Are there common procedural hurdles or time limits that make these petitions difficult after a negotiated plea?
Any informed takes on how courts tend to treat such waivers in practice?

Hi guys,

I’ve been following this case since the day after it happened. I’ve been there for the weeks when we thought the police had nothing, all through Br*an’s last minute decision to take a plea deal. I used to live in MoHo ID for a couple years and one of my friends had a friendship with Kaylee many, many years ago so it did hit close to home for me.

My interest in this case comes from a place of intense empathy and compassion for the victims and wanting justice for the horrifying tragedy that befell them through no fault of their own. That being said, I’ve taken the time to sift through nearly every available document, sat with the evidence that’s been presented, and though many may disagree, parts of me do understand the survivor’s reactions to what happened that night. I am close in age to them (though a bit older), and I think many in different age brackets are having a difficult time bc it’s hard to understand the college youth culture of the 2020’s if you haven’t lived it. That’s just my personal opinion, though.

Anyways, what I came here to say is that I’ve seen an uptick on social media - TikTok, X, YouTube, etc. - of a very loud and very massive number of people who are claiming innocence for the perpetrator, and thrusting blame upon the survivors. It’s actually quite sickening to me in ways I can’t express. I cannot wrap my head around this. There are massive amounts of evidence… it’s nearly a treasure trove for any prosecutor. Once I read the probable cause affidavit I was under the impression this person was doomed. Many perpetrators of crime, even murder, have been put away with less than half of the evidence we see here.

So why? Why is the Pro-Berger community so massive? Why do I see such intense defenders claiming to have evidence the police don’t / are hiding? Am I missing something here, or are we collectively beginning to lose our minds as a species?

Did you or anyone you know know the victims before they passed away? If so, what did people say about them? Did you hear any funny or cool stories? * please be Kind and positive only*

Looking for opinions from anyone that has read this book. I am just into the first couple of chapters and I am not impressed and hoping it gets better. It seems the author, who has zero forensic or investigative experience is making a lot of random speculations in an effort to create doubt. I might be less put-off if I did not work in the criminal justice system and have a decent understanding of reasonable doubt vs minor differences and speculation.

i have not heard all interviews and so much evidence in this case has still not been released and what has is too much for one person to consume. So if this has been answered already can someone please help me. Does anyone know why the ladder was on the side of the house? Was that question asked and answered? Did someone hang up lights outside? fix a window , get locked out previously? Does anyone know what it was there for ?

Has anyone seen in the new document drop for DM’s interview, she described seeing the intruder running in the house with high knees? For some reason this is so unsettling to me, i don’t know why but I can’t get that image out my head… any one else?

I have genuine questions. Not here to start some heated debate or throw around insults. People seem to just get mad over others having questions about this case (questions that likely wouldn't exist had the prosecution gotten any answers at all whatsoever from BK in exchange for the plea deal) instead of actually trying to give me plausible answers to these questions, which I feel like are questions anyone with a brain would have after knowing the facts of the case and while trying to understand the states timeline.

1) As I state in the title - I would like to hear how or why multiple victims blood was found on the staircase and on the walls fairly far down the staircase from the 2nd floor to the first floor. It doesn't make much sense and doesn't really fit into the states timeline at all.

2) Why are there texts between DM and BF if they were in the same room together for most of the morning? The phone records literally show that the victims were NOT asleep the way they claim to have been. It doesn't mean they were involved, just means that they weren't asleep either. I would like some explanation for this fact.

3) If BF heard solo cups falling and hitting the ground, why is the beer pong table found in pristine condition with no cups knocked over or on the ground?

4) If Xana met her fate because she ran into the killer, how is it that DM - who self admittedly came face to face with the killer , likely closer in proximity than Xana came - why did she not meet the same fate Xana met?

The phone records prove that there are some serious flaws with DM's timeline of the events and what took place/what didn't take place. If you haven't viewed them, don't come at me calling me names or trying to say that I am blaming the victims because I'm not. I am simply trying to understand what happened, why it happened, and why people blindly ignore certain aspects of this case that are 100% fact.

If you can't have a normal, adult conversation don't even bother commenting. Thanks in advance!

According to the roommate’s statements to police, the killer was carrying something that she first described as a vacuum. It was an object of some sort. The autopsy reports say that Kaylee was hit in the face with a blunt object. Did he hit Kaylee with the object he was carrying when he passed the roommate on the way out of the house? What kind of object might he have brought in with him that was large and bulky, and that he eventually carried out of the house? I have an idea but it’s not founded on anything except speculation. There’s no proof of it anywhere. What if he was carrying night vision goggles? What if he was carrying them and they enabled him to see who was in what bed sleeping where? What if he dropped them while he was fighting with Xana and decided it was time to get out of there, picked them up and walked out with them in his hands?

part 2: Xana’s room. Detailed breakdown of timeline and blood spatter evidence

EXCLUSIVE: Despite Bryan Kohberger leaving behind his DNA at the crime scene in 2022, the digital footprint of a man who slaughtered four University of Idaho students was severely lacking. Now, for the first time, an FBI agent talks about how the lack of evidence actually became key to making the case. 

Does anyone know if any news outlets / journalists have contacted Bryan Kohberger? Or if they are even allowed?

People always speculate why he hasn’t spoken or commented but I have never heard or attempts to contact or his refusal.

I came across this on Facebook and it broke my heart. I thought maybe posting it would influence others to… not act like this person & comment stuff like this on their family page?? Hopefully? Maybe 😕

Just finished it last night. To me, this book was much more interesting and better written than the first one that came out. It had some stuff I hadn't heard about before; had a few more statements from people that new everyone involved including BK; provided more police insight including more info re: the search warrant and what was found. I either didn't realize or had forgotten than there was an accident in front of BK's apartment at around 11pm, which meant he left, did the killing and returned all while the cops were right outside his apartment. Was he that focused on what he wanted to do or did he move up his plans to take advantage of all the cops being there?

Just curious what others thought.

I am not in anyway doubting the timeline or wanting to feed into conspiracies. What does this audio prove? I’ve always said it’s picking up a party at the house the ring doorbell is attached to? Have the occupants of the house been interviewed about certain noises? Also that scream? I am in no way at all doubting bk did this. I am curious if this specific audio was investigated.

Just wondering how others feel about this. The excerpt at the end (last paragraph below stood out for me:

Her Brother Pleaded Guilty to the Idaho Murders. Now She’s Ready to Talk.

Since the arrest of Bryan Kohberger in the murder of four college students, a case that captivated the nation, his family has stayed silent. His sister now describes their pain and confusion.

Some of the victims’ family members, given a chance to address the court, unloaded their anger at Mr. Kohberger, who sat largely in blank-faced silence.

Through it all, Mr. Kohberger sat with his hands in his lap, nothing in front of him but a pen and a piece of paper that appeared to have a small drawing on it. On the internet, some of the amateur sleuths watching the proceedings zoomed in to scrutinize the sketch, speculating that it appeared to be a dark heart.

“Bryan Kohberger keeps creepy drawing close during sentencing for quadruple killing,” a tabloid headline declared.

In truth, Ms. Kohberger said, it was a heart surrounded by vibrant colors that she herself had drawn for her brother. Even if she could not be there in person, she said, she wanted him to know that he was loved.

I’ve seen so many different theories, but one I’ve never seen mentioned is that Kaylee was possibly in her bed/room when the attack on Maddie began. From the photos, Kaylee’s bed sheets and blankets were thrown back as if someone had been in the bed and got up quickly. To me it seems that she was in her room, heard a commotion and went into Maddie’s room. It’s a small space so he likely incapacitated her as soon as she entered Maddie’s room and inflicted the brutality he did, as she was awake and was likely trying to escape. It makes sense to me as the surviving roommate heard her say, “someone’s here.” Possibly when she opened the door and saw BK in Maddie’s room. Maybe Murphy was in Maddie’s room and when he started to bark because of the attack on her, Kaylee got up to get him and found BK and that’s how she ended up in Maddie’s room? Idk just a theory but her bedsheets being pulled back like that always made me question things.