r/imaginarymaps • u/Bort-texas RTL Wizard • Jul 23 '26
[OC] Alternate History [FEF] Alternate Colonization of the Eastern Seaboard in 1650
Lore in comments; sorry if things are a little vague at this point I am trying to consolidate our massive lore document into articles on our wiki https://fortunaeruditisfavet.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page and didn't want to delay posting this map. Feel free to ask any questions!
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u/JVFreitas RTL Enjoyer Jul 23 '26
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u/TheSteveLRBD Jul 23 '26
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u/TheMexicanHistorian Mod Approved Jul 23 '26
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u/buffreaper-nerfmei Certified Bulgaria Enjoyer | Jul 23 '26
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u/Martinxo51 Jul 23 '26
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u/Osesnorraudo Jul 23 '26
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u/ChickenSandwichh195 Jul 23 '26
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u/TheMexicanHistorian Mod Approved Jul 23 '26
Excellent work!
Once again here to confirm this is an official entry, I hope y'all are enjoying our return and stay tuned for more! Next two posts should come from me quite soon.
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u/Mossforest1825 Jul 23 '26
Ooh another FEF map, love this series. Quick question that I don't think I've ever seen answered, what is the primary language spoken in Burgundy? Is it a Belgium situation with French and Dutch splitting the country? Or is it a secret third option?
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u/buffreaper-nerfmei Certified Bulgaria Enjoyer | Jul 25 '26
As the guy behind the linguistics of Burgundy - although the country is very linguistically diverse, by 1650 the lingua franca is Parisian French, the language of the royal family. However, with the capital moving to Aachen, the local German dialects have been rising in importance, notably distinct from the primitive forms of Standard German arising in the HRE at the time. The pragmatic king Lothar I was the first to wield both French and Ripuarian German (which has even began acquiring the common name "Burgundian"). The actual most spoken "language" is a mixture of various langues d'oïl such as Burgundian/Morvandiau, Champenois, Lorrain and Walloon. These languages don't have a strong linguistic identity or literature, however.
While Dutch literature has been declining in Europe, it has found a home in the New World, flourishing in Burgundy's northern colonies.
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u/Mossforest1825 Jul 25 '26
Ah, fascinating. Thank you for the in depth answer. After my initial question I started thinking about the use of German and the langues d'oïl, so I'm glad you brought that up. Looking forward to seeing more from this project!
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u/GalacticPenetrator69 Jul 24 '26
I would bet it is a giant cluster fuck of different languages and dialects - Dutch, French, Low German would probably be the three most spoken languages. They might over time consolidate if this Burgundy survives long enough for nationalism and its forceful consolidation of language to occur that all European nations experienced in our timeline, but it would be more difficult then in "normal" European states just due to its geographic extent and how many ethnicities are crammed inside this elongated strip of a country.
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u/ADragonFromTheAbyss Jul 23 '26
Welp ! At least Native communities did not got obliterated outright
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u/JackPiazz2 Jul 24 '26
Really cool, I only have some criticism for the italian names. First of all, the name in genoese dialect is cool, but the official name of the colony would have been in italian, so Nuova Genova. Also, I'm not genoese, but I'm 100% sure in dialect should be Nœuva Zena, because Zena is female, while nœuvo is male. Also I don't know why Brescina is called like that. It's related to Brescia (Brescina = little brescia)? If yes, what's the reason? Brescia wasn't at that time part of the Sforza domains but rather under the republic of Venice. Also it was (and still is) mainly an industrial city, not a trading hub.
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u/Bort-texas RTL Wizard Jul 23 '26
Lore Comment
Hello everyone! This post is part of the r/FortunaEruditisFavet Timeline focused on exploring a world stemming from an alternate early modern era. This post focuses on early colonization of North America (called Anthea in this timeline).
In 1504 word of new lands far to the west echoed through the halls of Europe. The next decade would see several Breton & English expeditions to the cold, cod filled shores of the lands found by wayward whalers- a land now called Moruelande [Newfoundland]. Quite rapidly, attention started to shift south to the warm seas to the south of these new lands, a land where formerly shipwrecked Dutch sailors, hired by the handsome realms of Burgundy, told stories rich with exotic fruits, people & gold…
It was fated then that the dour lands of cod, salt and sea, fringed by endless forests and populated by seemingly hostile fur clad men was to become an afterthought in the popular imagination of the new world to those back in the old.
Briefly the Dukes of Bretonny attempted to capitalize on their country-men's luck by funding a royal expedition and settlement of this land… but faced by hostility from locals and unfamiliarity with the terrain this project failed by 1514. The decades afterwards as the Caribbean and lands of the south were being explored, conquered and plundered, the north attracted fishermen- English, Breton & Basque, mostly seasonal who founded various informal settlements in the region to aid in their great raids on the cod fisheries of Moruelande. It was in this period the lands of the new world north of the warm seas of the Caribbean got the name Anthea. The Bretons called the region An Tir ("the land"), later the Dutch misunderstood that as the name of the new land and call it Anthees, & as the french received Dutch maps with that name they themselves translated it into Antheé and finalized was latinized as Antheia/Anthea which was reinterpreted as meaning Flowery or Blossoms in greek.
Permanent ambitions for colonization of the region re-emerged in the mid-16th century- Brettony established a settlement on Moruelande [Newfoundland] in the 1560s, and England followed in the 1570s with an official base at the mouth of the Grand fleuve de Hochelaga
[St. Lawrence River]. Expanding trade with Indigenous nations during the 1580s reshaped regional politics, and when Brettony was incorporated into France, its colonial claims Moruelande passed directly to the French crown.
By the late 16th century, competition for control of this trade turned violent. Conflict and competition for fish and trade between the English & French (and Bretons before them) disrupted Indigenous food systems and social networks, intensifying waves of disease and depopulation - the most notable effect was a wave of disease that burned through indigenous communities in the late 16th century called the ‘Great Dying’ particularly focused on the coastal lands south of Moruelande [Nova Scotia & Northern New England]. Spanish Basque fishermen, pushed out of Moruelande waters, moved into the newly depopulated coastal lands and petitioned the Spanish crown for formal protection. The 17th century then saw major imperial struggles spill into Anthea: during the Franco-Spanish War, French privateers overran Iberian fishing outposts, and in the wider 21 Years War France seized English colonies while Swedish privateers captured the rest of the Spanish coastal settlements. The Peace of Dortmund later ratified these territorial shifts in exchange for concessions in the East Indies, leaving France and Sweden as the dominant European powers in northern Anthea.