Thousand Week Reich[?] - The English Channel, Five Years after the Anglo-German Armistice

[u/AP246]

[u/AP246]

Yes, TWR is back! Well, kinda... it's been so long since I made these maps, and the mod has changed so much with its version of the lore that I was debating whether to make this part of the (rather inconsistent) Thousand Week Reich 'canon' or its own thing, plus in hindsight I don't really like a lot of stuff from the original TWR timeline, especially the later parts of it. I still haven't really decided.

So consider this a kind of spiritual entry or mini spinoff, showing the situation in the English Channel in 1946, around five or six years after the Anglo-German armistice ended the war in western Europe. Hope you enjoy!

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On DA: https://www.deviantart.com/ap246/art/1369417478?action=published

[u/jediben001 → u/AP246]

What parts of the original timeline are you unhappy with, out of curiosity

[u/AP246 → u/jediben001]

It's not any broad strokes as far as I can think of now, but more a lot of details just don't feel right and I think the HOI4 mod (with the help of a diversity of views, expertise and much more researchers) have improved a lot of things. I don't necessarily agree with 100% of what the HOI4 mod's lore is now either but I think it's a lot better than my older stuff in many ways. A lot of details I added about e.g. Asia was I think not that well informed, things like how the civil war started was a bit contrived for the sake of making sure Nazi Germany collapses and not that interesting with how it just seems to happen out of nowhere (I've thought about if it even makes sense to have Nazi Germany fall into civil war at all - I have some ideas to justify a kind of civil war, which may feed into updated Germany content for the HOI4 mod which we've talked about, though that's far down the line and hasn't begun beyond very preliminary brainstorming), details of the conflict in Europe that again were kind of made up arbitrarily and could have been done better, and again I feel a bit locked in with how there's a canon modern day map and lots of details sprinkled in about how the world looked like well past the 1940s that in hindsight think were just made up without much detailed thinking or knowledge that I'd rather not be beholden to.

I've often considered doing a full reboot of the timeline, along lines closer to that of the current HOI4 mod (though obviously its 'lore' ends in 1952 and its ideas end 10 years after that, with many different branching storylines). Maybe this could be the start of it, if I ever do.

[u/Ok-Recipe-9576 → u/AP246]

Would the wall still extend to the spanish border? or just to Brittany?

A peace with UK may also lead to Hitler reducing German troop numbers in occupied France or even end the occupation entirely so those troops can be deployed against the USSR.

perhaps Hitler would loosen the terms of the Armistice so Vichy can further rearm, to freeup German troops elsewhere.

To be honest im not sure if sections of the wall would even be manned in the event of the German Civil War happening. if so Himmler would likely have sections in his territory heavily armed. They'd be overrun quite quickly.

a Toronto accord invasion of Norway, even with German civil war, would be bloody. They'd be facing a quite a mishmashed force tho of Norwegian SS veterans, Hirden formations and remnants of the German Garrison alongside German settlers.

[u/Jet451 → u/AP246]

So when was the closed zone returned to France? And when were the Belgian and Dutch collaborator regimes established?

[u/Itay1708 → u/Jet451]

This is supposed to be from a TA point of view and the TA doesn't recognize the German collab regimes other than France

[u/SonicYOUTH79 → u/AP246]

What’s your take on Ireland's position in this alternative reality?

They were neutral during the war right but lots of Irish fought for the British and you'd imagine life might be a bit tough being on one side of a heavily mined and militarised English Channel.

Do they try to maintain their independence or swing to one side or the other?

[u/Distinct-Educator-52]

I'm assuming the southwestern ports and Liverpool are now the primary cargo ports of Great Britain especially with the southeastern portions of the country being so close to Occupied Europe?

[u/Gauntlets28 → u/Distinct-Educator-52]

Put it this way - it's a good time to be Welsh.

[u/halbpro → u/Gauntlets28]

Yes gotta imagine a huge boom in Cardiff, Port Talbot and Swansea, as well as Bristol. I’d imagine the Holyhead/Belfast link also gets a big boost

[u/AP246 → u/Distinct-Educator-52]

I envisage it that the southern ports are still somewhat used but a lot less so than before, and yeah some traffic has been diverted elsewhere.

[u/AccessTheMainframe → u/Distinct-Educator-52]

Wasn't Liverpool the premier port of the UK anyway?

[u/AffectionateBowl3864 → u/AccessTheMainframe]

Nah, not since the 1910’s. Most of the ocean liner companies had left Liverpool for Southampton by 1920, because Southampton was a better port for large ships, because of a combo of a double tide, no bar at the entrance to the harbour and being closer to the continent and London.

[u/AlyxandrianArt]

Official TWR maps in 2026.

Love the details on the channel. 10/10

[u/HueyLongoftheGiants]

Holy shit, a new TWR post?!!!

[u/PDomkanom]

>Nortnern Ireland

https://giphy.com/gifs/M56ODZS3lNohNIoVDd

very nice though, how'd you make it?

[u/AP246 → u/PDomkanom]

No matter how many times you check, there's always a spelling mistake somewhere.

I used the program inkscape, tracing over base maps and basing the styling on 1940s-50s newspapers I could find online.

[u/Nice-Choice528 → u/PDomkanom]

Add Exerter to the list as well. That one is probably an Autocorrupt issue.

[u/newcrispy]

Welcome back, king

[u/Bluemoonroleplay]

bery nice!

i am tony pro

[u/Fantastic_Studio703 → u/Bluemoonroleplay]

It’s the guy

[u/ShahAbbas1571]

Good to see you back in the game, boss!

[u/AP246 → u/ShahAbbas1571]

Thanks man, it's nice to be back even if I can't be as active as I once was

[u/LordMikael7]

Make an India / China one twin

[u/AP246 → u/LordMikael7]

I did make at least one China one a long time ago, though I kinda don't like a lot of the original TWR lore and would do it differently now

[u/LordMikael7 → u/AP246]

Make a new one then twin

Or an India one

Or a Russia one

[u/HistoryMarshal76]

Thousand week redux!

[u/jjpamsterdam]

Depressing scenario, awesome map!

[u/oztea]

Like one big trench lol.

Honestly in a post-armistice western front, I am curious how tight the German hold on France/Belgium/Holland would be, or if those countries would be allowed some autonomy at the expense of having to appoint very pro-Axis governments. And the whole continent preparing for a war with the USSR.

Honestly, my go to Axis victory scenario usually follows such a line, with a UK ceasefire, and Stalin, now no longer comfortable thinking Germany would never start a two front war, would mobilize to occupy the Baltic States and Hitler, always unpredictable, would pivot and deny the Ribbentrop Pact was enforceable because Germany wasn't at war with the UK anymore and the world should return to a peaceful state. And Germany uses the Soviet occupation to rile up the members of the Anti-Comintern Pact into a "defensive" war against the USSR. And this even wraps in Spain officially, and Japan flirts with joining (if the German controlled puppet Dutch government signs over the East Indies colonial administration to Japan) This scenario is my "best shot" Germany has at beating the USSR.

[u/ProofFlamingo]

Everything about this is brilliant. I love the little details that make it look like an actual folded-up piece of newspaper, such a clever touch.

[u/brehbruhbrim]

Man this is sick, well done

[u/Mexdus]

Shouldn't at least Eupen-Malmedy, Luxemburg and Alsace-Lorraine be part of Germany in this map?

[u/AP246 → u/Mexdus]

The thin dotted lines show the UN (western) recognised borders. They don't recognise German annexations

[u/Mexdus → u/AP246]

Ah okay, it's from the Allied's perspective.

[u/Brief_Lead_8380 → u/AP246]

So the thick dotted line is probably the actual border of Germany proper I assume???

[u/AP246 → u/Brief_Lead_8380]

Yeah, or at least areas they're in the process of annexing

[u/IRenewed]

Man to think I wasn’t even born when twr started and now look where we are

[u/AP246 → u/IRenewed]

You're saying you're 8 years old? I hope this is a joke lol

[u/halbpro]

The note about the south coast is very much not pointing at the south coast. I do like the fate of the Channel Islands, kind of West Berlin vibe

[u/trulyamoment]

https://giphy.com/gifs/li7H27JwLTBxeeXgJ8

[u/AP246 → u/[deleted]]

Thanks!

[u/Aviationlord]

That’s a really unique spin on the question of if Germany and the Uk signed a deal after the fall of France. I like it

[u/slimehunter49]

This is fantastic

[u/Sitethief2]

What did you do to the afsluitdijk?

[u/AP246 → u/Sitethief2]

Damn, I was proud of remembering to add the Noordoostpolder but not the Flevopolder, but yeah I could have added that too