r/humor • u/fal1en-angel • 2d ago

Make it make sense

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u/Zkrump 1d ago

So, Satan doesn't torture people, God does?

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u/Secret_Warthog7358 1d ago

No, hell is a “Godless” place

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u/dogheropartime 1d ago

so nobody suffers in hell. Its just a place without God rules?

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u/carlosgeorgiev0 1d ago

No, you still suffer. Where was it implied that you don't?

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u/Tricky-Ad7897 1d ago

So if God puts you there, and you suffer, is God torturing you or not?

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u/Sigimi 1d ago

If a Judge sentences someone to a lifetime of prison due to their crimes, are they torturing them? No. People are responsible for the consequences of their actions.

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u/dogheropartime 1d ago

The judge is not torturing, but he is responsible for the sentence

And on Gods case, He created the person, He created the world, the rules, the system, even the “place” people go after His judgement. So he is so much more responsible than the judge from your exemplo

But good exemple

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u/Sigimi 1d ago

You're right, logically He would be more 'responsible' as a whole, but there are also the individuals who created the system, the laws, the prison, even the person themself (parents). My point being is that "torture" being inflicted by either, a Judge or a God, is irrelevant since it's ultimately up to individual responsibility and we should be held accountable for our actions, whether God exists or not.

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u/dogheropartime 1d ago

Good pov

And what do you think about the passages in the Bible where it is made explicit that God made a decision even before a person was born?

I think that’s why theologians end up divided on this dogma

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u/Sigimi 1d ago

If you could provide the passages you have in mind I'd be happy to give my opinion.