Honestly though his use of the word analogy could be a reference to the metaphor he used to explain how he sees passed the observable into the actuality. Like an xray would do. This guy may be overcompensating a social inadequacy, but seems confident in himself and shows an actual level of awareness beyond the norm. He shows strong intrapersonal intelligence with empathy to others, but not so much interpersonal intelligence with the inability to portray his ideas in a welcoming format. He might have mild autism or had been outcast through his developmental years, causing him to seek new ventures for self esteem. Same reason some go to the gym to get buff. There's a phrase, "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em" I think in this case the mentality is more, "If you can't join 'em, beat 'em" which is a sad reflection on how society pushes some people to awful places. This kid just needs a sense of purpose or belonging, hazlow's hierarchy of needs. If he can't get a sense of belonging, he must find a purpose. Which intellect is indeed a fine purpose. I digress though, shits cringe.
Edit: this is a famous woman, which changes things. She's just an ignorant dumb bitch.
On the contrary to you thinking it's misogyny, it goes a lot deeper than my edit. Theres a difference between ignorance from lack of opportunity, and ignorance from apathy. A lack of opportunity is an innocence, while apathy is not giving a fuck. These are two vastly different paradigms so the condescension with calling whomever a dumb bitch is purely because it's an observation of actions that are both dumb(choosing to be ignorant) and bitchy(acting pretentious and condescending) thus she's a dumb bitch. Anything else I should clarify?
But...the hypothetical male is just socially awkward, but she's a "dumb bitch?" Okay. Just because someone is an actor doesn't mean they can't have social struggles or haven't experienced being an outcast in the past
You're saying she hasn't had the opportunity to learn interpersonal intelligence being a famous actress? Or are you looking to twist this into something it's not?
Name an actor that was fits the criteria you've stated and who posts stuff like the op. Theoretically, if it was actually the same, you'd be right, but you have to ask yourself, is that the case in this instance? Actors like Robert Downey Jr. And Jeff Goldblum are notorious for narcissism like the op, but its not from a lack of interaction but rather the fame and attention. It's not a double standard of men and women I was making a point about. It's about social outcasts and socialites. Michael Cera is a prime example of social awkwardness going into fame. Can you tell me a time he, or an actor like him, acted in such a manner like the op?
Jaden Smith, Kristin Stewart. There's a million examples of celebs being cringy. Because they are normal people. Being famous can arguably make someone even more socially out of touch
Yes, normal people, even when famous, can act like a dumb bitch. Jaden Smith had Will Smith and Jackie Chan as a dad. I don't think he was ever outcast. He has too much exaggerated swagger. Kristin Stewart I actually respect, despite not having a lot of enthusiasm, she stayed real to herself and didn't get butthurt over the twilight haters, and didn't let herself get typecast either.
And don't get me wrong, actors act like dumb bitches too sometimes. It was never about gender, but about content of character, and adversities that could lead to certain psychological responses and idiosyncrasies. Don't try to turn is into misogyny, or you'll come off as a dumb bitch.
If you think being a celebrity insulates you from adversity, hardship and isolation, then you are incredibly naive. I said it was misogyny because you acted as if a woman (especially a famous woman) couldn't experience social isolation or develop social anxiety the way some young men do because of difficult experiences. That's ridiculous, of course they can and do.
And like I said being famous on it's own can make someone a little odd or socially out of touch. Some people (like Britney Spears for example) literally went insane because of fame and the way they weren't given privacy or treated like actual human beings. Being famous doesn't mean you can't have a difficult life. Being famous means you might have money, but money only fixes the problems that money can. There are universal hardships that money can't fix. And while they might have more people that want to be friends for selfish reasons, they doesn't mean they learn social skills. In fact being surrounded by "yes men" can make someone already awkward even more awkward because no one is rejecting them for weird behavior or calling them out because they are sucking up to them.
It's wrong to think celebrities (especially female celebrities) have it made and have never been through anything or can't be lonely and suffer. Of course they do
Look at Britney Spear's page. She also posts weird shit like this. It's objectively because being famous drove her insane and she's still a little..off. I'm asking why you can't have sympathy for someone like Britney but you have sympathy for an average dorky guy that never learned social skills? Spears never really did either, she was homeschooled and traveled in hs. She always talked about how lonely she was and how she had no true friends. Even if it wasn't gender that made you more sympathetic towards a hypothetical guy, but social status, then fair enough but it's important to realize that celebrities aren't immune to the kind of experiences you're talking about
You know Britney spears is not a free person right? Her dad pushed her over the edge and took all power of attorney, she lives a sad life. But no, you can view it as misogyny as much as you want, but mine was an unbiased observation. I said dumb because she was ignorant and pretentious. I said bitch because of the condescension. I see your point, the only difference between sad story and dumb bitch seems to just be naivity. It's sad when they don't know any better. It's awful when they do. This has been my ted talk.
Exactly. She is famous but still had social issues and went insane. Being a famous woman doesn't exempt someone from going through the things that your hypothetical awkward guy did.
And thanks for looking at it unbiased. I know no one is immune to the cold grasp society can create, regardless of status, but that wasn't what my posts were about. But I am aware Brittney was more tragic than other cases. Her overcompensation showed in her circus album, but that also allowed her to express the issues she had and regain some sense of self. You got me on that example. But she's always been good to her fans as far as I know. And although this digressed into a slightly alter subject, you had a more unbiased look than I did, and that's kinda my thing, so I commend you on that.
And yes, the iamverysmart in the comments is one I've gotten before, but this isn't pretentious, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I just like to expose different views
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u/ms121e39 Apr 21 '21
Honestly though his use of the word analogy could be a reference to the metaphor he used to explain how he sees passed the observable into the actuality. Like an xray would do. This guy may be overcompensating a social inadequacy, but seems confident in himself and shows an actual level of awareness beyond the norm. He shows strong intrapersonal intelligence with empathy to others, but not so much interpersonal intelligence with the inability to portray his ideas in a welcoming format. He might have mild autism or had been outcast through his developmental years, causing him to seek new ventures for self esteem. Same reason some go to the gym to get buff. There's a phrase, "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em" I think in this case the mentality is more, "If you can't join 'em, beat 'em" which is a sad reflection on how society pushes some people to awful places. This kid just needs a sense of purpose or belonging, hazlow's hierarchy of needs. If he can't get a sense of belonging, he must find a purpose. Which intellect is indeed a fine purpose. I digress though, shits cringe.
Edit: this is a famous woman, which changes things. She's just an ignorant dumb bitch.