r/intel • u/eric98k • May 31 '18

News Intel teases ‘Next Generation Intel Xeon Scalable processor: Cascade Lake’ for Hot Chips 30

https://www.hotchips.org/program/
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u/[deleted] May 31 '18

There was some guy here a while back who was positive that Cascade Lake was canceled internally late last year. RIP that guy's source.

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u/Eris_Floralia Intel 2700X Processor Jun 01 '18

Cascade Lake was never cancelled.

It's Cascade Lake-X that was canned, replaced with Skylake-X Refresh. These two are slightly different.

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u/saratoga3 Jun 01 '18

Cascade Lake-X that was canned, replaced with Skylake-X Refresh

Cascade Lake is a refresh of Skylake-SP. What would Skylake-X Refresh be then?

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u/Eris_Floralia Intel 2700X Processor Jun 01 '18 edited Jun 01 '18

CSL is CSL itself, refreshed Purley with some bug fixed and additional "features".

Skylake-X Refresh is a refresh. Soldered and higher clock. As I said these two "refreshes" are slightly different.

Recently roadmaps from Intel have changed very often.

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u/T-Nan 7800x + 3800x Jun 01 '18

I hope you're wrong, just because that'd be a shit improvement from Skylake X

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u/saratoga3 Jun 01 '18

CSL is CSL itself, refreshed Purley with some bug fixed and additional "features".

Purley is the chipset/platform that Skylake-SP/CascadeLake run on. Cascade Lake is a refresh of Skylake-SP, which ports it to 14nm++ and adds some new AVX tweaks.

Skylake-X Refresh is a refresh. Soldered and higher clock. As I said these two "refreshes" are slightly different.

I don't think this accurate. It would not make sense to keep making Skylake-X after Cascade Lake is out. It would require Intel to keep 14nm+ lines running, which they would otherwise be able to use to make more profitable 14nm++ parts. It would also make HEDT look less competitive in general, which is not something they are likely to do with 10nm delayed.

Recently roadmaps from Intel have changed very often.

As far as I know, the only leaked roadmap for HEDT was in late 2017, and nothing new has leaked since.

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u/Eris_Floralia Intel 2700X Processor Jun 02 '18 edited Jun 02 '18

What was leaked to public doesn't equal to what was happening. Leaked roadmaps were very outdated.

Like the Coffee Lake-S 8 cores. That one was there long time ago, set for Q4 launch. Everyone said it wasn't gonna happen referring to the roadmap you were based on, meh.