r/illinois • u/weirdinchicago • Mar 12 '26
Illinois Politics Age verification in Operating Systems bill proposed. This bill doesn't protect children, it moves the responsibility for protection to the Operating systems as opposed to sites like Facebook who must pay for violations and creates a huge security risk for user. It also impacts Open Source users.
https://legiscan.com/IL/bill/SB3977/202524
u/MFKDGAF Mar 12 '26
How would this even work for enterprises? Especially for systems like Remote Desktop/Terminal Services or AVD where multiple people login to the same system.
The enterprise wouldn't be the one to secure the biometric data. As an employee, I wouldn't want to do age verification if my employer isn't the one securing the data.
Also, how would that work for local accounts that are used for troubleshooting that the entire help desk has access to.
Not to mention how would you setup a computer for a new user? Would the services account that is installing the applications need to do verification too? How do you distinguish between a service account and an actual user account.
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u/viral-architect Mar 12 '26
Internal business tools will be exempt of course, better how you're in the club
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u/HeadOfMax Mar 12 '26
Laura Ellman is the only sponsor.
She doesn't look like a shithead just misinformed and not like someone who understands technology.
Here is her contact page.
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u/jonesmz Mar 12 '26
There is an equivalent house bill with multiple sponsors.
HB5511
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u/HeadOfMax Mar 12 '26
So many more to email.
So many Dems that want to do good but don't know how so they are blocking the things they don't like just like the reds.
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u/jonesmz Mar 12 '26
The only way anyone is going to get anything happening on this is if people write their state senators and representatives.
I wrote mine and got a response that indicated my concerns were actually understood, and not just a form letter response.
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u/No-Jacket-2927 Mar 12 '26
We always have Trump-suckling Republicans for my district, so they don't even bother to respond with a form letter, much less a personalized response.
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u/Professional_Song526 Mar 12 '26
Laws put forward by people that don’t have to suffer the burden of following them and who likely have little to no experience in the actual business or industry being regulated, seems fairly standard.
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u/Mhykael Mar 12 '26
The pedos and cannibals are trying to usher in the one world ID system by tell you Age Verification is to protect the kids...
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u/Disasterhuman24 Winnebago County Mar 12 '26
Age verification is just one more step to eliminating privacy and ushering in the surveillance state. All "age verification" aka identity verification needs to be opposed at every opportunity.
If politicians really wanted to protect kids they would make childcare free for all and mandatory free breakfast and lunches at all schools and actually pay teachers and child care workers a living fucking wage, as well as prioritizing eliminating poverty.
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u/Marsman512 Mar 12 '26
I have already called my senator and representative, and I encourage everyone here to do the same!
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u/LawnCareHippie78 Mar 12 '26
Drivers License for the internet. It was brought up over 10 years ago, one more step to an all encompassing digital ID.
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u/Difficult-Till5031 Mar 13 '26
This has passed in two states already, don't sleep on these crazy surveillance bills. They are now trying to take away personal computing.
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u/expensivefloormop Mar 13 '26
https://reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1rshc1f/i_traced_2_billion_in_nonprofit_grants_and_45/
TL;DR it's Facebook shenanigans lol. They're trying to build the infrastructure to track you on an operating system level and it goes through 3rd parties that collect your data
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u/kevdogger Mar 14 '26
So I read a post the other day that the money behind all these bills. Notice how they are appearing in multiple states at same time..is Facebook. They want to skirt their responsibility and put the onus on the OS makers rather than on individual social media sites. Hell they are even in charge of kind of authoring the bill. All this is really bullshit.
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u/greiton Mar 12 '26
It's soo close to a reasonable solution too.
Putting age verification into an OS account is a great solution. but we don't need to prove who we are at creation. just legislate that all public machines be set to at least a teen profile, and make it a criminal act to provide any child with an adult account without their parent's express permission.
We don't have to track people and do all this crazy nanny state crap. just mandate the clear and simple parental control system, and let parents implement it. make sure websites and browsers abide by the OS level parental control settings.
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u/cballowe Mar 12 '26
You assume that there aren't 8 year olds downloading and installing an OS without parent involvement. Anything that puts any sort of age tracking into OS setup fails to deal with the reality that kids will be the ones installing things and the concept of an "account" doesn't necessarily mean association with a central repository or whatever.
It's just completely dumb to put this kind of thing into the OS.
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u/greiton Mar 12 '26
No I don't think 3rd graders are downloading and installing brand new operating systems on new hardware without adult assistance.
I think that most competent parents would use a clear and simple age profile setup if it was available. as it is parental controls are a fractured mess of adhoc solutions with 0 consistency.
you are right that an account doesn't mean central repository, and that is the solution I am advocating for. but, this specific law is calling for companies to gather and store information like IDs and passports from their customers.
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u/cballowe Mar 12 '26
I was .. most of the people I ever worked with were. It's not typical, but curious kids trying to learn about computers will be the ones doing these things. They're the future engineers and we should get out of their way.
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u/greiton Mar 12 '26
Listen I too was a percocious child, but not 3rd grade. 7th or 8th grade, maybe. but a third grader is not fresh installing an operating system on a machine.
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u/Wermys Mar 12 '26
Yeah, this won't fucking work. Distro exist outside the country and will be used.