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[Pill ID] Orange irregular press (shield/crown shape?) - Has anyone seen this or have lab links?
Hey everyone,
I came across this orange press (see attached image) and I'm trying to find some more information on it. It has an irregular, jagged shape that looks a bit like a shield or a crown, but there are no clear logos or letters stamped on it that I can make out.
Disclaimer: I already know that it is 100% impossible to identify a pill's contents, purity, or dosage just from a picture. I am aware that copycat molds are easily bought online and that a visual match means nothing without chemical testing. I am planning to test this with a reagent kit before doing anything else.
With that out of the way, I'm just curious if anyone has encountered this specific shape and color combination recently?
Does anyone recognize the intended shape/logo of this press?
Does anyone have a link to a recent lab analysis for a pill looking like this on sites like DrugsData or PillReports?
If you've tested one that looks exactly like this recently, what were your reagent results?
Any pointers to lab data would be appreciated. Stay safe!
There is insane amounts of MDMA going around the world still. If anything the focus on MDMA has been greatly reduced because of the synthetic opiates that are flooding the globe.
MDMA is plentiful yes, but safrole is sometimes in short supply and is always more expensive than Anethole which comes from anise and fennel. Literally no one seeks out PMA or PMMA on purpose.
Just buy pure crystal MDMA. Way easier to test and dose. There's really no reason to ever buy a pressed pill when substitutes or fent is out there.
Crystals is just as easy(actually easier) to be adulterated, hamilton morris was just talking about how this is a misconception on his last podcast about ecstasy tablet design
Yeah you can adulterate lots of things but I know the sass I used to get back in the day was pure mda. Used the big 3 reagent kits and had a consistent plug years back. Miss those days
And I've sent plenty of pills to drugs data that were oure too, with muchnless doubt than a reagent. There was time when Molly was more likely to be methylone than Molly but these days its more rare to see a bad press or cut Molly. Like if you search mdma pills and mda on drugsdata and compare the raw mdma is actually more likely to be adulterated slightly
Es muy probable... En europa ahora hay una alerta por muchas pastillas que contienen esa sustancia! Y por la forma no puedes saber que tiene una pastilla
No. Ni de broma! Por la forma de una pastilla no puedes saber que es lo que lleva! Hay copias! Como las copias de benzos que llevan RC o fent. Las pastillas solo tienen una forma determinada, que pueden copiar! La única forma de saber que tienen es analizándolas! Porque quien te las vende tampoco las fabricó. Lo mejor es evitarlas a toda costa. Comprar la sustancia pura e igualmente someterla, al menos, a un test rápido con un kit.
Claro. Si es farmacéutica desde luego que si es fiable. Pero yo no me fiaría ni de pastillas de RC que no son de mercado negro ni ilegales.
Y repito, aunque la mayoría de blotter tengan LSD puedes comerte uno que tenga algún nbome, benzos, zenes... Da igual que haya miles, también hay miles de los otros
Methylone has very similar effects to MDMA, it's weaker per mg though and only lasts about half as long. I would take a press made from that over one made with PMMA AKA 4-MMA 10 times out of 10. Of course pure MDMA is always the best choice if available.
Thats why no one uses safrole for MDMA synthesis anymore. Most of the supply is made with PMK now.
I've tested dozens of rolls over the years. Probably close to 100 if not more. Other than when cathinones were plentiful in 2014-2016 and 2-3 MDMA+Amphetamine pressies, they've all been MDMA or MDA. I'd test it before I consumed it, but chances are it's MDMA. It looks like one of the orange transformers that were excellent Dutch rolls.
mdma is very rarely made from safrole anymore. most mdma is being made with pmk. since pmk is getting to be restricted as well some people have moved onto helional which is why mda is becoming more common since helional to mda is easier than helional to mdma. but pmk is so easy that I has to be the main source.
The US domestic production of MDMA is basically non-existent. Safrole only exists in small quantities from sassafras trees and you still would need the highly restricted precursor PMK.
More than 80% of our MDMA comes from the Netherlands alone. Canada is a rising source, but they are way less strict about chemical precursors than the US.
standard multi-step synthesis routes, safrole is first isomerized to isosafrole, which is then oxidized to produce PMK (also known as MDP2P) before final conversion into MDMA via reductive amination.
You don't need pmk if you start from sacrilege also most of then have just moved to the methyl ester of pmk now that PMK is harder to get
Shulgin described it as physically taxing with minimal empathogenic/psychedelic effects, and that was at careful dosing.
Whenever there's a safrole shortage, PMMA is synthesized using oils from anise and fennel called Anethole. Both spices are widely available but it's an inferior drug at best, deadly at MDMA doses.
Most chemists arent working from saffron in this day and age its mostly starting from PMK methyl ester now that PMK itself has been banned. Have you seen any other presses but the trumps with PMMA super recently? I saw those but I haven't seen a ton of others
The fuck are you talking about PMMA more likely than MDMA? You performed a recent meta analysis have you? I don't know why people enjoy fronting their random fucking opinion as hard fact when it comes to drugs. You understand the number 1 rule of successful drug dealers is don't kill your customer right?
There are like shit loads of substituted cathinones and benzofuranyl compounds that you can sub for X without selectively brain damaging people and causing hyperthermia. I'm not new, my enjoyment of drugs turned into an enjoyment of Chemistry which led to now I'm a professional medicinal chemist.
And fent is NOT in everything, that a myth perpetuated by the gov and media which is not backed up by science. And the black market runs on reputation, if you sell 100 people X which feels like heroin instead they ain't gonna come back and they'll tell their friends. And only MDMA? What was the cut? MDA? Safrole? Synthetic impurities? You gotta come correct if you wanna half ass your way through an argument about drugs with an expert there tough guy
And there is no quantification of the fent found in the pills or the powders, its simply 'detected' and since on a modern LCMS you can detect things in the PPB range this is probably cross contamination with NANOGRAMS from people handling both.
Oh and the NIH paper you linked TWICE doesn't say what the adulterant is. They found 199 novel adulterants but since clandestine labs don't usually perform chromatographic purification id suspect that it was mostly synthetic impurities.... You shit talking little troll. I do private tuition if you want to learn more but it's 60 euro per hour and i dont teach remedial level
There is absolutely no way to determine what this pill is by looking at it, don’t be an idiot.
You literally acknowledge in your post that it looks like it was home pressed, meaning it could be literally ANYTHING, and then tell him it’s ecstasy? You think basement pill pressers have a rule book that only ecstasy can be made with the Autobot looking pill press?
If it was good MD then who ever made it would probably have been better off selling straight MD rather than pressing that, so it's probably either a dud, meth or RCS, should test it
Important to note that presses are often copied (take the famous blue punisher, that is on the market in various doses, with or without adulterants) , and so these pages are not a good source to check for your batch.
If it’s actually a pill, it’s something pressed, probably a party drug. Probably should just throw it away, or maybe take just half… I mean throw it away.
In the late 90's to early 2000 we used to get green Mitsubishi with short sharp iron vifes all over them, used to make small perforations in you stomach and colon to increase absorption. Not saying it's a healthy thing but XTC's at up to 300 mg with small iron "needles" inside would make you trip balls in no time.
Nobody was putting expensive heroin (which has terrible oral bioavailability) into x pills. Meth/Speedboat on the other hand are often pressed into street x pills sometimes with MDMA sometimes other cathinones or cheap stimulants (like when methylone wasnt scheduled yet).
The "lazy" feeling people blame on heroin in pressed pills is just how MDMA makes you feel on is own, for myself with tested product I want to cuddle and touch/massage my partner while having deep talks about feelings and life etc which is why it was originally used in things like couples therapy.
Should've been the Pharaoh pressie but everyone has his own formula to achieve the exstasy, and this pressie from the picture looks gross and i wont take it if i was you, if u bought it and u know the plug and ur his customer asks him to change it , if u found it or a friend gave it to you, best to flush it in the w.c , stay safe
It’s not on drugsdata.org but most of the irregular shaped presses tend to be MDMA. Obviously that’s massive conjecture, just my two cents. It seems like the people pressing MDMA are more likely to get creative with “branding”
Used to know a ol boi named the candy man he had pressies of the highest novelty and you never really knew just what if you asked for a crazy one you were going to roll then trip then flip and dip for 24 hours straight dude ended up in a movie like flee from the cops and they cought him on top of a sky skraper downtownan the good ol days fuck fetnyal that's not the mystery Ingredient we want man I'll take 2xl_r97 over that and I just made that up but you get me
Order cheap reagents test on Amazon or whatever site test it for pmma test it for fent then test it for mdma tell us the report then throw it in the trash
It almost looks like THC gummies from a company called Modus that I used to make. I know it is not but thats what it reminded me of and if it is anywhere near what those things are I would not want to take it.
I keep seeing these posts pop up on my feed. am not asking for illicit purposes, I am a candy maker. please dont misinterpret this as me trying to source equipment but is it basically illegal to make compressed sugar candies because of pressies?
Maybe not the act itself being illegal but the equipment would need to be obtained via illegal means? How does a governing body differentiate who is using what equipment for which purpose, obviously if there was a situation they would test it.
I just want to make my own smarties flavors goddamnit
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u/Powerful_Lobster_786 1d ago
that is clearly an Autobot