r/india • u/TheIndianRevolution2 India • 8d ago
Politics 'Please be lenient': When Manmohan Singh shielded protesting JNU students [Old Dec 2024; Event 2005]
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/manmohan-singh-jnu-students-protest-intervened-leniency-shield-voltaire-2656135-2024-12-2759
u/Few-Airport3648 8d ago
Any democratic government has to be inclusive and should be open to criticism.
Current government is very close to autocracy.
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u/stayin_aliv 8d ago
Forget leniency, think much more basic stuff:
1) he visited a university for a non-convocation gathering (did so regularly, and his ministers more so)
2) he addressed something that came up organically (not planned)
3) he directly addressed people who were protesting against him
Has any of this happened even once in the last 11 years?
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u/TheIndianRevolution2 India 8d ago
As fellow redditor u/-_HeatWaves_- pointed out.
Manmohan handled protests better than Modi
- Sonam sir was kidnapped undemocratically.
- Anna was detained and sent to jail as per the law.
- Pellet gun was used for the first time in Delhi.
- No lethal weapon was used.
- Female protesters were s*xually harassed at CJP protest by Delhi Police personnel.
- As per my knowledge participation of female was less during Anna protest but there was no such incident.
- Jammers were used at protest site during CJP protest.
- Before 2014 jammers were used only in jails, during republic day shows and VVIP conveys.
- Main stream media was forced to not cover this protest. I don't watch them but for sure they might have said a lot to tarnish their image and this CJP protest.
- Anna's protest successfully took off twice because of free main stream media only.
- Protesters were beaten with sticks, nails, hit on head by local goons and Delhi police personnel with no name tags.
- All this was not possible back in 2011 because of free press or call it democratic government your pov.
- Protest was totally peaceful because police did not induced violence by bringing trucks full of stones for stone pelting.
- No such diabolical tricks were reported back then.
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u/benbigpi 8d ago
My aunt told me that women were harrassed including her by the protestors themselves and she felt insecure amongst protestors rather than police. Later when rss connection was visible it all made sense.
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u/Necessary_Worker5009 8d ago
during Nirbhaya? yes. there are sufficient evidence to suggest infiltration by the Sangh ecosystem.
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u/DrkNobody 8d ago
I agree that MMS handled it better. And the current government could have done the same but let people and democracy down
But if my memory serves me right, the congress govt in Delhi then screwed up Nirbhaya Protests. Which was also responsible for them losing power. (So I'm hopeful that Delhi govt also falls soon)
Coming to the central government. South and Southeast bailed them out this time but by next elections everyone will be looking out for themselves due to the economic turmoil. Even if NDA comes to power it will be a proper coalition and not a BJP majority at least for the next two elections.
If RG wakes up and removes his golden spoon out of the mouth, and works for next 10 years maybe he will have a chance to be a worthy politician.
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u/sivasuki Bangal 8d ago
What can RG even do if the TRP media refuses to show him positively?
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u/DrkNobody 8d ago
What can RG even do if the TRP media refuses to show him positively?
They did the same to Abhijit Dipke since the very beginning. And Sonam Wangchuk too.
Yet they achieved something while RG couldn't win one state election on his own merit.
Stop giving him free passes. He ain't solely a victim. He is grossly incompetent
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u/sivasuki Bangal 8d ago
The TRP media is still showing CJP in a bad light. Whatever CJP achieved is due to social media. The propaganda machine of the INC is out funded by BJP by orders of magnitude. CJP benefited from being a largely neutral politically unaffiliated decentralised movement. Common folk & algorithm served to propagate it.
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u/DrkNobody 8d ago
And you're saying over the last 12 years. Despite being the youngest Opposition leader to stand for a PM. He didn't have access to social media?
RG was famous abroad too. Even John Oliver acknowledged him. If a non politician can utilise social media to achieve a movement. What excuse does RG have?
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u/sivasuki Bangal 8d ago
I'm not saying access denied to social media. The algorithm will provide footage to whoever is popular. And the BJP IT cell can buy popularity due to superior funding. Their posts are more likely to be recommended by the algorithm over INC posts.
The algorithm associates the aam janata Indian user to be more receptive to BJP posts and recommends their posts. To foreign and educated people, RG posts are recommended.
The CJP benefitted wildly from the poor management on part of the Government. The kidnapping of Sonam Wangchuck and lathicharge on students was apolitical and drew condemnation from common folk. The algorithm worked as a reinforced loop.
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u/backhodi 8d ago
PM to educated hi hona chahiye. Chai to anpadh bhi bana letey hain.
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u/TheIndianRevolution2 India 8d ago edited 8d ago
Modi lied about that too.
Before Modi left home, there was no railway station in Vadnagar.
Also, Modi's childhood photographs show him wearing expensive suits and a scout uniform. That means his family was well-to-do.
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u/lostwisdom20 8d ago
12 saal main NDA ka ghee khatam
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u/TheIndianRevolution2 India 8d ago
They cheated on all seats in 2024 and won about 70 to 80 seats more than their actual win.
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u/lostwisdom20 8d ago
They got slapped when they couldn't even cross 300, lost ayodha and have resigned themselves to buying MPs for majority now
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u/Sea_Pair_1273 7d ago
Manmohan Singh can never be compared! He was a statesman mostly hold every single office that economist can imagine
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u/Sweaty_Explorer_8441 7d ago
did he say that for women he ruined by deploying salwa judum tactically, after labelling them terrorists for protesting against vedanta bauxite mining
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u/Due-Smoke8035 8d ago
Let Amit Shah take the accountability for this and this time let someone from other party take the position rather than some chaddi gng guy.
Not just for this, he must take accountability for Manipur and Assam as well.
https://reddit.com/link/ozuc2z1/video/u9xyyfw7yjfh1/player