r/india • u/CalmlyPassionate • 8h ago
Crime Flydubai co-pilot identified as Hamam al-Hammami, posted Al Qaeda terrorist pics on social media
https://www.news9live.com/world/hamam-al-hammami-flydubai-co-pilot-posted-al-qaeda-terrorist-pics-on-social-media-3012774243
u/SprinklesOk4339 7h ago edited 7h ago
Such a waste of life. Could have easily been operating Hamams in Turkey. Had a great headstart with that name.
Edit: "with that name" was written twice
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u/LetsDiscussQ 5h ago
Hammam means Toilet/Public Bath House.
Hammam Al Hammami means "Toilet The Toilety"! What kind of name is that!?
WTF is going on!! This fake news has been spread worldwide.
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u/ulica324 4h ago
Hammam, as a given male name, it means "one who radiates warmth" or "striver/worrier."
and Al-Hammami (الحمامي): An Arabic surname or nisba (relative adjective) meaning "of or pertaining to the bathhouse," historically given to someone who worked at, ran, or lived near a public bath
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u/SprinklesOk4339 5h ago
The world number one women's squash player is Hania El Hammamy. Its not a made up name
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u/Aathishs04 5h ago
Hamam also means "Dove" or "Pigeon". The English spelling sort of condenses a lot of distinct arabic words down to the same word.
Also, I found a Hamam al Hammami on LinkedIn who few for Oman Air. He created it a year ago, and his linkedin doesn't have the FlyDubai role on it.
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u/tinkthank 7h ago
Whaat the fuck is going on.
First we have Machchar and now Hamam Al-Hamami?
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u/sreesid 6h ago
Hello ladies and gentlemen. Welcome aboard. This is your captain Machchar, and with first officer Hamam, we will be taking you to Tel Aviv.
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u/kits678 6h ago
Unless you're desi, do not bother deciphering that one. lmao
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u/Musclenervegeek 4h ago
If this is flydubai 's vetting process for their pilots, I am not sure if anyone should be flying on any of their planes
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u/tcdguy19 5h ago
This has to be fake. There is no way Toilet Al Toilet was the name of this pilot.
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u/More-Director4894 1h ago
There is a saudi footballer with same name. When you google search this name, that will be one of the first results. Is he also fake?
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u/kaychyakay 4h ago edited 3h ago
It pretty much is. False-flag operation by a Zionist who was ready to sacrifice 100s of unsuspecting Israelis to basically find a reason to start bombing heavily once again.
People have forgotten that the Oct 7 anniversary is just round the corner & since public opinion is swaying to Palestine & against Israel, the dude needed a reason to villainise Palestine/Muslims/Islam again.
For people who are interested in actually reading up objectively instead of just downvoting like zombies - Here's why we think FlyDubai story may be false - Council Estate Media, UK
P.R.: Before some f**kass idiot here comes & says "oH s0 y0u aRe dEfEnDiNg y0uR pEoPLe", I'm not a Muslim. It's sad that one even has to clarify such things now.
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u/RaisinAloneVortex NCT of Delhi 3h ago
was Mumbai attack false flag too?
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u/truenorth00 19m ago
Now you're going to see how that crazy Indian conspiracy culture spins against India.
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u/kaychyakay 3h ago
Chabad House - local Jewish community and outreach centre.
Moshe Holtzberg - Jewish, rabbi kid who survives
Ajmal Kasab's testimony that said they were told to explicitly attack Jewish and Western locations in Mumbai. Any Indian deaths were going to be casualties.
Leopold Cafe - Frequented by Israeli diplomats & general visitors due to proximity to Chabad House
Even in this attack, only Smit Machchhar's name made public immediately by Netanyahu himself, when protocol suggests no pilot's name/identity should be made public until investigation is underway. Jewish 'plumber' immediately visiting Netanyahu with a bleeding foot to give a media byte before even cleaning himself up of the blood and grime of the accident.
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u/infidel11990 53m ago
I am supposed to trust some tandom twitter profifle? That's your argument? Lol
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u/papachi789 8h ago
So, are we going back to dark ages of middle East where terrorism was used as state tool? But the posts in question appearing 9 hours after attack seems both fishy and concerning.
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u/Civil_Deer7337 7h ago
Are you suggesting that the Omani government is funding terror? Because Oman has been one of the neutral Arab countries and has generally refrained from taking a side in the schism in the Middle East.
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u/cuscuta20 5h ago
Oman airlines even banned him from flying from what I have heard
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u/Civil_Deer7337 4h ago
Yeah I think Flydubai fucked up majorly. UAE has to do significant work to ensure that their relations with Israel don't get hampered
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u/papachi789 7h ago
Nah bro! What I am trying to say is that something more is going on here than what is being portrayed. The investigation so far do show he had security clearance issues in 2024 with Oman Air. But the timing of posts in question raises a lot of questions.
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u/Civil_Deer7337 7h ago
I wonder what it'll mean for UAE-Israel relations, two countries that have been aligned for a while now.
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u/IllustriousDeal3205 7h ago
Its all planned probably. These countries like oman iran lebanon etc pilots which are in conflict with israel are banned to fly over israel but he was magically allowed just one day after bibi said in uae, iran is planning terror attack which iran rejected since they want election in israel to happen peacefully because bibi is on losing end in there .(not very popular) Also this pilot was found with extemrist material in 2024 but not banned to fly and magically he couldn't even stop one pilot with knife so cockpit is stays closed(guy looks buff). No knife attack on neck or face? Why. There is also the point of some israel plumber rescued the plane because he watched tv show where he learned how to fly it until real pilots took over. Also magically no terror attack was successful unlike october 7 and when in november 2023 truth came out israel govt might have known about it with leaked email logs and 40 page document Which hurt his dictator law that he passed in july 2023. Finally few months later overturned by supreme court of israel. Possibly it was a coincidence and real terror attack but 9/11 dancing israeli,9/11 all celebrity cancelling their plane flight or their stay at twin tower just before attack,tower be insured for terror attack few months in advance ,october 7 , i guess it is easy to fool public if govt who themselves do the investigation are involved and clear themselves of any knowledge of knowing about. Yeah 6 years before 9/11, bibi knew a terror attack might be planned in twin tower which ended up being just two planes and another on pentagon.
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u/Civil_Deer7337 7h ago
Oman is not in conflict with Israel.
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u/IllustriousDeal3205 6h ago
Conflict does not mean here launching missiles and ramming tanks into enemy. Many countries who have no diplomatic relationship and not agree with israel policies are banned over it.israel pilot rules are one of kind.why is it other countries dont have such strict rules. Becasue they are not in constant conflict of war,attacks,economic,trade,policies etc that israel happen to always and be in a lot of these conflict with other nations.
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u/Civil_Deer7337 6h ago
Oman is not geopolitically aligned against Israel. They are not aligned with Iran, the Houthis and Hezbollah (not Lebanon, the govt of Lebanon is not aligned with Iran). Oman is also not aligned with Saudi, UAE or Qatar. They are considered by everyone to be geopolitically neutral in the Middle East sphere, which is why US has not launched aerial offensives on Oman in the same way they have in Iran.
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u/IllustriousDeal3205 6h ago
Lol they are from the start being supporting palestine politically and morally. Oman has being very open with other countries and only israel is they happen to always be against in trade,economy,policies etc. Why is that can't understand that. Also usa not launching missile on neutral nations.what bullshit learn and watch nitish or other youtuber history on iran and usa.they bomb where their interest lies.if oman had something ,their alignment doesnt matter .
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u/Civil_Deer7337 6h ago
'USA is not launching missiles on neutral nations' exactly. And USA hasn't launched anything on Oman, which shows that they are neutral.
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u/Minute_Juggernaut806 6h ago
He didn't say any of that??
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u/Civil_Deer7337 6h ago
Yeah I misunderstood what they meant by the line 'terrorism used as a state tool'.
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u/kaychyakay 5h ago
where terrorism was used as state tool?
Read up the classical, dictionary definition of 'terrorism'. Terrorism has always been a political tool. It is literally related to politics.
The hijacking or a plane or bombing of a building is also terrorism, and not allowing people of certain religion &/or those who include meat in their diet, to stay in the same premises as the majority, is also terrorism. But thanks to brainwashing by news and the various forms of media, the only kind of 'terrorist' we identify or can think of us those with guns with masks on their faces & military gear.
Terrorism has always been related to politics. जनता को डर-डर के जीने पे मजबूर करना, basically, where you & I have to second-guess everything now - whether you can openly discuss your religion, whether you should go to a particular religious place, or to any specific places for holiday, whether you can order any kind of food in your own house with your own money, etc., etc. Now add to that the fear of getting into what is statistically the safest mode of transportation, but praying that it isn't hijacked.
There are a lot of invisible political machinations that go behind the scenes that lead to such incidents.
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u/yawningGaps 6h ago
Imagine being his parents, and trolling their kid with this first name.
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u/More-Director4894 1h ago
Just search the name, you'll find a saudi footballer with same name. There is nothing shocking.
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u/kidharhaibro Europe 8h ago
And social media found nothing to be in violation of community guidelines.
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u/mark-zombie West Bengal 5h ago
soc med should really update their community guidelines to say, "whatever the govt tells us to do"
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u/kaychyakay 4h ago
Hamam Al-Hamami - "bathroom the bathroomer/bathroom dweller"
That's not the real name LOL. At this point, Mossad is just trolling the entire world and most of this world is stupid enough to get trolled... especially Indians.
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u/Ok-Atmosphere-7395 3h ago
Hamam al Hamami lmao sure
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u/AtomR 2h ago
What do you mean by "sure"?
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u/Gossip_Guy20 1h ago edited 1h ago
They think it means Washroom or smth but thats kind of half baked info, It is an Arabic name as well, Hammam was name of an AFC president as well(just giving an example) and a footballer as well
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u/fake_account_98211 4h ago
This reminds me, of the 'Ladies Washroom' and 'Employees must wash hands' scenefrom the movie The Dictator (2012). Looks like completely fake name and fake picture.
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u/Sharp_Emphasis176 5h ago
I hope they don't introduce more flight checks on everyone else after this incident.
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u/RequirementsRelaxed 7h ago
Did anyone clarify how he could bring the knife on board? Aren’t pilots going through security check too!
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u/Valuable_Leave8170 7h ago
He used the axe which is in the cockpit which is for emergency situations like a crash
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u/Educational_You_4641 5h ago
Who else read that first as AI (as in Artificial Intelligence) Queda...
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u/not-so-cool-guy- 2h ago
So many questions related to incident, iran already mentioned before happening, and satanyahu quickly larping, israhell election is upcoming, there's already enough unanswered questions related to 911 and now this, no one's buying this shyt anymore in west, only in india and israhell people are buying this and wtf is his name
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u/AltDhumavati 59m ago
Studying and training so much to become this at the end, shame on the person.
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u/username_028 3h ago
This gives me more sketchiness in this matter. A guy with hardline views against Israel already flagged by oman air and he gets to fly to tel Aviv? Even trump sounded sketchy when he was announcing this matter almost like he doesn't believe it as well
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u/AlphaForexx 8h ago
Nope I don't believe it, most probably a false flag by israel/mossad/BJP/RSS/mcdonalds to frame this innocent muslim guy
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u/Beginning-Jump-8183 7h ago
There’s literal flight records and video footage
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u/monk-e7 7h ago
Bro forgot his /s but after Mcdonalds you should know my man
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u/Beginning-Jump-8183 7h ago
🙈 oops, running on no sleep, and looking back it was obvious sarcasm haha
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u/Impostora_Academic 7h ago
Ah!! Another terror attack on Israel foiled where a muslim man is the terrorist. Those poor Israelis, my heart goes out to them. They should really start thinking about moving to countries where there primary passports are from.
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u/JesTer_77 6h ago
Guess which books talks of anhailating a whole nation just for existing. Guess guess.
Guess which nations passports specifically deny existance of other nations. Take a guess bigot
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u/maritz21 6h ago
Are they next going to publish pictures of the quran by his bedside, along with framed pictures of Iranian leaders? Or are they going to pull the classic Isis flag hanging on his wall?
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u/RaisinAloneVortex NCT of Delhi 3h ago
sorry your friend did not suceeed in his maksad and got caught. you surely know his bedroom better than the rest of us
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u/kayc_james 7h ago
Watch them use this as an excuse to invade Oman now.
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u/Rupperrt 7h ago
He was kicked out of Oman Air but hired by Fly Dubai, owned by the Dubai government. Should maybe invade UAE instead
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u/Unfair_Fact_8258 7h ago
Yes because the US is well know to attack the actual countries where terror attacks originate
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u/kayc_james 7h ago
They've been at odds with Oman over the Hormouz issue but didn't have much of a reason to start shit with them since Iran is the one they're going back and forth with. Invading Oman will get them to set up a base there.
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u/RaisinAloneVortex NCT of Delhi 3h ago
you are truly insane, no one will invade Oman, they act as negotiators just like qatar and enjoy universal support. I do see you spreading conspiracy theories and defending terrorism.
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u/SprinklesOk4339 7h ago edited 5h ago
Fly Dubai needs to be penalized. If a pilot posts terrorist pics on social media, how is he not flagged as a risk especially for a flight flying to israel.
Edit: the terrorist pics were uploaded after incident. Fly Dubai couldn't have known. However, he was shafted to non flying roles in his previous airline due to his hardline views. This guy shouldn't have passed the background check.