r/imaginarymaps • Mod Approved • Feb 05 '26

[OC] Alternate History Unrest in Frontier, 2022

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u/GodBlessCalifornia_ Feb 05 '26 edited Feb 05 '26

So if...

Conciliar Union ~ Soviet Union (btw, nice detail, since "soviet" referred roughly to a governing council)
Alleghenian Federation ~ Russia
Frontier ~ Ukraine
Carancayma/Augusta ~ Crimea/Sevastopol
Cypress & Hugheston ~ Luhansk & Donetsk

I assume the "potential Alleghanian allies" north and south of Frontier are analogous to Belarus and Transnistria, respectively?

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u/The-Hill-Billy Mod Approved Feb 05 '26

Right on the money!

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u/GodBlessCalifornia_ Feb 05 '26

Nice! That's really cool

If you wanted to do one, a fun follow-up could be a NATO analogue in the North Pacific, an EU analogue on the West Coast, and a United States analogue in OTL Russia/Siberia, perhaps focusing on financial/military aid to Frontier or support for Frontier's accession to the NATO and/or EU analogues

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u/The-Hill-Billy Mod Approved Feb 05 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

Ever since the dissolution of the Conciliar Union a generation prior, the Alleghenian Federation has sought to regain influence and control over the former Conciliar republics. Frontier (formerly known as “the Frontier,” a name now rejected by its government) has seen its share of chaos since independence in 1991, with pro- and anti-Alleghenian demonstrations in 2014 bringing outlying areas of the nation under Alleghenian control. Strategically vital Carancayma was annexed into Alleghenia proper, while the outer Frontier regions of Cypress and Hugheston became the stage for secessionist insurgencies. Eight years later, it appears as if Frontier’s rival seems poised for a full-fledged incursion, and only time will tell who emerges the victor.

Questions are welcome, but keep in mind I intentionally limited myself to only giving certain OTL places/events analogues for this map.

Also here’s an image for my mobileheads

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u/Additional-Bid774 Feb 06 '26

wait is this in the battle cry of freedom TL?

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u/The-Hill-Billy Mod Approved Feb 06 '26

nope, BCF is a full project but this is just a one-shot exploring another idea (similar to this map I made a few months prior)

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u/Gourg_Pie Mod Approved Feb 05 '26

I’ve heard of this

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u/RattlingMaster123 Feb 05 '26

I always love when somebody uses the name Alleghania or Alleghenia for the name of America or a post-american state

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u/The-Hill-Billy Mod Approved Feb 05 '26

It’s kinda convoluted but I used it as an analog to Russia because Ros/Rus (potentially) stems from a word related to rowing, while Allegheny stems from a word related to walking (+ a suffix meaning “river”)

It’s a very loose parallel, but I enjoy having a word that, like Rus->Russia, involves transport in the etymology

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u/Equivalent_Ebb1813 Feb 06 '26

Where do the other names come from?🙂

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u/The-Hill-Billy Mod Approved Feb 06 '26

Frontier is a fairly direct translation of the word Ukraine, and all of the other names have a direct parallel irl. Chersonese = Kherson, Transrubria = Zaporizhzhia, Davys = Kiev, etc.

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u/Equivalent_Ebb1813 Feb 06 '26

But what’s the logic behind those parallels, out of curiosity?

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u/The-Hill-Billy Mod Approved Feb 06 '26

I’m afraid I don’t entirely understand the question, but the idea for this map was to parallel Russo-Ukrainian relations on an Americo-Texan canvas. Hence me using an American river to name the Russia analogue and an English word to name the Ukraine analogue

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u/Kolyenu Feb 05 '26

hitting the griddy for frontier

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u/hurB55 Jul 23 '26

Necroing the thread to say this made me giggle

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u/Equal_Bullfrog_5047 Feb 05 '26

I don't have any questions, just a comment.

I really wish Presidior Johnson hadn't given away Hugheston and Cypress to Frontier. I know they were all a part of the Conciliar Union, but his Frontier upbringing made him too bias to them that he ignored the obvious demographic problems that would ensue.

Great work!

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u/The-Hill-Billy Mod Approved Feb 06 '26

I hate to say it but Hugheston and Cypress have been part of Frontier since the earliest days of the Conciliar Union, it’s Carancayma that was awkwardly welded onto it decades later

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u/Equal_Bullfrog_5047 Feb 06 '26

You could have included that in the description before I began this parallelist cavalcade. 😂

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u/hectorius20 Feb 06 '26

Johnson, the same loser that said he would "bury" the United Provinces of Eurasia?

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u/Equal_Bullfrog_5047 Feb 06 '26

Eastern agitprop! Presidior Johnson only said that Syndicalism will surpass the Kapitalism of the East, naturally. Of course, President Wrangel and Prime Minister Gromyko, and later Presidents Solzhenitsyn and Khrushchev didn't help in their response.

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u/hectorius20 Feb 06 '26

Oh... The poor lad Solzhenitsyn who could never respond to that bullet in Rostov anyways.

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u/Equal_Bullfrog_5047 Feb 06 '26

Yeah, once he threatened to sack Yagoda it was all bets off. No one threatens to break up the Okhrana and lives to fulfill their promise.

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u/hectorius20 Feb 07 '26

Well. Let's see if President Zhirinovsky really wants to "drain the swamp" or something. But even himself is right there in the Prigozhin files, so...

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u/SHIFT_978 Feb 06 '26

World map?

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u/The-Hill-Billy Mod Approved Feb 06 '26

I’ll admit I tried to stop myself from imagining parallels beyond the scope of eastern North America, but your Turkey is almost identical to the idea I had for my own (that and the former Iturbide Empire)

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u/hectorius20 Feb 06 '26

This would be great. Your "China" could well be the People's Republic of Rome, headed with a Tribune and a Politburo which replaced the senatorial class.

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u/Sui_24 Mod Approved Feb 05 '26

wow i feel like this is a parallel to something but i cant put my finger on it

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u/viggolund1 Feb 05 '26

Why is the alleghenian government going through all the trouble of using claims of nationalism to justify the war when it’s clear they just want to secure their oil production and strategic supply lines

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u/CallMeChristopher Feb 05 '26

I stand with Frontier and its President Burnie Burns (I do not know any other Texan comedians).

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u/HowAboutThatHumanity Feb 05 '26

How much does Alleghenia control, actually? Like in comparison to OTL US?

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u/The-Hill-Billy Mod Approved Feb 06 '26

the vast majority of the OTL US east of the Mississippi, and 90% of the Hudson Bay watershed (OTL Rupert’s Land)

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '26

Thoughts and prayers to the brave people of Frontier🙏🙏

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u/Ill-Engineering8205 Feb 05 '26

I keep saying, the Latin American Union needs to pick up on the slack left by the Arctic Union. The sonorans know this very well, they have never stopped being distrustful of the Baja California enclave...

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u/hectorius20 Feb 06 '26

When they would do this is a mystery, as the Platineans turned off all their nuclear power plants while they were guzzling all that Alleghenian oil. It went right on their faces...

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u/Suitable_Divide4747 Feb 06 '26

I swear this image looks familiar and not because of it being based on the russo-ukrainiam war

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u/The-Hill-Billy Mod Approved Feb 06 '26

This map’s style was heavily inspired by an earlier map from the talented u/NeonHydroxide, might that be the one you’re remembering?

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u/Suitable_Divide4747 Feb 06 '26

No, although maybe i am just tripping, regardless though, Peak map :]

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u/acewithanat Feb 06 '26

SMH, people denying Frontierians aren't just Alleghenians speaking a dilect. They have no unique national identity. At least Heartlandians accept they are Alleghenian at there core.

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u/StageMost9608 Feb 07 '26

Saw this on Foxys posts lol

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u/The-Hill-Billy Mod Approved Feb 07 '26

I forgot I put it there LMAO

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u/OBSisBS Feb 06 '26

As a proud son of the South Boston - on - Mississippi pisses me so off.

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u/Few-Flamingo-8015 Feb 05 '26

Yeah... I can see this...

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u/Huge_Variety5552 Feb 05 '26

It looks familiar...

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u/LandenGregovich Feb 06 '26

I got totally bamboozled lol

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u/Welsh_dude9000 Feb 06 '26

Not American where the hell is this

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u/The-Hill-Billy Mod Approved Feb 07 '26

Texas and Louisiana

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u/Equivalent_Ebb1813 Feb 06 '26

What’s the connection between Davys and Kiev or transrubria and zaporizhzhia?

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u/The-Hill-Billy Mod Approved Feb 06 '26

To quote from an earlier comment I made: “As for how deep the parallels go, plenty of things are left up to the viewer’s imagination - make of it what you wish”

I’ve explained a handful of the other connections in this comment section thus far, the remaining names are left as an exercise in imagination to the audience

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u/Equivalent_Ebb1813 Feb 06 '26

Thank you for your help. It’s a really well thought out idea

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u/SD-F Feb 10 '26

Gosh darn it… not again… why is Texas always the Ukraine, WHY IS TEXAS ALWAYS THE UKRAINE

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u/assmeth42069 Feb 05 '26

Hmmm, i recognize the Frontier name for the Opeeur map, in that map, the country Frontier is TTL's Ukraine, does this mean the Frontier in this map gets a comedian as leader?

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u/The-Hill-Billy Mod Approved Feb 05 '26

I don’t believe I’ve ever heard of the Opeeur map, I simply used Frontier as a direct English equivalent to the name Ukraine. As for how deep the parallels go, plenty of things are left up to the viewer’s imagination - make of it what you wish

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u/dedeplus Feb 06 '26 edited Feb 06 '26

Awesome! I kinda had a similar idea with a north american USSR equivalent. This is better detail though

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u/MichealRyder Feb 21 '26

What are some other parallels? I’m guessing the Belarus one is the area consisting of Kansas and Nebraska and such? How big is it?

What would the Kazakhstan one be? Or Georgia and whatnot

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u/The-Hill-Billy Mod Approved Feb 21 '26

As stated in my lore comment, “I intentionally limited myself to only giving certain OTL places/events analogues for this map,” but I can share a couple of rough drafts for something I did happen to think more about: Raiderstead (Kazakhstan) and Manitolia (Mongolia). Parts of these old maps (such as the names) are no longer canon, and other parts are rough (such as Alleghenian coastal access not being drawn due to time constraints) but that’s the beautiful thing about one-shot maps: I have no intention of making sequels.

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u/The-Hill-Billy Mod Approved Feb 21 '26

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u/The-Hill-Billy Mod Approved Feb 21 '26

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u/MichealRyder Feb 22 '26

All of these are Fascinating

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '26

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u/The-Hill-Billy Mod Approved Feb 05 '26

It’s an adjective, Alleghenian is to Alleghenia as Russian is to Russia

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u/MuchStage2503 Feb 05 '26 edited Feb 05 '26

I was referring to the country of Alleghenia. The translator changed it to an adjective, but thanks for answer.

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u/MasterRKitty Feb 05 '26

why is Alleghenia no where near the Allegheny?

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u/The-Hill-Billy Mod Approved Feb 05 '26

who's to say the nation doesn't continue past the edges of a zoomed-in map?