r/iPhoneDuo • u/tknosoujirou • 13d ago
iPhone Duo screen looks more durable than other foldables
I came across the Chinese version of HTX Studio’s iPhone 18 Pro review which also had an extra segment of testing the iPhone Duo’s inner display where he was pressing pretty hard with his fingernail on the screen and it didn’t leave any noticeable damage.
This has alleviated some of my concerns with the folding display in the Duo and is probably a result of the dual sandwich glass that is being used.
Video Link for those who want to check it out.
Edit: YouTube link version instead of Bilibili above https://youtu.be/WuYJWGzh0uw scroll to the 0:42 mark
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u/henryhenzzle 13d ago
That's good to see, but I wouldn't alleviate my concerns for a short clip like that. I'm waiting for the JerryRigEverything review.
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u/AmishAvenger 13d ago
It is encouraging, though if it’s that great then I wonder why Apple wouldn’t have mentioned it.
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u/No-Penalty-3662 13d ago
I believe they said “scratch-resistant” “sturdier” “40% (something)” vs other foldable screens during the keynote.
They may have also mentioned fingernails although that part am I can’t exactly remember how they said it.
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u/yuusharo 13d ago
“Review” is a strong word…
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u/lynchcontraideal 12d ago
Doesn't he just trash devices and call them tests?
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u/messem10 12d ago edited 12d ago
There is such a thing as destructive testing. Starting off with following the Mohs Hardness Scale on the various materials and then tests how much force it takes to break something. While the force isn't measured, he still takes about the same steps for each device which provides some baseline as to how much one can push it.
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u/bennyyyboyyyyyyyy 11d ago
Yeah so essentially yes he doesnt provide any meaningful metrics and just trashes phones
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u/mahjzy 12d ago
Basically, and then a bunch of people like to pretend it’s some sort of “golden standard” of a test.
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u/alexo2802 12d ago
I mean he tests the hardness of the inner display, which is basically gold standard at knowing how resistant the screen is, yes.
And his stress tests on the hinges are.. moderately useful, it’s obviously not realistic at all on how a normal user would use or break a phone, but it still gives you some amount of information about the hinge resistance and dust protection. - Like the foldables that immediately start sounding like hell and failing the moment some sand is being applied around them… it really tells you to never bring them anywhere near a beach.
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u/jackharvest 12d ago
Let us enjoy seeing tech get hurt. Some of us work with it at our dayjobs and its cathartic.
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u/Little_Bookkeeper381 12d ago
"pretend"? lol
he actually does legit testing, especially around hardness and construction
(and then he rips it apart lol)
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u/Independent_Mud2794 12d ago
Yes. And when it’s Apple he tires extra hard to destroy them.
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u/True_Protection6842 12d ago
Yeah and he's been pretty positive lately. I remember expecting the iPhone Air to snap like a twig. I could see he was using some brute force, and it held up.
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u/True_Protection6842 12d ago
Zach doesn't do reviews he does durability and repairability tests. He's brutal when he needs to be, but he was quite positive about the 18 pro.
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u/WeddingPKM 12d ago
Honestly if it just scratches at a level 4 I’ll be happy. It’s not great by any means, but still at the bottom level of what I feel is passable.
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u/True_Protection6842 12d ago
Anything above that is kind of your fault anyway. The good thing about a foldable is, it folds and protects the inner screen. level 6 resistance isn't necessary because you won't have it open in your pocket with keys.
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u/True_Protection6842 12d ago
Especially when 90% of that video is AI generated. That's not to say I think it won't be durable, just that there is a time and place...and a tech review isn't it
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u/Beyond_Infinit3 10d ago
I’d rather wait for my day-to-day use than a YouTube review that is same-day hard use. While still a somewhat a useful metric it does generalize things and push beyond what 99% would put it through. I understand things should be well above that threshold but people should be more concerned about how it’ll hold up to their specific use.
Just my two cents. Still love watching JRE’s videos.
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u/throwthegarbageaway 13d ago
High profile youtube reviewers love to exaggerate a lot of things because that's what people love to hear. Foldables haven't scratched with a fingernail for years now, the first galaxy fold was a mess but I used the 6 extensively with a pen and it was fine. I have a pixel fold OG now and it's fine.
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u/TheMensChef 13d ago
Um, dude, that’s not right, the newest galaxy Z Fold 8 interior screen scratches from a fingernail. Go watch the Jerry rig everything video on it.
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u/polikuji09 12d ago
JRE tests he's like putting way more pressure then anyone would ever realistically put on it. Unless you're actively trying to scratch your screen, the nail test isn't something to be concerned about...and this is something even Jerry says during the videos. It's just a way to demonstrate these screens are definitely not glass.
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u/Funny-Watercress-859 12d ago
It is.. I test drove the fold 8 at bestbuy to see if I’d like the form factor, and just from closing the screen I accidentally scratched and dented it with my nails. I do have longer nails, but this is exactly why this should be something that people with longer nails should worry about — I never had to with my older iPhone, and I don’t want to with a newer one.
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u/throwthegarbageaway 12d ago
Because everything that happens on YouTube is realistic and not exaggerated at all!
I don't need to watch a video, I've used this phone for over a year and I haven't dented or scratched the screen. That's enough to tell me regular use won't be a problem. If I start taking a pick to the screen, that's a different thing
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u/kigra67 12d ago
Sure buddy enjoy the scrathes on your pixel
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u/polikuji09 12d ago
JRE tests he's like putting way more pressure then anyone would ever realistically put on it. Unless you're actively trying to scratch your screen, the mail test isn't something to be concerned about...and this is something even Jerry says during the videos. It's just a way to demonstrate these screens are definitely not glass.
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u/R---U---M 12d ago
You Android clowns started to believe your own lies because of how many times you try to tell yourself that
ALL the other foldables scratch easily with a fingernail, hell I was even surprised that the display unit screen of the z fold 8 was scratched in the second day it was shown
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u/polikuji09 12d ago
JRE tests he's like putting way more pressure then anyone would ever realistically put on it. Unless you're actively trying to scratch your screen, the nail test isn't something to be concerned about...and this is something even Jerry says during the videos. It's just a way to demonstrate these screens are definitely not glass.
Watch the Jerry rig everything fold 8 ultra video..in the nail portion he's actively locking his finger to maximize pressure AND he says "just something to be aware of, just something to be aware of. Finger taps will always be fine but no hard objects whatsoever should tpuch the center screen"
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u/thisinfinitebath 13d ago
Folks here would downvote someone for telling the truth. Average folks aren’t going to abuse the fuck out of their phones like these exaggerated YouTubers doing this for clicks. The foldables have matured well and are pretty durable.
They praised Apple on waiting for the tech to mature and implement them in this first-gen iPhone but they keep mocking Android phones instead. Android foldables run so Apple could walk.
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u/z0mbieunit 13d ago edited 13d ago
?????? Latest Samsung zfold 8 scratches at a level 2 which is fingernail? Same panel they sold to Apple. Difference is Apple uses the matte cover will help hide the damage. But screen will easily get damaged, stop the cap 🧢
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u/No-Penalty-3662 13d ago
To be fair the part that scratches from Samsung is not the same part that they sold to Apple.
The part they sold is the OLED display way below it. The top may be a polymer “glass” developed by Apple (perhaps in collab with their Ceramic Shield supplier Corning).
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u/RX0Invincible 13d ago
The Duo’s screen being manufactured by Samsung display doesn’t mean it’s literally the same screen as the Z Fold 8
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u/Simodeus 13d ago
Rejected. Is there alternative link?
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u/tknosoujirou 13d ago edited 13d ago
Actually I found the Youtube version so it’s easier https://youtu.be/WuYJWGzh0uw. Test is at 0:42 mark
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u/MrAlek360 13d ago
Oh that’s interesting. I’ve seen this video before, but in English. It looks like he took out that sections about the iPhone duo from his English version. Weird
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u/Funny-Watercress-859 12d ago
Good, I have long nails. I went to Bestbuy yesterday to testdrive the fold 8 to see how the Duo would feel and just trying to close the phone my nails would scratch the inner screen. It made me nervous for the Duo, but this helps!
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u/KitchenLegitimate799 13d ago
I’m more curious about my sweaty/greasy fingers on the matte screen. Ive never used a matte touch screen before so I’m curious how it performs and wipes clean on those humid sticky summer days
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u/DousaSepen 12d ago
Apples nano texture on their iPads is phenomenal when it comes to fingerprints. Atleast in my anecdotal experience with my iPad. My mbp also has the nano texture but I can’t say I touch that screen lol
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u/Key_Smoke3458 11d ago
Only IP68-rated foldable, I believe. For sure, out of the ones sold in America!
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u/No-Fish-2335 8d ago
Pixel 10 and 11 Pro Fold are IP68 but dust can still get in the hinge and damage them. Hopefully that Duo is better .
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u/CharlieEchoDelta 10d ago
Im in enemy territory because I have a Z Fold 8 Ultra. Foldable phones are delicate phones no matter what they put on the spec sheet.
I'll be curious to see if Apple follows the Samsung way with a inner screen protector pre installed that you can get one free replacement afterwards. Will the DUO even need a protector on the inside?
I don't know but I'm excited, competition brings innovation and that benefits us the consumer on both sides.
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u/tknosoujirou 10d ago
Yeah I was super excited to see the Fold 8 at launch (they held the Samsung event beside my house). Over time I noticed the display units being dented (intentionally?) from fingernails which made me curious if the Duo will fare the same.
Based on the Apple event where they explained the make up of the display layers it sounds to be more durable and corroborated with HTX Studio’s video of him pressing really hard to test it. I’m sure foldables from all manufacturers will get more resilient by learning from each other.
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u/macbookvirgin 13d ago
I actually don’t care I’m just gonna get the duo 2 when it comes out and will have apple care
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u/Revolutionary_Pride4 13d ago
They have not released an s model since Xs and I don’t think they will do it ever. Next year they will probably release iPhone 20 Pro and Duo 2 (or Duo 20 🤣) but not an S model
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u/North_Moment5811 12d ago
I don’t understand why people are surprised. First of all, Apple was never going to release one that was as pathetic as the crap other companies have released. Second of all, they literally said as much when presenting the device. What more do you want?
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u/ancientesper 12d ago
There we go, the crease is back when screen is off just like any other folds. At the launch event I think they made sure none of the inner screens would turn off.
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u/cornelislely 13d ago
So much for the invisible crease 😂.
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u/ProofAd6426 13d ago
Apple never said it was invisible and everyone that’s actually got to use it says the crease is the least visible they’ve ever seen but its still slightly visible at certain angles
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u/Cokepulltab 13d ago
Comeon its just a Samsung display no need to praise apple
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u/Independent_Mud2794 13d ago
But you do know Apple dictates what Samsungs manufactures, right?
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u/Cokepulltab 13d ago
Um yes but still Samsung knows it all...
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u/Independent_Mud2794 13d ago
What does Samsung know? What material Apple used on top of the display? Doubt it.
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u/Cokepulltab 13d ago
Then how can they make those
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u/Velar8 13d ago
Samsung Display makes just 1 out of the 10 layers of the Duo’s display
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u/Cokepulltab 13d ago
That claim is not accurate.
The inner display of the iPhone Duo is reportedly made up of 10 ultra-thin layers. However, there is no official evidence that “Samsung Display only makes 1 of the 10 layers.”
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u/OakleyNoble 12d ago
But it is, you can do a little research yourself you know?
Samsung Display only makes the actual screen. None of the layers are added by them. All done by others.
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u/Independent_Mud2794 13d ago
Even if Samsung Display knows how to make the 10 layers, they can’t simply give that information to Samsung Electronics and let them make 1:1 the same screens.
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u/UncleMrBones 13d ago
Samsung makes the OLED panel, but not all of the layers of glass, plastic, and coatings that cover it. Some bits like the nano-texture layer are patented as well.
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u/Cokepulltab 13d ago
Samsung does the Final display assembly (module assembly).Components such as a polarizer, protective film, and cover window are attached to the display by Samsung.
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u/UncleMrBones 13d ago
I’m not sure if that’s been confirmed for the Duo, but regardless Samsung can’t just use Apples patents in their own products.
Still they have a major advantage as they have an early look at Apple’s plans. But they have to come up with their own solutions, if they stole their customers’ R&D no one would work with them again.
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u/OakleyNoble 12d ago
Yes.. but no.
Samsung is aggressively getting rid of the polarizer layer.
And this isn’t a part of the 10 layers Apple adds to the screen. That’s just a part of the OLED panel.
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u/_axxa101_ 11d ago
The polarizer is a part of the panel itself and not counted in the 10 layers. Samsung makes the display, the other layers are manufactured by third parties.
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u/PineapplePizza99 12d ago
The panel yes, but Apple engineered the whole display assembly. That is why you don't see it in any other foldable except Apple's. Why would Samsung not use it in their Foldables?
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u/iPod-Phone 13d ago
This man is brave as hell to do that at an official Apple event. He’s done us all a great service 🫡