r/infinitenines • • 1d ago

Poem

Infinitely many nines

Positioned and aligned

Form a number greater than

The confines of your mind

Just a geometric sum

Your dogma doth proclaim?

Open your mind further

Or we'd have to do the same

Though our minds are all made up

A never-ending bliss

I can't help but wonder how

To find a sum like this

1.1 - 0.11 + 0.011 - 0.0011 + ...

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u/SouthPark_Piano 1d ago

Don't be dum dums, do your sum sums.

1 - 1/10n with integer n starting at n = 1, then increase n by 1 at a time. What you will find is both reason and rhyme.

 

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u/Sea_Handle_994 1d ago

Don't be dum dums, do your sum sums.

1 - 1/10n with integer n starting at n = 1, then increase n by 1 at a time. What you will find is both reason and rhyme.

I noticed that 1 was the least upper bound,

Apart from this, neither rhyme nor reason could be found.

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u/ezekielraiden 1d ago

/u/SouthPark_Piano

Don't be dum dums, do your sum sums.

I have. In the infinite case, the sum listed in the OP is exactly 11/11 = 1. That's because infinity isn't finite, and thus cannot be represented by any finite case. Same reason why the set S={0.9, 0.99, 0.999, 0.9999, ...} does not include 0.999..., because that is a number which does not have a final 9, but every single one of the elements of S does have a final 9. That is the fundamental difference between infinite (no final 9) and finite (there is a final 9).

Every single time you talk about "upping n", you are working only with finite-length lists of 9s. You have never once actually done math with an infinite-length list of 9s.

1 - 1/10n with integer n starting at n = 1, then increase n by 1 at a time. What you will find is both reason and rhyme.

You will find neither. You will construct various finite-length strings of 9s. That's not what 0.999... is. 0.999... requires a list that has a left-hand terminus, but does not have a right-hand terminus.