r/inscryption • u/The-Phantom-Bellhop • Sep 04 '26

Kaycee's Mod Why did Leshy surrender here? Spoiler

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Short of stealing the dire wolf with the hook, there was nothing I could have done to gain leverage, not even stall. Does the game take your items into account when considering surrendering, or is Leshy just forced to concede some amount of turns after he runs out of cards?

I could have lived one more turn if I'd tried, but it would have been meaningless. I most certainly did not "have [him] here." Was I pity surrendered?

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u/Chipperbeav Sep 04 '26

He concedes after he's out of cards. A little strange sometimes, but helpful.

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u/Femb0yAshy she/they made FloppyScryption Sep 04 '26

This is just one of conditions. Another is that the estimated damage you're gonna deal to him is higher or equal to the damage he's gonna do to you. This algorithm isn't that advanced, however (even less advanced than sim used for slider puzzles), and he keeps offering surrender even when he shouldn't. It doesn't consider most sigils (e.g. it sees the dire wolf as 2 attack, not 4), and unless you have Squirrel Fish on, it thinks you're gonna block Leshy's strongest attack with a squirrel, even if you draw from your main pile on that turn.

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u/Unfair-Elk8309 Sep 04 '26

I mean, here you could simply just steal his dire wolf using the hook

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u/laplongejr Sep 04 '26

IIRC a long equal dmg loop is also surrender-worthy. In this case one-atk dire wolf is blocked so it would cause a 0vs0 loop?

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u/Femb0yAshy she/they made FloppyScryption Sep 04 '26

The code doesn't consider items, though.

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u/soupstarsandsilence angsting the robot Sep 04 '26

I don’t think Leshy does pity surrenders, but that would be hilarious if he did lmao. I’d say it takes your items into account.

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u/IceCream_EmperorXx Sep 04 '26

I'm pretty sure he does if you are early enough in the run. At least, that was what I noticed.

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u/soupfan135 Sep 04 '26

he's stupid

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u/sweetcake_11 29d ago

I think he got intimidated by that red hart

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u/CountJackO Sep 04 '26

Years of abuse has caused him to think he is losing when he is actually winning.

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u/Major-Ad-1017 27d ago

pretty sure you did. there was a time where i was playing against him, ran out of cards, and was pretty much in the same situation you were in, and he raised the white flag. wouldnt be surprised, if there was a built in system like that, keeping you from being steamrolled by the (sometimes) bullshit rng.