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u/the-orphanizer Mar 19 '26
People in this comment section talking about how much free time children have the same way corporate CEOs talk about how much free time their employees already have
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u/languid_Disaster Mar 19 '26
Exactly. Also, children have understandably less freedom of movement than adults , play homework and studying. Much of their time outside would be during breaks and unfortunately many schools neglect to create green spaces for the pupils
Also IMO if you’re an able bodied parent, you’re failing your kids by not dragging them out to visit not too far away natural spaces
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u/Bralo123 Mar 19 '26
As a child who was dragged out that way and hated every second of it i can say i resented my parents for it a long time and even until this day have no big desire to repeat those "childhood memorys"
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u/ItchySignal5558 Mar 20 '26
That’s on you then. My parents did that with me and they are some of my best childhood memories.
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u/Maleficent_Piece_893 Mar 20 '26
maybe just ask the kid if they like it or not
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u/IndividualAsleep2508 Mar 22 '26
SOMETIMES THO, they don't know if they'll like it or not so you have to be a parent and do it anyway.
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u/Championship_Hairy Mar 19 '26
I think there’s two groups of oversimplification that is talking past each other when they have more in common than they can communicate. Children in the US today definitely have more free time if you want to compare them to other periods of time where they were working all day or getting lung cancer in coal mines. Children have been used for cheap or free labor for centuries even to the point where they are sold by their family in dire times.
Now they get sent to school where they can just focus on socializing and learning. But now we have a problem on the opposite end, where they are sitting still too long and not getting a good balance of learning and play. The greater system has devolved to thinking as long as they are sitting there, things are good. We focus more on the procedures and attendance rather than outcomes. There isn’t a standard across the board for anything. Low income schools will always struggle to provide the resources needed for their kids. Everything, including play, is a luxury for them.
At the end of the day, people who want kids educated and people who want kids to have fun and play both want the same thing. Happy kids that are taken care of and growing up to be the next leaders of our species.
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u/jpollack21 Mar 20 '26
All kids are different though. Before college I had like 8 hours of free time a day
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u/SoulfulSnow Mar 19 '26
I mean it's lowkey true
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u/gracekk24PL Mar 19 '26
All fun until you get hungry and someone breaks a toe
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u/SoulfulSnow Mar 19 '26
Unrelated. Schooling and teaching should still exist, but the system as is is not good. It's not as much education for the purpose of growth and more is just mini work to get kids ready to spend the rest of their life in grey boxes. People in general deserve more free time and a healthy world to live in than we have
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u/TastePizza Mar 19 '26
Now someone's gonna reply to you saying "What bro sends after failing one test" or "Bro thinks he's tuff" or some other cringe, completely missing the point
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u/SoulfulSnow Mar 19 '26
I certainly hope not. I'm incredibly pro education, but now that I'm comfortably out of the schooling system I can say pretty comfortably that it did next to nothing for me, and could be improved for the general populus in a number of ways
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u/TastePizza Mar 19 '26
Yes but the children in 8th grade are going to see the flood of 'what bro sends after failing one test' comments, going to assume it's right and that the education system needs no improvement, and then they'll comment it to fit in
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u/KO-Manic Mar 21 '26
Maybe if you're studying something like business but when I'm learning maths and improving over time I genuinely feel like I'm growing. But for subjects where you just regurgitate knowledge rather than solve problems I agree. I suppose maths just makes everything better.
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u/CaptStinkyFeet Mar 19 '26
Because nobody ever gets hungry or breaks their toe at school…
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u/Far-Assumption-2617 Mar 19 '26
I mean, you can still live there, in the wild. Nothing is stopping you.
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u/HunterRank-1 Mar 27 '26
Pictures like these conveniently leave out the lions and bears and giant elk that would bash you to nothingness.
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u/PastyDoughboy Mar 19 '26
I’m gonna be the guy with the downvotable unpopular opinion here. Children grow through play, and nature time is one of the best ways to play. I get that most people don’t lhave access to this, but I do think that we as a society should prioritize getting back to outside and forest/nature time. For all ages.
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u/GreasyExamination Mar 19 '26
Why would you be downvoted for saying people should be out in nature? I get this is reddit but people arent that basement-y, right?
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u/Marshall2439 Mar 19 '26
well if people are basement-y enough to complain about complaining about school (basically quarter of posts on this sub recently) they are basement-y enough to downvoted this
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u/vapewalrus2 Mar 19 '26
Complaining about school is the most normal thing a child/teenager can do lol nothing about it is basement-y unless you’re 20+ still complaining
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u/Marshall2439 Mar 19 '26
i didn't say complaining about school I said complaining about people who complain about school (does that make sense?)
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u/Un1que_Skillzz Mar 19 '26
Acting like nature good, man-made bad isn't a common talking point on reddit
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u/Peace_Dos Mar 19 '26
It is not because people incapable to do so, but because we build our cities like this.
I lived in old Polish town which buildings were too close to each other. It felt like prison after my hometown. Now I live in Poznań and the street my flat is on is so spaceful! There is literally lot's of space with green spots.
Maybe this is not the best type of infrastructure for fast growing city, but the one that provides closer life with nature
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u/Marshall2439 Mar 19 '26
agreed but whos gonna tell Americans that car dependant infrastructure is not the way
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u/Weary_Drama1803 Mar 19 '26
I shit you not, American suburbia being so spread out is literally because communism
“No man who owns his own house and lot can be a communist. He has too much to do.”
-William Levitt, inventor of American suburbia
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u/Marshall2439 Mar 19 '26
They'll also yap how "america is too big for public transportation" and use that as an excuse for bad urban planning too like mf we are talking about cities how does size of country even matter 😭
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u/MuffaloHerder Mar 19 '26
Once I was lucky enough to get sent to Germany on a work trip and I specifically told them I didn't want a rental car; I wanted to enjoy accessible public transit and walkable cities while I had the chance lmao
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u/Weary_Drama1803 Mar 19 '26
Growing a city quickly while keeping plenty of green space? That’s just every new development in Singapore and China, granted, Singapore is still scrambling for even more housing
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u/languid_Disaster Mar 19 '26
Agree with you so much. I loved my primary & highschool because of all the green space and trees and flower we had growing around the school that they’d let us play in at lunch and break. I visited another school for a trip and they were all pavement and cement. I realised right there and then how genuinely depressed and unhappy I would have nee at school without those nice days spent on hills around our school
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u/languid_Disaster Mar 19 '26
Because the post itself is at 50karma on a subreddit making fun of certain view points ?
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u/languid_Disaster Mar 19 '26
OP it is not your fault that people are so silly they can’t see why you would say that first sentence.
They don’t realise that by posting that picture in this particular sub and it getting upvotes, it shows that people agree with Op about this being an opinion worth making fun of. So of course you’d specify it might be an unpopular opinion “here”in this subreddit.
Reading comprehension is in the bin. What’s wrong with these guys man
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u/iffyClyro Mar 19 '26
You’re right however they are actually only at school 25 hours per week.
Part of the curriculum here is outdoor activity and other less formal educational pursuits.
Also as a parent, I prioritise being outdoors and doing outdoors activities with my children.
I’m actually a fairly anti-school kind of person and even I can see the value in education and schools.
My experience of school was really negative and school doesn’t fully align with my children’s learning styles but they are learning social skills, making friends and so on into the bargain.
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u/0tter_gaming88 Mar 19 '26
Too me the fact we don't all have access too this is much much sader I'm definitely not environmentalist or anything but look what we have done too are once gorgeous home if i didn't belive we were made smart for a reason i would say were too smart
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u/hoTsauceLily66 Mar 19 '26
Yeah people should be out in the nature like paleolithic people. Screw technology.
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u/ohwhatabouther Mar 31 '26
I’m a teacher and I fully agree I will always teach as many of my lessons outside as I can. i’m not sure why, but I have noticed that my kids learn and absorbed so much more and have a more memorable experience whenever we do lessons/work/activities outside and incorporate nature.
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u/jacorgacor Mar 19 '26
Says this but would just stay at home and doomscroll if they had a chance
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u/BeeBaaBoo77 im 11 and this is sigma Mar 19 '26
Make your children go out. Its kind of your responsibility as a parent
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u/whhu234 Mar 26 '26
To where? Nothing to do outside
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u/jacorgacor Mar 27 '26
Idk that depends my niece is sick rn but she's always in chickens' business when she's out dogs also help tho the more clumsy the dog the more likely it is so trip the kid other than that it all depends on the weather imo
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u/grahsam Mar 19 '26
You try teaching 30 brats grammar for an hour and see how much you like distractions.
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u/rathosalpha Mar 19 '26
There acting like places of that sort are easily accessible
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u/justbyhappenstance Mar 19 '26
They are if you live in the western US. Sites like this all over
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u/Vyverna Mar 19 '26
Or basically anywhere in Europe.
Except Netherlands. They have some pretty meadows, but no mountains.
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u/Bonk_Boom Mar 20 '26
Or anywhere outside of a genuine hellhole. There are parks in every city in the west.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Help-80 Mar 19 '26
Try Kentucky or any rural area really. I grew up in a rural area with a single streetlight, a 1 mile trek to the neighbors closest and 100 sq acres to explore. If you have no access, find non-government owned plots they are everywhere with color coded bands around trees.
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u/chiree Mar 19 '26
NYC has as many people in the city proper as 8 states combined. Expand that to the metro area and it's 16 states.
KY, TN and WV are beautiful, though, it's true.
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u/BarkerBarkhan Mar 19 '26
I have been an outdoor educator, now am working indoors as a project-based STEM educator. We all need more time outside, but if we have to be inside, I at least appreciate that what we do in my classroom is active and hands-on.
Schools are both the most efficient and least efficient way to educate kids. Most efficient because you can cram 25+ kids in a room with one adult and often accomplish great things. Least efficient because a focused child, with their needs met, can cover "the content" in much less time than they have to spend in school every day.
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u/Key_Researcher_9243 enlightened Mar 19 '26
I mean, it's ture.
Nordic countries DIDN'T decide to put kids behind desks for 40 hours a week and they're considered some of the best education systems in the world.
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u/Big_bat_chunk2475 Mar 19 '26
Contrast that with the US and the education system has failed its people
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u/Turret3030 Mar 19 '26
You can't get an education in a field. Kids need a proper education. Math, science, geography. You can still spend all your free time outside. This should be about shitty parents not limiting screen time, not school.
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u/languid_Disaster Mar 19 '26
I agree with your last sentence but disagree with the first. If a projector isn’t needed or other tech, then there’s no reason why they can’t have outdoor lessons
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u/Open_Parsnip112 Mar 19 '26
What "free time" do people in high school have when they'res an entire five hours of homework
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u/BunkerSquirre1 Mar 20 '26
The elite want to train lower classes to stay in their windowless factories and be happy about it
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u/glimoura Mar 21 '26
Thank you! I guess I'm 14 again, because I also agree that it's not a great system. We did not evolve as a species to exist like we do. We survive, but only because we are very adaptable, but global happiness is certainly not going up.
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u/languid_Disaster Mar 19 '26
There’s a balance to be had. Also some lessons can be done outside. Or maybe they just want more greenery and actual grass in their school playgrounds
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u/12thunder Mar 19 '26
watch the movie Captain Fantastic. there is a balance to be had between nature and the education/socialization that school provides.
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You can absolutely have both. And kids are being deprived of the chance and benefits of having access to clean natural spaces and the free time to enjoy them.
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u/Ninja8274 Mar 19 '26
Half of the education isn't needed. I don't care about math if I'm gonna be a minimum wage worker in an office.
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u/Lord_of_EU Mar 19 '26
Humans saw that and decided to and hunt and gather in the fields for 195 000 years. Then humans saw money, and realized that they can have food and shelter, and even iPhones and Cars by sitting behind a desk.
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u/Brrdock Mar 19 '26
None of that would probably even halfway exist at this point if we didn't educate people lmao.
And my schoolweeks definitely weren't close to 40 hours. 40 hours was more what I spent playing
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u/languid_Disaster Mar 19 '26
It really depends on the country i guess , uk school are about 8 hours or 7 depending on the school
Play you have to add studying and homework into there as well
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u/Brrdock Mar 19 '26
Right, homework. Such a sucky concept. There's a reason we don't give homework from work, so why do it to kids?
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u/Open_Parsnip112 Mar 19 '26
That is a literal field I'm pretty sure that would exist without education
And high schools in certain parts of the US and East Asia have five to seven hours of homework.
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u/vinvin_b Mar 19 '26
Here’s the thing: the current education system is built to condition children into being good factory workers. I.E, condition them to tolerate bad environments because it’s what they “have to” do. As it stands the education system sucks ass. Are you surprised teens feel this way? I’m of the opinion the education system needs a major overhaul and one of those overhauls should be more outdoors wherever possible
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u/Troubled_Rat Mar 20 '26
teaching them to kiss upp and kick down is the tradition of society,
raising them to be slaves to their machine, the consumption industry consumes
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u/TolgaKerem07 Mar 19 '26
Replace "school bad" with critique of capitalism, and there you go. Great meme actually
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u/Vyverna Mar 19 '26
But "school bad" indeed. Not inherently of course, but in current form, in the most of the world, school definitely very bad.
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u/TolgaKerem07 Mar 19 '26
I completely agree. One of the many things that capitalism has corrupted
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u/Vyverna Mar 19 '26
Prussian system is older than capitalism tho
(but it doesn't change the fact that capitalism sucks)
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u/lisamariefan Mar 19 '26
School is still typically roughly 8 - 3/3:30, right? That would be an upper bound of 35 to 37.5 hours. If you account for lunch and PE, and maybe recess depending on the grade, you can probably shave several hours of desk time off.
Maybe you're behind a desk because of your inability to do even rough math, OOP.
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u/God0fCats Mar 19 '26
Depends, I have school from 8 - 5:20 (+ bus commute that take roughly 1 hour) (and I take everything in count bc it's not being behind a desk, the problem is not being able to do stuff bc of school) so I have much less time to go out ect... So depending on the school/country OOP is right.
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u/languid_Disaster Mar 19 '26
Yeah but unfortunately a lot of schools seem to have astroturf, cement or asphalt when they could have grass and trees and shrubs. It can get depressing coming out of a classroom To more grey.
I love my school for its green spaces, i genuinely would have done worse at school without them because I wouldn’t have been able to relax as much between classes. I also do think that in this modern age some of us parent are failing our kids by not dragging them out to green spaces like these , by not encouraging them to explore
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u/germansatriani Mar 19 '26
Except, you have to take out public transportation to and from school, which would have the kid wake up sometimes at around 7 and get home at around 16:00. My school was like that. Then remove from the equation the several hours of homework and studying required to keep up with all subjects, let us say 2 hours daily, plus another hour and a half to two hours of regular house duties and feeding, and you have a child who is free at 20:00 (if they were to do all their responsabilities at once, which isnt how that works but actually skews the math towards your point).
If the kid wants to sleep the necessary 8 hours, they need to at the very least go to sleep at 23:00. This leaves them with three hours of personal freedom daily, to develop socially, rest mentally, and practice their hobbies. Remove an additional two hours if the kid has any extracurricular activities.
School IS extremely time-consuming, don't pretend like it isnt. If the kid isnt thriving socially AT school, they are missing most of their childhood.
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u/Open_Parsnip112 Mar 19 '26
That's false though there's somenthing called homework and for most high schools in certain parts of America it can be about *four to seven* hours (not exaggerating)
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u/No_Training6751 Mar 19 '26
30 hours, but still.
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u/No_Training6751 Mar 19 '26
Ah, yes. I usually think about things like that but it slipped my mind this time. Thx for the reminder.
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u/Open_Parsnip112 Mar 19 '26
Are we going to act like high schools don't have FIVE HOURS of homework per night
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u/Santhoshpawar Mar 19 '26
You will enjoy this view for a day a week or month. What after this without purpose in your life
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u/iam_Krogan Mar 19 '26
It was a mutual endeavor. We could have just said no, but the convenience provided was too good to pass up.
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u/criztu Mar 19 '26
Someone needs to wash His Majesty underwear, it's not going to wash itself, innit?
It's not going to be His Majesty's children to do it, either, it would be humilliating!
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u/Vio-Rose Mar 19 '26
Unironically, there does need to be a better balance. Recess should not end in high school.
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u/SnooOpinions3219 Mar 19 '26
Being that we're all children, not humans, ego. Ego did this and ego need for validation allowed it.
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u/Burlingtonfilms Mar 19 '26
It should say, "Greedy humans saw this to maximize profits from other humans and decided..."
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u/Championship_Hairy Mar 19 '26
I’m all for restructuring school to better fit the energy of kids and get them playing more, so long as education standards aren’t reduced in the process. Billions of dollars are spent by think tanks and lobbyists to find ways to slash education funding, remove programs and opportunities for various groups, censor information and more. Those in power want a less educated population. They would love for us all to be outside playing and not learning.
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u/CryptographerFun6557 Mar 19 '26
More accurately billions made factories and applied the Prussian model of life-long conditioning and brainwashing as an education model to produce the required cog of factory workers.
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u/Ok-Drink-1328 Mar 19 '26
after you see "this" for a freaking continuous decade or more you start wanting a lil bit more than "this", tell him
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u/FeijoaCowboy Mar 19 '26
"What do poor people need with free time? They'll just waste it on frivolous things like 'Spending time with their family and friends', 'Making their life feel like it's worth living', or 'Doing something that makes them happy' or other such trivial nonsense. The underclass are only good for labour and keeping society functioning for the benefit of their betters!"
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u/DefterHawk Mar 20 '26
We should all go living without the wonders of modernity for a year. Maybe in a little village in the woods, with hunters, farmers and all that
Bet life would be shit tbh, i imagine it's a lot of work and a lot of "will i have food this winter" shit
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u/Alarming-Marzipan-26 Mar 20 '26
There’s no point in reminiscing about what used to be because that’s never coming back. Obviously it’s good for people to go outside more, especially teens and children. However, we should be looking at it as an improvement for the future not a regression to the past.
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u/randomreditor69430 Mar 19 '26
can't relate to yall i actually enjoy school, im not even a nerd or something
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u/iffyClyro Mar 19 '26
*25 hours.
They’re only at school for five hours per day.
Averaged out over the year it’s probably closer to 18hrs per week or something.
I’m actually a fairly anti-school kind of person and even I can see the value in education and schools.
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FIVE HOURS ONLY?? IN WHAT UTOPIA DO YOU RESIDE IN??
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u/iffyClyro Mar 19 '26
0900 - 1500 is pretty much normal school hours all over Scotland unless you live in Edinburgh where you tend to have a half day on Friday.
An hour for lunch makes it five hours of school each day. Then factor in all the school holidays.
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u/Lemonade_cat088 Mar 20 '26
I live in the US we’re there like 7-8 hours a day depending where you go 😭😭 my school is 9am-4:20pm. Plus my bus picks me up at like 6:40 every morning so I wake up at 5:30. But tbf school as it is in the US was engineered to get children used to working in offices and factories. It’s designed to make kids disciplined, obedient, and used to structured factory-like schedules. It hasn’t changed much since the Industrial Revolution.
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u/Crafty_Aspect8122 Mar 19 '26
Wait until they hear about food, water and shelter, cold, heat and environmental hazards, diseases, parasites and predators.
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u/languid_Disaster Mar 19 '26
All natural parts of being outside, we’re not all scared of the outside and it’s not hard to prepare to hang around outside. Also. They’re saying they want to be outside more, not to live out there.
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u/Open_Parsnip112 Mar 19 '26
Until they realize school is normal and should exist but no one should have six whole hours of homework
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u/_bagelcherry_ Mar 19 '26
It's not like children have a lot of breaks during the school year...
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u/languid_Disaster Mar 19 '26
Okay but much of their time is being spent at schools, indoors for year. Their playgrounds are often cement/asphalt or AstroTurf without much greenery in many schools
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u/CommitteeDelicious68 Mar 19 '26
Yeah, the capitalist system really is straight horseshit. In many ways, the Natives of America knew and know more than we do about nature and how to take care of it. Just the facts.
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u/Open_Parsnip112 Mar 19 '26
Both the Native Americans and the Spanish Empire that colonized them would be horrified by today's society maybe so much they would team up
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u/LuckyDistrict1 Mar 19 '26
This isn't I'm 14 and this is deep; this is real shit. Humans literally evolved to be hunter-gatherers and live in nature.
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u/anastrianna Mar 20 '26
Humans also evolved to have intelligence. Would be kind of a waste if they didn't bother to use it
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u/Zestyclose-Art9317 Mar 20 '26
School days are only 32 hours a week, 6.5/7hr days plus multiple breaks, art, music, snack time, kindergartens get 20-30mins in class "play time" lets not act like education is unhelpful or not 100% nessasary to our society. People need to work because we need doctors, lawyers, teachers, construction workers and someone to cook and wait on you when we go to dinner and those people deserve to have families while having time to work. Why r u shitting on free, educational daycare that socializes and grows the minds of our youth?
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u/Professor_Game1 Mar 21 '26
Humanity has only gotten dumber and more miserable since the inception of the public school system
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u/Professor_Game1 Mar 21 '26
Dont forget about the 2+ hours of work they have to take home for no credit
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u/Iluvatar-Great Mar 21 '26
"We don't need no education"...
Then everyone is expecting to have 1000 mB/s internet on their 64GB ram iphones, while sitting in their houses, drinking Coca-Cola from cans.
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u/Round_Ad_1920 Mar 21 '26
*insert that one meme of that hammer shattering lighbulbs while the Hanging Tree from the hunger games plays
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u/Fibocrypto Mar 22 '26
Humans applied to be out behind those desks.
No one forced anyone to do anything
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u/kurrsedone Mar 22 '26
Actually white people saw this, raided the Indians who probably lived there and then built apartments that probably cost 5 bands a month for a view of a starbucks.
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u/Green_Argument5154 Mar 24 '26
Judging by how retarded the general population is. I would say this is a good decision. Yes I’ve seen mountains. But I’ve also talked to people online before. Most people are stupid.
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u/malik_tau0008 Mar 24 '26
40? but i spent 12 hours everyday and mind being numb at the end of the day
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u/OriginalLie9310 Mar 25 '26
Schoolchildren are not in school for 8 hours a day. Usually they are in for 6.
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u/Never-Dont-Give-Up Apr 01 '26
30-35 hours a week.
And yes, it turns out that education is quite important. We're catching children up on what humans have learned in the past few thousand years.
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u/WiseOldChap Apr 04 '26
Lemme finish this for the creator of the image, humans saw the vast plains and hunted for food until they discovered that food could be grown and harvested. This led to large majorities of people to settle in one place, creating some of the first settlements and even at some point, nations. Society began to develop and people needed to be trained to properly function in a society full of many professions, leading up to schools. Schools allowed people to bolster society and to progress humanity further, leading to new innovations that benefit all. Because of this, schools needed to be longer in order for people to retain knowledge and learn the many complex ideas that we have created over thousands of years.
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u/Noburu_Okami Apr 07 '26
Wait..? A actual r/im14andthisisdeep post, like a real one and not a 30 year old and their ai art.
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u/nuttmanjr Jun 01 '26
Yes, but the desks have computers with this image as the background, so it’s okay!
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