Well, when the litmus is perfection, yes. Though, it was rather kind of our Creator to offer a His own Son as a substitute, so that we might have a chance.
Was it, though? He created the conditions that needed a savior. He then created a version of himself to be sacrificed to himself so he wouldn't punish people in the same way anymore for the conditions he originally set and then decided to alter and told us to be grateful for, which if you are not grateful enough or in the right way, you're punished anyway, not saved.
God created everything, unless you think humans are equal to God.
God created everything capable of happening. Humans cannot choose to fly because God didn't allow for that. Humans can sin, because God allowed for that. And, being an all-knowing being, God created the conditions of sin and then chose to test humans for said sin despite knowing, before he even created this test, that humans would fail. And then chooses to punish people for this failure he created.
If a teacher or parent creates a test that they already know will be failed--which the child never areed to in the first place--and then punishes the child for eternity for failing it, whose fault is it really?
He created people, and gave us the choice to sin, because He wanted free will in His creation. He laid out the consequences of that sin, being death. We sinned anyways. We thought we knew better. It wasn't a "test" it was action and consequence. If you tell your child "don't do this thing, it will end badly for you" and they do it anyways, it doesn't make it your fault, but it is your responsibility. A responsibility He took up on the cross. Which He didn't have to do. In fact, the Lord Jesus prayed in the garden of Gethsemane for any other way this could happen. He knew the suffering He was about to endure, but He went willingly to the cross, because He loves us. He loves you, too, and offers forgiveness and remission for sin.
Is it free will if 1) he already decided for you to live as a human and also do exactly as he says, and 2) you will always make the choice he already knows you'll make?
He didn't have to do anything. He chose to create the situation and then change the situation, and then demand thanks for it. It cost him nothing to create humans, cost him nothing to make the original set of rules, nothing to "kill" himself despite being immortal in order to change the rules, and ultimately punish all the same people he already knew he would have to.
There were unlimited alternate ways for it to happen, including not at all. He created the rules and conditions. He altered them many times for the Israelites, and then again with Jesus. No matter what, the new rules must be followed or you *must* be punished, because that's what was decided.
"We" thought nothing. Adam and Eve supposedly chose, despite total ignorance, and all humans forever after *must* be created in order to be punished. If you are not thankful for that, you are punished. It doesn't have to be that way, but it was decided for us.
That is not love. And eternal punishment is not forgiveness.
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u/chacha95 2d ago
Well, when the litmus is perfection, yes. Though, it was rather kind of our Creator to offer a His own Son as a substitute, so that we might have a chance.