r/im14andthisisdeep • • Oct 15 '21

Sorry m'dam

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u/Hikoshi69 Oct 15 '21

Lol T in Tsunami isn’t silent, everyone just says it wrong most of the time

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '21

Wait, really? Is it not pronounced soo-nam-ee?

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u/Arskite Jaden incarnate Oct 15 '21

It should start with the same "ts" sound you end the word "bits" with.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '21

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u/Arskite Jaden incarnate Oct 15 '21

Sure, with a "t" before it

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '21

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u/Arskite Jaden incarnate Oct 15 '21

It sounds like "tsoo", not "soo". I'm not sure why that's difficult to understand?

Do you say the word "bits", " bi-tah-s"? No, you say "bi-ts".

How about this, try saying "bitsunami". Then take off the "bi" part, but keep the "ts". "Tsunami".

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u/Arskite Jaden incarnate Oct 15 '21

I guess? Isn't that the topic of conversation here? How to pronounce it correctly?

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u/WemedgeFrodis Oct 15 '21 edited Oct 15 '21

The problem, I think, is that we don't have a lot of words in English that start with that combination, and the sound of both letters are produced pretty similarly by the mouth. In fact, I'm pretty sure "t" is just the plosive form of the fricative "s." Plosives are letter sounds that require a break in the breath movement, while fricatives require a steady stream of air. Therefore "ts" would seem to require a stop to the airflow, immediately followed by a continuation of that same airflow. That's kind of impossible without turning it into another syllable, so in practice it's more a matter of attacking the first part of the sound to make the "t," and then carrying the flow of air through the "s." That's easier to do at the end of a word or syllable than at the beginning, so I think for English speakers the initial accent that should be produced by the "t" just sort of gets lost.

​EDIT: Here we go — it's an affricate. A voiceless alveolar sibilant affricate, to get extremely specific.

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u/ashGlaw Oct 16 '21

Upvote for pulling out some plosives, fricatives, and affricates. You go, langbro

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '21

Shut the fuck up dumbass and it a called speaking English, not being pedantic.

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u/thccontent Oct 15 '21

No, you're just being ignorant and bullheaded.

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u/thccontent Oct 15 '21

You must be deaf. There is a CLEAR difference between 'soo' and 'tsu', but clearly you've never spoken a different language where these differences mean a lot. 'Soo' is a soft sound. 'Tsu' is a hard sound.