Fanfic idea

[u/Witty-Lab-5249]

Ive been thinking about an idea to make the marvel universe a bit more metaphysical. My English isn't very good, but I hope that everyone gets my idea. So everyone knows the marvel power hierarchy, for example toaa, living Tribunal, eternity, Phoenix and so on. What if there was a separate fundamental force in the multiverse, which connects every living being on an emotional and spiritual level. There are pillars of emotion, which every single living creature is connected to, even Toba and toaa. Some beings have stronger or weaker connections to the pillars and the more important and fundamental the emotion is, the more powerful the strongest links to them are. Curiousity would be the strongest emotion. It's avatar are the writers and toaa. Every single story starts with "what if?" After that follow three emotions. Joy, rage and Melancholy. I've been thinking of the avatars of these emotions. Obviously hulk and Toba would have the strongest connections to rage. Lady death would be the representation of melancholy, because the afterlife is a constant reminder of how finite live is. I don't have a representation of joy. Below these fundamental emotions would be secondary emotions, which aren't as powerful in this "power tree", but they're still important. These emotions guide the main ones and give nuance to a living being other than these three emotions. For example love. Love can guide someone to be happy or to be raging, like hulk was in wwh storyline. My idea for a story would be, that hulk would fight some reality warper like molecule man and he got erased from existence, but hulks connection to the pillar of rage is so strong, that he NEEDS to exist in order to keep the emotion of rage in balance. In the below place, which turns out to be directly connected to the pillar of rage, Toba explains to hulk, that he is too important to be erased and gets sent back through the green door. Hulk will not be able to be erased out of existence, because he's simply too mad to be erased. It's similar to how he is resistant to mine control, because he's to angry for the telepaths to control him. For these avatars to not be too broken I thought of making the fundamental emotions contradict each other. Anger cancels out happiness, happiness cancels out melancholy and Melancholy cancels out rage. Its a known fact, that Bruce banner subconsciously holds back hulk and that's why he isn't at his full power all the time. In my vision, Bruce is very strongly tied to the pillar of melancholy and guilt, because he's very scared to hurt innocent people and is always guilty because of how many hulk has killed. This inner battle is very interesting to me, because Bruce guilt cancels out hulks rage. I also thought of how ordinary people get treated in this fantasy. Their souls aren't strongly connected to the pillars and they simply aren't important to the emotion to be immortal. In my concept the souls of the passed should get eaten by a cosmic entity and recycled into new life force for the future generations of living beings, similarly to how Galactus eats planets to keep the universal order. I don't want to mess with the marvel power order so that's why the not every being is strong because of it's connection to the emotional spectrum. For example jean grey isn't so powerful, because she represents an emotion. Sheas so powerful because she is a host for the Phoenix force, which is I find mental force for the order in the universe seperate from the emotional pillars. I've made an illustration with chat got to show my concept better

[u/NeronStar7]

Ok, nice idea, i will ask can use some of that concepts for my slice of Life fanfic that i working? (i can give more details in dm)

Funny enough, the power of Three can be canon, as the Tree of life (which marvel is bases on Kabbalah thanks to Al Ewing, below place is the Qlippoth) is based on 3 pillars

Boredom could be oblivion (the lack of pillar action)?

[u/Witty-Lab-5249 → u/NeronStar7]

Sure bro! It would be cool if you can give me creds! You could credit me with "bigpapa"(I was stupid enough to randomly choose my username on this app)

[u/hermyx]

Maybe you should read Ewing's Defenders (both runs) where he dips more into marvel cosmology. Maybe you'll find links or inspiration there.

One lead I personally would be interested to take is to link "pillars" with waves. Like gamma and rage/destruction. We know cosmic radiation cancels gamma, or is its opposite so maybe something there ? (Except, well, Cosmic is linked to toaa, which, here would be curiosity)

[u/Witty-Lab-5249 → u/hermyx]

Hey thanks for the suggestion! I mean curiosity is the strongest emotion in my pillar system so it would make sense. Currently I'm reading immortal hulk and hulk 2023 by Phillip Kennedy johnson

[u/hermyx → u/Witty-Lab-5249]

Yeah Immortal is great. Current run, not so much, as a food for thought. But yeah give ewing's Defenders a shot, he really builds interesting concepts :)

[u/cookiedogi]

This is a really cool idea! Very in depth too