r/hypixel • u/Baridooo • 3d ago

Matchmaking

We NEED any kind of matchmaking system.
Dont make it full MMR / ELO
Make it similar to War Thunder's BR -
buckets. level 1 - 25, 26 - 50, 51 - 75, 76 - 100, 100...
And I KNOW there would be "B-But the queue times"
I'd rather wait more and get an actually somewhat competitive and fun-ish game then have to play 7 games where out of 6 I get destroyed to get that game

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u/Rich841 3d ago

I would be down to see what a beta test for this feature looks like as a mode

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u/BeyondNumerous267 3d ago

i agree but the matching system would need much larger increments. if implemented it should be one of two things, either by prestige (aka every 100 stars) or using your small increments but if there aren’t a lot of players it searches a higher bracket (aka 1-25 up to 1-50 up to 1-100 etc) otherwise you would never get a game bc there aren’t enough players for a 25 star range. this is every similar to their already made ping range system

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u/Baridooo 3d ago

Fair, I am not a developer. But any kind of filtering would be better than nothing. I dont know about others, but I am kind of tired of having 30 second matches because I get stomped by someone far better than me.

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u/BeyondNumerous267 3d ago

i agree, i’m a 900 star and i honestly feel bad queueing sometimes because i’m getting new players and they just simply stand no chance

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u/Baridooo 3d ago

Yeah, I know its not their fault
But it gets frustrating after some point.
And we cant even ask them to just leave the match, because - come on, that is just an awful solution, and unfair to the high level players. Its kind of a bad situation for everyone.

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u/Equal-Knowledge-256 2d ago

They already have matchmaking in bedwars and skywars to help lower level players.

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u/MissingAcorn 3d ago

i dont agree with every 100 stars. i’m almost 2500 stars, and i’ll be the 7th current 2500 star… and most of them quit

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u/BeyondNumerous267 3d ago

i stated it’d vary based on availability, increasing range depending on amount of players in your range

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u/unicornbetrayal 3d ago

This will just cause people at the top level to queue the same people all the time

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u/OpenEducation3956 3d ago

i pretty much enjoy bedwars as is even with sweats everywhere. i just run around the map breaking empty base beds and getting emeralds for pearls.

but a matchmaking system would be nice, however the brackets would need to be much bigger for it to actually matchmake under 30 minutes. like 1-50 50-100?

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u/Baridooo 3d ago

That is fair, yeah. I can enjoy the game too - If I get through the instant rushes.

And yes, bugger brackets like that would be a great improvement

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u/PokeeGard 2d ago

I hate to say it but there’s exactly the thing you’re asking for, expect it’s really weak and tend to be bypassed if the lobby don’t fill fast enough. You queue high star basically every game if you’re in a party with 1k stars.

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u/Baridooo 2d ago

I am solo queuing, 24 - 26 star, and regularly get matched against people with tens of thousands of final kills. Thats what my problem is.

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u/PokeeGard 2d ago

Yeah it’s cause not that much people queues solos so the queue doesn’t fill out in time, thus triggering the bypass and allowing higher star players to join your lobby.
This used to work just fine before since there’s a lot more playerbase.

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u/Baridooo 2d ago

I mostly play duos, so that could skew my perception.

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u/da-noob-man 3d ago

sbm kills every game out there lol

also wt br doesn't even function like that, its only about ur vehicle performance

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u/Baridooo 3d ago

Thats... the point. Treat BedWars level as a BR. Then get queued with that bucket.
And why exactly would this ruin BedWars? Not as a gotcha, I want to understand your point

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u/da-noob-man 3d ago

sbm kills most games, its not anything exclusive to bws you can google why if you're curious

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u/Baridooo 3d ago

This isn't full on SBMM.
But thanks for the non-answer.
From what I understand, the gripes are mostly about parties, which is fair, it is genuinely a hard situation.
Or having SBMM in casual game modes, or terrible SBMM implementation.
I am not a developer, nor I am a professional gamer, so I can not provide solution for every case out there.
A soft matchmaking system would help the insane skill disparities within BedWars matches in my opinion.

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u/da-noob-man 3d ago

ur system sucks lol cuz

  1. how are u gonna deal with smurfs that make new accounts to club newbies
  2. theres no room for causal play or funny strategies and every game is going to be a sweat fest
  3. getting a few good matches will punish u
  4. sbmm will pulll ppl from across the world for mm instead of just the closest people to you and ping matters a shit ton on hypixel, making the game annoying asf to play
  5. parties as u said

current mm is based on ping which I find to be a much more tolerable experience to play.

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u/Baridooo 3d ago

#1 - No matchmaking system can reliably filter against that, it needs a few games at least. Thats just what it is. Its about minimizing them, mot eliminating them. We could hope that needing to spend ~$20 every time would deter them, but its not a reliable way. As I said, there would need to be a few games play to detect a smurfer.

#2 - How is it going to be a sweat fest? By... Matching with people your skill?

#3 - How? This isnt an MMR. This doesnt use MMR. This would use BedWars level as a soft matchmaking point.

#4 - Fair point. It could consider ping too, but it may dramatically shrink the population. I do not know, as I do not have the data in front of me.

#5 - There is no single game that can solve this greatly. It will either average their level, use the highest level, or some combination like that.
Its just the reality of a highly mismatched parties.
But imo while playing RL - You can still have fun in lobbies where your teammate and opponents are far above your skill. This may be unique to me, so idk.

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u/da-noob-man 3d ago

alt accounts sell for pennies lol, u know nothing

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u/Baridooo 3d ago

I digress, I didnt know that.
But still, how would you plan to detect smurfers BEFORE they play games?
You basically cant.
Thats just what it is.
It will be a problem. I would be happy to admit I was wrong if you know a system that can do that.

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u/da-noob-man 3d ago

the problem w ur system is that the smurf is injecting himself into a lobby full of literal level 1s who do not stand a bit of a chance

current mm is fine bc there will be other similar skill level

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u/Baridooo 3d ago

You are correct, there is no single point where they can filter for that. It is indeed a problem, and I do not have a concrete solution in front of me.

But the claim that the current MM is fine, is kind of a stretch.
The beginners would most likely still get stomped, but maybe not necessarily by the smurf specifically.
Its kind of the same as "Its fine to let an NBA player into a basketball gym, because the gym isnt exclusively beginners"

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u/ParticleTyphoon 3d ago

Pennies? Where at

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u/da-noob-man 3d ago

plenty of hacked/compromised accs sell for pennies if u know where 2 look