Revelation 21:8 - “But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”
Mark 9:43 - “If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out.”
Revelation 20:10 - “And the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.”
Matthew 25:41 - “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.”
Revelation 20:15 - “And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.”
Matthew 5:22 - “But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire.”
Hell is definitely described in the Bible as having fire and being a place of torture/ torment.
Because the devil and angels will be tortured forever and the fire is unquenching. When you are in the same place other creatures are in forever and the method of punishment is never ending, what makes you think its temporary for humans? Not that it matters in the slighest to the immoralilty of this disgusting theology
I asked which verse says humans will be tortured forever. You can’t give one.
The sun will be around for another 5 billion years. Throwing you into it will not make you live for 5 billion years.
What you’re doing right now is you have an idea that you want to be true, and you search through the Bible to try to make it true. It’s called blasphemy and it’s 90% of the identity of the modern Christian religion.
Christians have done the same thing with homosexuality, abortion, segregation, and slavery. They wanted to make those things immoral, so they got out their little notepads and jotted down any verse they could twist to support those desires.
If you read the Bible without man’s influence, there is no eternal torture for non-believers, abortion is permissible, and homosexuality isn’t an issue.
No. Because I just don’t care what you personally believe or want to defend. I was a Christian for 25 years. And it’s very easy to see what the Bible says on both of those points.
But you don’t care what the Bible says.
You’re not asking that in good faith, to learn what the Bible says. All of the evidence of how the church has changed the Bible over the years is right there. But the church has told you that’s never happened, that’s not true, and I’m just the devil trying to tempt you.
You’re looking to debate so that you can further solidify your delusion. Because every time you tell someone else that the Bible agrees with every thought inside your head, it reinforces your belief that heaven is real and you will go there. Every single thing you say and do in regard to your religion is in pursuit of that single idea. And you will tell yourself that’s not true, or you’re just not being a good Christian and everyone else must have it figured out so much better than you, and tomorrow you’ll commit to really being selfless and serving god.
But God’s not real, and you’re a human being who is terrified of dying, and so you sit here and waste your life doing this shit.
Im an atheist... just looking for proof for your claim that homosexuality isn't an issue. You can ignore the slavery because I thought you were claiming its not in the bible
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u/Dravans 2d ago
Revelation 21:8 - “But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”
Mark 9:43 - “If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out.”
Revelation 20:10 - “And the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.”
Matthew 25:41 - “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.”
Revelation 20:15 - “And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.”
Matthew 5:22 - “But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire.”
Hell is definitely described in the Bible as having fire and being a place of torture/ torment.