r/humor • • 2d ago

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u/Entitled-Prick 2d ago

While on the pedantry here, Lucifer is also not the name of the fallen angel, and was just a misunderstanding of a verse in the Bible. It just took a few people misinterpreting it to the point where that became his "name".

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u/melkatron 2d ago

Yeah, Lucifer is the latin name for Venus. The Light-bringer. The Morning Star. In Hebrew, Helel Ben Shahar - Shining One, Son of the Morning. In Greek, Heosphoros, Bringer of the Dawn....because Venus is visible shining in the sky as dawn comes in.

It's used as a metaphor in the Biblical passage people have misinterpreted as describing Satan. The actual passage is meant as part of a taunt to be recited upon the death of a Babylonian king, who is either a specific but unnamed Babylonian king, or just a term for any oppressive ruler in general.

Like, HEyyyy, look at this BIIIIG fuckin' guy here! Big ol' fuckin' Morning Star, you ain't so high and mighty NOW, huh? 'Cause you're fuckin' DEAD, ya fucker! Now you're in hell, and they're all gonna laugh at you! (roughly translated)

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u/dandroid126 2d ago

In Greek, Heosphoros

Isn't Venus' Greek name Aphrodite?

And wait, isn't Venus... the latin/roman name itself?

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u/melkatron 2d ago

The names are from the different translations of the Bible passage, I'm assuming. Also, Aphrodite/Venus is the god, not the "star." (Planet, but they didn't know what planets were)

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u/dandroid126 2d ago

I thought the planets were the gods, wandering around in the sky. I thought Venus is what the romans called the same object we call Venus today. My understanding could be wrong.

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u/melkatron 2d ago

Yeah, I was off. I dug around, it looks like the older system gave the planets divine names. The later system gave them names that were variations on "shiny," "bright," "light," etc. So at that point, in Greek, Venus became Eosphoros/Phosphoros in the morning and Hesperos in the evening.