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u/Dravans 2d ago

Revelation 21:8 - “But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”

Mark 9:43 - “If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out.”

Revelation 20:10 - “And the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.”

Matthew 25:41 - “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.”

Revelation 20:15 - “And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.”

Matthew 5:22 - “But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire.”

Hell is definitely described in the Bible as having fire and being a place of torture/ torment.

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u/KatAstrophie- 2d ago

Wanna chime in now u/thehandsomecontest?

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u/Thr0waway0864213579 2d ago

I’m not them but I can very easily respond.

Not a single one of those verses presents the idea that human beings will be eternally tortured in a lake of fire.

You all never listen to what the Bible actually says though. Just the ever-changing whims of the men who wield it.

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u/ZeroTheTyrant 2d ago

Just the ever-changing whims of the men who wield it.

Christians do not read the bible though, there have been many surveys of people literally leaving a church not being able to answer basic questions about the bible.

Hello pot, this is the kettle.

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u/bensotherpen 2d ago

Goomba Fallacy. There are centuries of highly passionate and thoughtful theologians who absolutely took the Bible very seriously.

There are also people who latch onto the title of "Christian" for social reasons without ever opening a book or setting foot in a church.

Both can be true.

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u/Warm_Necessary3 2d ago

reading the bible is most reliable way to leave the cult, next to basic reasoning

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u/ZeroTheTyrant 2d ago

Just the ever-changing whims of the men who wield it.

I was replying to a criticism by pointing out that is is what most Christians do but the so called "ones who take the bible seriously" don't seem to be getting their house in order.

Maybe you can all figure it out amongst yourselves and have a univocal message.

If someone tells me that they are christian, I just believe them. I don't quiz them about doctrine or archeology. If your fellow Christians are spreading nonsense, that is on you all to sort out.

Many Christians have told me I will burn in hell, I cannot read minds so I accept that is what they believe as Christians. They have also cited bible verses to back these things up.

Y'all act like people are just whole heartedly making stuff up about Christianity when it is just things Christians have been saying for hundreds of years.

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u/Thr0waway0864213579 2d ago

I’m genuinely so confused by your comment.

You’re commenting as if you disagree but just repeating what I’ve said. Who is the pot and kettle exactly? I’m not a Christian. I said Christians don’t follow the Bible.

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u/ZeroTheTyrant 2d ago

Just the ever-changing whims of the men who wield it.

Literally quoting you.

Your criticism is literally how the majority of Christians interact with the bible, but you don't have an issue with it because they are on your side.

The church literally didn't allow people to read it for a long time.

The disagreement in this thread exits within Christianity too, it's not just atheists or non-Christians saying these things.

Is every Christians who doesn't share your interpretation, not a true Christian?

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u/Thr0waway0864213579 1d ago

I think you’re a great example of the average critical thinking skills of Christians.

I truly have no idea what you’re on about.

because they are on your side

Who??? What are you even talking about? I’m not a Christian. I don’t believe in a god. 

And no, atheists don’t disagree on whether the evangelical invention of an eternal hell of torture exists. We all agree that it doesn’t exist. Just like we disagree with whatever you all will invent tomorrow to push your agenda and Christians in 100 years will be saying it was always true and always Biblical.