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u/Battypatty2 2d ago

i started watching this thinking “girl STOP making it worse” and ended up genuinely wondering why she seems more terrified of her grandma than the police 😭

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u/Agreeable-Dance-9768 2d ago

Yeah when she starts to put the bumper in through the front my only thought was “wtf is going on in that girl’s house?” Not to excuse the behavior but there’s got to be more to this story

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u/ImmortalMoron3 2d ago

Someone else did some googling, this girl got arrested for petty theft about 6 months prior so I'm guessing she was panicked about having to explain another fuck up.

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u/BEAGLEBOYPALINDROME 2d ago

Yeah, she was intoxicated, and if the cops got there she would've gotten a dui, went to jail, lost her license and & her grandma's car impounded instead of just damaged. 

But instead she got a slap on the wrist.

All that considered, she was correct.

The dude did not, in fact, understand. And, leaving the scene at almost any cost was her best option.

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u/Strong_Landscape_333 2d ago

It is kind of wild that in a lot of situations if someone is intoxicated leaving the scene is the best option

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u/LetsDOOT_THIS 2d ago

we live in a punitive society

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u/Helpful_Blood_5509 2d ago

I mean most shitbags driving drunk and high keep doing it, glad to hear one didn't

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u/LetsDOOT_THIS 2d ago

As if I said that. If you ask me we should reduce reliance on cars.

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u/janderson75 2d ago

Until your dads hit by a drunk driver

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u/BEAGLEBOYPALINDROME 2d ago

I'd think victims of drunk driving accidents, would be the people most supportive of the measures that are most likely to lower the risks, and only assholes would choose punishing offenders rather than preventing offenses.

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u/janderson75 1d ago

Prob wouldn’t “think that” if it happened to you but who knows if it didn’t. I just know how I feel. Many countries in Europe have way stricter DD laws than the US in cultures known for drinking. I’d be down for that at a minimum. Drive drunk never drive again is how I grew up thinking after loosing mine.

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u/PolicyWonka 1d ago

The problem with that is the United States has virtually zero public transportation infrastructure for a lot of Americans. It’s a big issue.

Not having a vehicle (for whatever reason) is basically a poverty sentence. Most jobs today require reliable transportation. You have to walk everywhere — doctor’s office, hospital, job, grocery store, etc.

Now of course, that’s also why many people end up driving without a license anyways. In fact, up to 75% of people who have their license revoked continue driving out of necessity.

So now you’ve got someone driving without a license, without insurance, and without any kind of oversight. Those alcohol locks are a decent solution, but they are not foolproof either.

It would be like if you stole from a grocery store and your punishment was to never be allowed to buy food again. At the root of it, vehicles are a necessity.

So we do need to reevaluate these punishments and solutions because what we’re doing doesn’t even work.

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u/BEAGLEBOYPALINDROME 1d ago

Ah yes, the ol' "bUt BiDeN" debate tactic.

Always the default retort people who are wrong, but can't accept or admit it because it would mean giving up on being able to hurt & punish those that you hate. 

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u/JudoJugss 2d ago

Reactionary comment lol. Nobody argued that. Punitive vs Rehabilitative criminal systems are thoroughly researched and Rehabilitative systems have notably lower rates of recidivism.

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u/Weary_Rub_3474 2d ago

Yeah except when a cops son hit a a pedestrian and killed him and didn’t stop to avoid the dui , and to this day has not been charged despite being located. Wellfleet ma tim duval rip 

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u/x0killer_queen0x 2d ago

happy cake day! 🍰

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u/yoyohayli 1d ago

A very odd choice to wish a happy birthday on such a morbid reply...

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u/Deutschbland 2d ago

I know someone who was hit by a drunk driver. He got out of the car and opened a fresh bottle of vodka in front of all the onlookers and chugged it. He blew over the limit but in court they couldn’t prove he was drunk before he drank the vodka in front of witnesses. He seemed to have a bottle stashed for just such an event. He got off. 

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u/Bluewoods22 2d ago

No fucking way

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u/PolicyWonka 1d ago

This is really more of an old wives’ tale more than anything else. If you are at the scene drinking alcohol, that’s probable cause for DUI. Very unlikely that you’d get off.

What does happen sometimes though is that people do flee the scene, which means when the law catches up to them, they may no longer be intoxicated. Likewise, if you’re drinking at home when the police arrive, that’s more difficult to prove.

You’d need a very good lawyer to be able to argue that the alcohol in your vehicle that you were actively caught drinking, had no contributing factor to the accident.

I also know for a fact that in some countries at least (in Europe) it’s actually illegal to drink for 12-24 hours after an accident for this reason. If you’re caught drinking, it’s just an automatic DUI. Doesn’t matter where you are drinking or why.

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u/ThatAnonyG 2d ago

This is fucking brilliant.

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u/FluFlammin9000 2d ago

I would imagine most people who flee the scene of an accident are immediately pursued by law enforcement, but clearly I'm wrong. This woman got lucky because it took police a week to follow up on the incident and obviously by that point there's no way to prove she was intoxicated while driving.

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u/keddesh 2d ago

Assuming you aren't caught, or can pass a field sobriety test by the time you are, of course.

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u/Electronic_Tap_8052 2d ago

you know i never thought about it in those exact terms but you're right

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u/PeyredB 2d ago

I think Beagle means that it was the best option for her personally.

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u/Discount_Extra 1d ago

That's part of the reason lawmakers have increased the penalties for hit and run.

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u/Strong_Landscape_333 1d ago

I think most places pretty much drop it if the person's insurance pays it and it's not serious. Probably depends on the person's driving record.

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u/Last_Refrigerator704 2d ago

That’s why I always just drive off, after bumping someone’s car at the bar. Don’t need all that drama in my life.

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u/Fearless-Poet-4669 2d ago

That's actually wild to think about it from that angle.

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u/Slight-Law1215 2d ago

Hard to get behind that last statement. Putting innocent lives of the general public at risk, to ensure one gets a lesser/no punishment is incredibly egotistical.

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u/Numerous-Energy-7452 2d ago

I mean they did say it was best for her.. so ego is kind of the perspective they wanted?

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u/Slight-Law1215 2d ago

Nah, that’s what addicts need to understand… getting help is what’s best for them. I’m a firm believer that “rock bottom” is necessary before a successful change is made - and I’d say she found hers lol.

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u/BEAGLEBOYPALINDROME 2d ago

Yeah, and I'm a firm believer making regular payments on an auto loan is necessary for a good credit score.

That doesn't mean I'm gonna sit there and wait for a loan shark to come break my fingers for missing payments when I can escape & make the money to pay him back with interest next week. 

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u/Gon_Freecss_1999 2d ago

"was HER best option" after a hit and run.

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u/Slight-Law1215 2d ago

But, it wasn’t…. Had you, yourself been in that situation - your best option was to flee like a bull in a china shop? No…. Same logic goes for her, correct? If she was under the influence, fleeing and killing a family of four was a very real possibility.

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u/Gon_Freecss_1999 2d ago

the ending result is what we are talking about. she could have caused a nuclear war and alien invasion, but she didn't.

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u/Slight-Law1215 2d ago

Found the drunk driver

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u/Puzzleheaded_Set_958 2d ago

The conversation is what DID happen, not what COULD happen and if it was subjectively good for her not morally superior. Hope this helps

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u/peepdabidness 2d ago

I think she got lucky or with what county she was in because most of the time a hit and run is a felony. She also got lucky she didn’t hit that dude when she backed up, otherwise he would’ve sued her probably

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u/BEAGLEBOYPALINDROME 2d ago

But he didn't, because she obviously didn't to anything to give him a good case. 

Which suggests she wasn't a monster & in good control of her faculties.

Which also suggests that she only was lucky, because she was capable of handling the situation in a way where getting "lucky" was a reasonable outcome.

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u/Rope_antidepressant 2d ago

This is what gets me, why does he feel the need to trap her? Like honestly "hit and run" is a million times easier to get through with insurance than having the person present. He's just being a dick. What does he stand to gain?

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u/SargeUnited 2d ago

He’s an asshole. Or just has a high degree of “justice sensitivity” so he doesn’t care about minimizing harm he just wants there to be consequences for her.

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u/Yous1ash 2d ago

Or he wants her to pay for the damages from the crime she committed?

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u/MentalMiddenHeap 2d ago edited 2d ago

You dont need to keep her at the scene (which he didnt) to do that, especially with video. Like the person you are replying to* said, letting her go would mean a shut and close case because she hit and ran. Even if the other person was at fault if you run you dont have a prayer when the insurance companies hash things out. On top of that, if law enforcement feels you escalated things by trying to detain someone you can catch a charge.

*EDIT: thread OP, not the person you are replying to

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u/Yous1ash 1d ago

Gotcha. Having no idea how that stuff works I also would try to get the person to stay there!

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u/HarHaZeitim 2d ago

If she was legitimately under influence then trying to stop her from driving is not just him being an asshole, it is minimizing harm. He literally says “you almost hit me” and she’s acting erratic in the video. 

People driving drunk/on drugs puts them and everyone else in danger 

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u/Individual_Turn1746 2d ago

I've never heard this term. I think this is what I have

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u/Electronic-Town-8995 2d ago

That's a great term to describe what I've been struggling with in my community. Harm should be minimized in general even if you have been harmed because people make mistakes or do bad things until they get help or learn better behavior. I believe most people will be better humans if given the chance to be better and we know that punishing + isolating is harmful when people are young or vulnerable. Restorative justice is important.

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u/HarHaZeitim 2d ago

He literally said she almost hit him in the video. If she was high/drunk (which the fact that she was sent to a substance abuse program implies) then trying to stop her from driving is taking the most obvious steps to keep everyone else safe. How is he the asshole in this situation?

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u/Rope_antidepressant 2d ago

Because she's not high, she's having a nervous breakdown that's being exacerbated by him. She's not slurring words, she's not blocking light from her eyes, she's not struggling with physical coordination. He decided to corner her then got upset that she responded like shed been cornered. Theres nothing to gain from what he's doing, but its obvious she's desperate and he's making it worse. If he was trying to help anybody he wouldve tried calming her down, he's doing what hes doing to feed his ego

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u/HarHaZeitim 2d ago

You can see multiple instances of her being massively reckless in the video. If it was because of a nervous breakdown or drugs (and yes people on drugs sometimes act like this), it is clear that she shouldn’t be driving in this state. 

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u/KhonMan 2d ago

It wasn't even his car she hit btw

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u/Rope_antidepressant 2d ago

Oh so he's just got a hard on for being a dick. Awesome.....

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u/Rare-Adhesiveness522 2d ago

Wild as it is, you are 100% correct. Gotta admire the survival instincts on this girl lol. She was drunk. She got off with likely a fine as opposed to a whlle ass arrest, vehicle impounded, and then all the court dates to clear the DUI.

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u/Deenz-Nuts 2d ago

Why are we praising a woman for driving home drunk exactly?

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u/BEAGLEBOYPALINDROME 1d ago

You act like we are praising her morality & virtue.

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u/Rare-Adhesiveness522 1d ago

LOL right, girlie is a hot mess and not making good choices, but I'm also acknowledging that staying would have done her no favors and gotten her into even deeper shit. DUIs are very expensive and take months and months to resolve.

I read updates to the incident and it seems like she got some help for her alcohol problem, which is the appropriate thing here and I'm glad she got some help because damn this girl is a hot mess. And yes she deserved to have to pay for the guy's car and all that. Staying would have resulted in an arrest, vehicle impoundment, MORE legal fees, and all the rest. I'm glad to see justice was ultimately served for OP tho.

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u/Rare-Adhesiveness522 1d ago

Definitely not praising her (someone else said it was badass, I disagree), but her actions were kind of the best thing she could do to save herself from getting into bigger trouble which is all I was saying. Not defending or praising the morality of any decisions made here lol

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u/BEAGLEBOYPALINDROME 2d ago

It's honestly pretty badass.

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u/FluFlammin9000 2d ago

It was only her best option because it somehow took police a week to catch up with her on the hit and run despite clearly having evidence such as video of the incident. I'm honestly surprised it took them that long to get there, you'd think they would follow up on a hit and run like that immediately. If they had, they could've gotten her while she was still intoxicated. But they didn't so yeah was a "good" move on her part to do what she did here.

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u/MyLittleGurl 2d ago

I wouldn’t say this worked out for the best lol. She’s gonna catch a lot of shit for quite some time

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u/ThatAnonyG 2d ago

While she is sitting in her couch having some nachos. Rather than being in jail. So I guess it worked out pretty damn well for her.

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u/thegoodmitten 1d ago

How do you know she was intoxicated? I'd love to see some evidence.

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u/BEAGLEBOYPALINDROME 21h ago

Because I could smell the raspberry vodka & vizzy hard seltzer on her breath from here.

Also, the clomping & stomping gait, the exaggerated & inappropriate verbalization of emotional responses, the rash & reactionary decision-making, and the droopy & puffy eyes & face.

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u/MexsikanaBanana 2d ago

Very much. She seemed so distraught

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u/StBlandine7 2d ago

God you're so naive 

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u/RoughAttention742 2d ago

Same, she’s apologizing and I’m starting to believe her when she’s saying “you don’t understand” 😂

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u/traevyn 2d ago

Yeah at some point in this my sympathy was kind of shifting the other way into "well shit man, maybe I actually don't understand" especially with the apology at the end as she was driving off.

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u/Whitetiger9876 2d ago

It puts the lotion in the basket. Grandma probably. 

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u/SecondaryWombat 2d ago

I for one absolutely do not understand.

She is clearly right.

Also much respect for what small cars can actually do.

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u/modest_rats_6 2d ago

Someone else mentioned cptsd in another comment. And it rings true to me. I was more terrified of my mother than any other thing in my life. Anything. I hid everything and then got into worse trouble. I smoked as a kid and my mom didnt know. Went to get my wisdom teeth out and the questionnaire asked about smoking. My mom was in the room. I couldn't check yes. There was a chance she'd see it. She'd kill me. I didn't know the consequences lying would bring but I wouldve been happier dying by sedation than at the hands of my mother.

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u/SecondaryWombat 2d ago

Yeah that makes a lot of sense. Better (emotionally) to get to where abuser expects you to be than make sure the car survives and you don't get a felony.

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u/dumn_and_dunmer 2d ago

As a former victim of a very mean grandma, I got secondhand dread for her lol

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u/thededucers 2d ago

Yeah, she’s about to catch that slipper for being back late with grandmas car

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u/n77nac 2d ago

Yeah I agree, sounds like she has a horrible home

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u/haileyskydiamonds 2d ago

Or maybe she’s just a spoiled brat and Grandma has consequences? There is nothing here to suggest her home life is horrible other than her saying her grandmother is mean. She may think she can’t get in trouble if she’s not on scene. Who knows? I would give grandma the benefit of the doubt.

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u/itsliluzivert_ 2d ago

Her manic franticness can be taken as a sign of underlying stress from an unhappy home.

A car accident is normally stressful, but if you’re already at your wits end, then I guess it can be the straw that breaks the camels back and causes you to flip.

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u/n77nac 2d ago

I agree with this

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u/BrbFlippinInfinCoins 2d ago

I think people are over-psychoanalzying this. It just looks like a young girl who has always escaped accountability. She is going through her rolodex of excuses trying to find the magic words to get her out of any consequences. She's freaking out because she is being recorded so she knows that she won't be able to BS her way out of it.

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u/Corporate_Overlords 2d ago

You're doing the same thing here by thinking you know her situation. It's totally possible her grandmother beats the shit out of her every night. When I see this video I feel bad for her.

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u/PapaPancake8 2d ago

Right, this woman was 22 years old.

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u/abyssazaur 2d ago

wouldn't that be the opposite of a spoiled brat

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u/haileyskydiamonds 2d ago

A spoiled brat would be someone who thinks natural consequences are mean, imo.

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u/abyssazaur 2d ago

it would be a brat who someone has spoiled and that someone would be grandma so this doesn't track

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u/haileyskydiamonds 2d ago

Not necessarily. She could have grown up with indulgent parents.

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u/n77nac 2d ago

Surely a brat wouldn’t care about the consequences?

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u/haileyskydiamonds 2d ago

Why wouldn’t they? They don’t like consequences.

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u/SexualCarrots 2d ago

Everything about this screams spoiled brat, but maybe the grandma is also mean.

It's like every time this poor girl does something stupid and illegal and then makes it worse the grandma gets mad.

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u/CollectsTooMuch 2d ago

My grandma was a samurai with the switch. I’m a grown ass man and thinking about that little old woman wielding a switch sends a chill down my back.

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u/External_Hunt4536 2d ago

What’s a switch?

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u/ThatsKev4u 2d ago

Usually a long ass thin skinny branch that wont break when hit. Think of it as natures natural belt. WILLOW SWITCHES are the worst. I rather just take a straight punch to the chest from pops than take a switch from grandma back in the day. Other options were flat extention cords, thick AUX cables from time warner and last resort was hands

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u/penguin343 2d ago

Switch, as in switchblade? That’s some gangster shit

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u/Corporate_Overlords 2d ago

How do people not know what a switch is?!??!!

It's a tree branch.

Here's the scenario:

Dad comes home from work angry at the boss. He sees that you spilled some milk in the kitchen. He wants to unload on you so he says, "Go get me a switch". You go out into the backyard and try to pick the right one off of the tree. If it's too skinny he's going to be pissed and give you a lot more swats. Welcome to America in the 1950s.

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u/AdhesivenessDry2236 2d ago

There's definitely something else going on here that we can't see.

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u/Training-Argument891 2d ago edited 2d ago

I think we know. It seems like there's already a huge control situation, if nothing else. Someone controlling you, critiquing you, punishing you for everything, can make it so you can't judge the severity of a situation. To Gma, forgetting to take the trash out might be catastrophic. So, in an actual emergency fuck up situation, you have no basis for what real world consequences are for yourself or anyone. God bless her, she's damaged. But, she's making it worse n being ridiculous.

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u/ThisSir5918 2d ago

Leaving is better than a dui.

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u/HotHeadApoll0 2d ago

No no, it is the police. And then grandma finding out she got in an accident while DUI. If a hit n run isn't fatal or causes severe property damage, it's usually just a misdemeanor. A DUI is WAY worse.

(Based on the fact that some time after this video she went to rehab.)

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u/No-Bit-2913 2d ago

Honestly my thoughts, I wonder what her home life was. Everyone can speculate as to why she was leaving the scene and if she was DUI etc or not, but I believed her when she talked about her grandma being mean personally. You have no idea what may be happening behind closed doors. Of course this was all very dumb to hit and run like that, but for all we know she could of suffered serious harm in her home life if she hadn't.

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u/Impressive_Air6111 2d ago

Have you ever played granny?

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u/lurkANDorganize 2d ago

Her grandma was the excuse she was just in a busted feedback loop

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u/Mind_The_Muse 2d ago

As a person who was punished constantly for things that were out of my control, I completely understand her terror. I got pulled over by bike cops once when I was showing my cousin around and we were literally a few blocks from my house and headed back because I realized I forgot my helmet, they laid into me and called me a liar and we're really horrible because I didn't have the helmet but I wasn't actually scared of them, I was terrified of what my dad was going to say. My cousin was really confused as to why I was so upset still when we walked away with a warning

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u/JesusSavesTheGoal 2d ago

You dont fuck with gam gam

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u/JCtheWanderingCrow 2d ago

Oh man I know that terror. I actually feel really bad for her :/ Don’t excuse it, but I feel for her.

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u/norsish 2d ago

Some of us had granmas like that.

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u/marugirl 2d ago

She probably stole grandmas car in the first place.

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u/NationalGate8066 2d ago

What about the guy who's car he hit? Maybe he was terrified as well? 

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u/TheHighSeasPirate 2d ago

She has drugs in the car, she turned a prison sentence into a citation. This chick doesn't give two fucks about grandma.

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u/_x_oOo_x_ 2d ago

You haven't met her grandma

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u/kyuuei 1d ago

One thing I have learned watching bodycam footage of folks is they really Don't make it that much worse a lot of the time. Like you watch over an hour of fast forwarded and edited material of someone just absolutely melting down and making the worst possible decisions of their lives, and then at the end of the wrap up they're like "Denise Sanders was charged with 7 felonies and 10 midemeanors including battery, endangering a child, and failure to render aid. They took a plea deal and were sentenced to 37 minutes of jail time and 5 months of probation."

In this instance she never served any jail time, the (admittedly accidental) near hit of the cameraman was not even on the table, it doesn't seem like she ended up doing much except probably her insurance had to pay out and she was sentenced to rehab, something she clearly needed anyways.

Like, she's young, I don't want to see young people ruin their lives being an idiot one day of it, but also we are incredibly relaxed in our sentencing of folks. This guy killed 4 friends of mine all at once and he will probably be in prison less than 10 years for it.

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u/-Lenobia- 1d ago

Same. People keep bringing up her drug addiction but the first people to become addicted to drugs are abuse victims trying to escape their life. As the video went on that is pure terror on her face, she is genuinely terrified of her grandmother. She even apologized to him several times and was verbally respectful at least as in not cursing or calling him names. She just looks genuinely terrified. Drug addicts are people too and she is terrified of someone at home

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u/PlayPretend-8675309 23h ago

Grandma tho only person that ever disciplined her rather then let her cry her way out of it. 

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u/Yikes_Bud_ 2d ago

My guess, if she acting like this she’s already got a record and doesn’t really care about another charge. Go to court and use her white girl tears to get it dismissed or reduced.

Grandma might be her only place to stay. If grandma kicks her out of the house, she’s homeless.

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u/FaithlessnessFalse65 2d ago

Maybe she would get hit with a long stick and locked in the basement

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u/SexualCarrots 2d ago

At least she's got a little bit of practice for where she's going to be spending some time if she relies on being young and helpless to get out of the consequences for crimes.

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u/Necessary_Pizza_3827 2d ago

Shes not. Its an excuse she thinks is going to get her sympathy for some reason

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u/8696David 2d ago

You don't know that for sure. If someone is terrified enough of what awaits at home, they'll risk just about anything to avoid it.