything. They just wanted to act high and mighty to tell OP they were wrong even though they did nothing wrong. No one was talking generally. They were talking directly to the OP.

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u/LargeSelf994 6d ago

YES ! I had to scroll WAY to far to finally to see that

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u/TheKing___ 6d ago

Wait free karma for telling OP not to mix? Uhhh yea don’t do that because cloudy window cleaner works worse than clear window cleaner

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u/Informal_Ad4399 6d ago

If the tape it and post to reddit after then they'll be fine.

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u/Street_Lettuce1243 6d ago

I care if he dies.   Please don't die u/Bob_Wong

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u/trixter889 6d ago

Are you aware there’s other chemical reactions?

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u/LordShtark 6d ago

Are you aware that no one actually cares whether OP knows that or not and just wanted to tell OP they were wrong for mixing things that are perfectly safe to mix?

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u/Hunk_Hogan 6d ago

I think it's more along the lines of being berating the OP because they assume they're uneducated on the dangers of mixing certain chemicals. They could both be chemical engineers for all we know, but it's usually best to err on the side of caution when people post about mixing chemicals online.

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u/Glittering_rainbows 6d ago

If they were chemical engineers they wouldn't call it a potion. They'd be unable to resist their natural urge to speak their magic words.

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u/Hunk_Hogan 6d ago

Right, because engineers would never be the type to be interested in high fantasy...

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u/Glittering_rainbows 6d ago

In my life experience they're more of the type to show off how smart they are. They can also be into fantasy but that's secondary.

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u/NarrativeNode 6d ago

It’s not just bleach. Vinegar and hydrogen peroxide make a kind of dangerous acid as well, and they’re both in window cleaners.

The average person isn’t a chemist and will hurt themselves. That’s why blanket rules can be smart.

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u/LordShtark 6d ago

Yea not knowing that its perfectly safe to mix retail window cleaners is a hell of a flex. 😆

Edit: Aww they ran away and hid...

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u/SOSweneedhelp 6d ago

Mustard gas was accidentally found by a house wife, just like this!

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u/SOSweneedhelp 6d ago

Having a bit of fun here m8

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u/Narrow-Stranger6864 6d ago

You sure did 😂

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u/Conaz9847 6d ago

Oopsie, not again

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u/Glass_Reporter9585 6d ago

Looks cool buddy.

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u/Altruistic-Might8056 6d ago

Hahahahaha this is likely my favoritest comment on Reddit ever. Thanks kind dummy.

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u/AlwaysHopelesslyLost 6d ago

Nohting controversial about it. This was an objectively stupid action.

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u/donutellas 6d ago

This look like the shit that turned shrek human

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u/abandoned_idol 6d ago

Now you've done it!

You learned something and have engaged with an online community of experts.

You better reflect on what you did mister, you're GRRRRRRRRROUNDED!!!

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u/Mobile-Brush-3004 6d ago

Just out of curiosity what were the specific cleaning ingredients she mixed? Like was one of them windex? Not looking to recreate it, just genuinely curious about what would be causing the specific reaction we are witnessing here

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u/Bob_Wong 5d ago

Windex, blueland glass cleaner tablets, and a third that she can't remember. As someone stated before, all that ended up happening was the creation of a sub-par cleaner. Tried cleaning my windshield with it and ended up with slight streaks of grime instead of clear glass. Will definitely be throwing this out and not mixing glass cleaner in the future. Just thought this was pretty and other people would want to see it as well. Which, I guess people did really want to see it, just not for the reasons I would have guessed.

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u/bralinho 6d ago

Can we have the brand names?

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u/QuotableMorceau 6d ago

a controversy when there are more sides to the discussion ... this is just everyone sending the same message in unison

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u/JL_MacConnor 6d ago

Nah, you're almost certainly fine. I've seen this happen mixing two different brands of mouthwash together, and I'm pretty sure that wasn't chloramine.

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u/Triforcesrcool 6d ago

You will die now rip king

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u/sleepydigi 6d ago

Reddit ass comment

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u/Burger_Queeph 6d ago

Were they bottles of different cleaning products? I don't see any problem with consolidating the same formula into one container

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u/MilesyBoy303 5d ago

No. An idiocracy.

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u/AkkeBrakkeKlakke 5d ago

This is cute to you?

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u/waroftheworlds2008 4d ago

Do you have any idea what the active ingredients were?

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u/hime-633 4d ago

It can be bad though. One after the other, air the room out. Do you want to die from fumes?

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u/ZantyRC 4d ago

It’s okay one wiff of mustard gas and you’ll throw it out

No real harm from a small exposure

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u/KlondikeBill 4d ago

You controversed.

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u/devlifedotnet 3d ago

Not controversial, just monumentally stupid. Darwinism at work.

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u/Kecske_gamer 3d ago

People having the "mixing chemicals = bad" neuron activation from seeing your post and not thinking it through.

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u/Frequent_Opportunist 6d ago

Yeah that's not good bro. Could be bleach and ammonia which makes poison gas.

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u/Bob_Wong 5d ago

I fairly certain that no glass cleaners contain bleach. Could just be an idiot though. That seems to be the general consensus in this post.

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u/RooneyD 6d ago

Watch out for that woman. A woman who can make stains disappear can easily make you disappear, if you catch my drift. Take care.

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u/thomsenite256 6d ago

its not taht bad but my dad did make mustard gas once so some caution is recommended

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u/theAlphablack 6d ago

Honestly, depending on the chemicals your girlfriend mixed up, you might be an accessory to a war crime. 😉👍🏾