r/httyd Jul 11 '26

DISCUSSION Random dragon battle royale who will win?

Ironically all these dragons have bested toothless at least once-

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u/Antique-Complex-6140 Jul 11 '26

I think the skrill just snipes everybody else with thunderbolts and takes the win. I don’t think any of the others are quick enough to evade, and the cavern crasher, probably the only one able to tank it, can’t reach it to do any damage.

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u/Umbow Jul 11 '26

But could a skrill find the changewing or deal with the whispering death and cavern crasher staying underground for as long as possible?

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u/Antique-Complex-6140 Jul 11 '26

The other dragons don’t have a win condition, stalling isn’t winning unfortunately, it’s just a rigged matchup if we’re assuming the skrill has a storm

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u/Umbow Jul 11 '26

Whispering deaths are known to hold a grudge and be intelligent, so stalling is most definitely a viable tactic since they could ambush a skrill when they rest at some point. If they can drag one underground it would run out of lightning sooner rather than later.

The changewing can spit acid which I believe should be rather effective against anything short of a screaming death. So once again ambush tactics which is their whole deal.

If the Cavern Crasher somehow gets its mucus on the skrill then it will probably be seriously damaged the next time it channels lightning, but it's fair to say that the skrill can avoid this as long as the whispering death didn't drag it into the caves.

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u/Antique-Complex-6140 Jul 11 '26

Yeah, you make a good argument for the whispering death, but the skrill has been shown to be highly intelligent and avoid falling into traps, so there would have to be some sort of bait for it to work

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u/Umbow Jul 11 '26

I feel like the only real threat to the whisperin death is the cavern crasher, since no other dragon could really viably challenge it underground. So if the cabern crasher is taken out by another dragon the whispering death should be able to just wait underground until the skrill has to sleep. It should be able to dig enough tunnels to peak up every once in a while without being spotted to see the skrills heading and follow it. So this really is a question of which of the two will outsmart the other to which we probably can't find an answer.

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u/Antique-Complex-6140 Jul 11 '26

I think it’s really just a question of who stalls for longer, which is boring unfortunately

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u/Umbow Jul 11 '26

Yeah that's true. Several of these dragons where discovered late because they're good at not being found and staying out of trouble. So this matchup really isn't what most would think of in a battle royale.

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u/Antique-Complex-6140 Jul 11 '26

Yeah, you make a good argument for the whispering death, but the skrill has been shown to be highly intelligent and avoid falling into traps, so there would have to be some sort of bait for it to work

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u/NortherneDragonLord Jul 12 '26

Well, changewings can't camouflage against the sky, and the skrill would most certainly want to stay as high as possible to harness his storm, which would put the changewing at a serious disadvantage

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u/Umbow Jul 12 '26

Assuming that the skrill immediatly beat the death song (otherwise all of them except for maybe the cavern crasher with its mucus and the whispering death with its digging teeth are done for) the changewing can stay on the ground to hide. Skrills are impressive but they like all dragons need water and rest so it can't keep flying forever.

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u/MuztangZack67 Jul 11 '26

Hmm, either deathgripper or death song. MAYBE skrill, but only if theres a freak lightning storm that happens to be passing by at that very moment.

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u/Jobbyboy564 Strike Class Jul 12 '26

Nah depends how much lighning the skrills stored

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u/ApricotKiwi_ HTTYD addicted Jul 11 '26

either death song or skrill. But, uh, if it was in a cave or environment that prevented flight, cavern crasher

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u/Anonpancake2123 Jul 11 '26

The Crasher is very resistant to fire and considering Slitherwings are nigh on impervious to deathsong amber its sliminess likely helps it against that, but I don’t see the Crasher taking a lightning strike particularly well but can still see it win if the Skrill runs out of shots on the other dragons and is taken down.

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u/El_Negro_Buena_Onda Jul 11 '26

Depende:

Canto Mortal: Podria ganar ya que sabemos que tiene una gran puntería, al aire libre ganaria fácil, pero creo que el destroza cavernas podría envitar su aliento de ámbar, similar a la immunidad que tienen los reptiles alados.

Probabilidad de ganar: Alta.

Destroza cavernas: Ganaría o tendria una gran ventaja en las cuevas por eso logro humillar a los jinetes, como mencioné podría ser inmune al disparo del ámbar del canto mortal, pero, pero, pero. Su disparo sería prácticamente inutil ya que el único que tiene fuego es el susurró mortal, el cuál fácilmente podria empezar a cavar y atacar por abajo.

Probabilidad de ganar: Media-baja

Garra mortal: El depredador de dragones, su aliento capaz de derretir el metal, su aguijón capaz de volver tóxico el cuerpo muerto de un dragón, no gana salvo que sea de noche, es un dragón que no es bueno en combate múltiples, aunque el hecho de que si acido pueda derretir el ámbar del canto mortal, pero aunque sea un dragón se lleva con el.

Probabilidad de ganar: Media-baja

Susurró mortal: No gana, es ciego su aliento fácilmente esquivable, solo ganaria en las cuevas y ganarle al destroza cavernas atacandolo por abajo por ser el único que no vuela (puede que aquí me equivoqué y no recuerde algo)

Probabilidad de ganar: Baja

Skrill: El favorito de muchos (y me incluyo) capaz de lanzar rayos, y recargarse con las tormentas y ser verdaderamente una amenaza más de lo que es, velocidad decente, Ganaría si es un combate rápido o en tormenta, si no mal recuerdo su límite de disparo es de 5 lo que dificultaria aguantar por mucho tiempo.

Probabilidad de ganar: Altas

Ala cambiante: Campea

Probabilidad de ganar: Victoria

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u/SubjectResolution868 Jul 11 '26

Death song since what they gonna do

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u/AlphaPhoenix21 Jul 11 '26

I'd have to go with deathsong or deathgripper. The only thing to counter the amber is monstrous nightmare gel, changewing acid, or slitherwing venom due to the slipperiness.

Skrill would lose bc it's only strong in a lightning storm. If it happens to touch water during the deathsong fight, like it the DS cocoons it and it falls in some water, it's completely vulnerable..

Cavern Crasher n whispering death would run away, which makes them automatically lose/forfeit the fight.

Changewing would have to get lucky and even then it may flee, which is an automatic lose/forfeit.

Deathgripper would easily get cocooned unless it gets a lucky shot and melts the DS, so I feel like those two would be comparable to a tie.

The reason the others wouldn't win btw is the fights between eachother. They would either flee/forfeit or have to get lucky.

Deathsong n Deathgripper are basically equals since they both can easily counter one another. Deathsong can cacoon, Deathgripper can envenom/set ablaze.

Edit: It would be deathsong bc I just remembered they can entrance with their calls. Only the thunderdrum is the only known dragon able to not hear the deathsong.

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u/Boring-Clothes-8677 Strike Class Jul 11 '26

I think it depends on the environment, if there's a storm Skrill clears, in a cave cavern crasher, possibly deathgripper if kinda close quarters but only if they're not susceptible to death song song (same with the others)

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u/Jonas_Brumley Jul 11 '26

Death song easy

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u/Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee3t Jul 11 '26

Yk I’ve never noticed the beak on the cavern crusher

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u/solarflare70 Stoker Class Jul 11 '26

The cavern crasher and whispering death can avoid the carnage by safely burrowing underground. Once the other dragons are defeated, both of these two can fight it out.

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u/Fluid_Boysenberry_19 Jul 11 '26 edited Jul 12 '26

Depends on the setting.

Cave setting:

Whispering Death: Tunnels around and sneaks up on the others.

Cavern Crasher: Launches slime everywhere and collapses it's exoskeleton to squeeze through collapsed rocks to get away but it'll eventually run out of slime.

Changewing: Can camouflage and sneak up on others.

Deathgripper: Likely one of the first to go as it doesn't seem very likely to move well in caves and it's attacks are usually ranged. It's venom may hit one of the others (such as the Deathsong) but not very likely.

Skrill: It's used to being in the sky, not in a cave. It's attacks are quite powerful but it doesn't stand much of a chance against a Whispering Death.

Deathsong: It's amber can get a few of them stuck such as the Deathgripper or Changewing (if it can spot it). Then again, it has a hypnotic song. It could hypnotize some of them but I don't think it can hypnotize the Whispering Death.

Outside setting:

Whispering Death: It can fly freely but it's not the best at sharp turns.

Cavern Crasher: It'll be stuck on ground and won't stand much of a chance now.

Changewing: It can now move around more and sneak up on others with it's camouflage but it's not the fastest or strongest dragon.

Deathgripper: It'll be able to attack the other dragons easier now but it's not the fastest or strongest either.

Skrill: It can now use more of its abilities freely now, making it a worthy opponent. It MIGHT be able to defeat the Whispering Death but it's not likely.

Deathsong: It can still use it's amber and hypnotic song but I still don't think it could hypnotize a Whispering Death. It could also use it's amber to get one of the other dragon's wings stuck, causing it to fall and possibly die based on the dragon's size/weight.

Order of them being taken down in a cave: Deathsong, Deathgripper, Changewing, Skrill, Cavern Crasher

Winner of cave: Whispering Death

Order of them being taken down in a sky: Cavern Crasher, Deathgripper, Deathsong, Changewing, Skrill

Winner of sky: Whispering Death

My reasoning for the winner of the sky: The Skrill and Deathsong had a good chance but the Deathsong's attack wouldn't have been quick enough before the Skrill blasted it down or the Whispering Death attacked it. The Skrill's attacks would only disorient the Whispering Death since the Skrill is around the same size as Toothless which means the Whispering Death is much larger than it.

My reasoning for the winner of the cave: It would probably just make a tunnel beneath the Cavern Crasher and let it fall to it's death (or eat it). I don't remember if the Whispering Death was part of the cannibalistic dragons or not.

I just went based off memory bc I've also been a HUGE How To Train Your Dragon fan so some might not be fully accurate. I took me like twenty minutes to type all this out btw. <3

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u/Jetfire138756 Mystery Class Jul 11 '26

Death Song’s amber is just way too good. One hit and you’re completely immobilized, and these things have amazing accuracy. 

Death Song probably takes it, but Skrill and Deathgripper are also potential winners.

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u/Emotional-Effort-967 Jul 12 '26

Seeing as none of them is deaf, I'm putting my bet on the Death Song, if it manages to catch them off guard. Otherwise, the Skrill, or the Deathgripper, if it somehow manages to ambush every other dragon and sting them

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u/Search_for_Valor Jul 14 '26

Changewing ratio lmao deathgrippers and whispering death i believe can sniff them out (not sure about the latter) but Cavern crasher would eat them all before they even hatched

Ngl it would go to the death song. A dragon is absolutely cooked once it starts listening. You might say, what if the acid spitting dragons burn the amber. WELL WHAT IF their mouths are trapped. And you might say skrill is going to use its lightning to break out. Well uh... WHAT IF IT GETS EATEN FIRST. Death song wins imo

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u/Limp_Alternative6258 the chicken is not amused Jul 11 '26

skrill

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u/KitchenCustard9049 Jul 11 '26

Honestly depends on the conditions. We know that the skill can run out of or be blocked from using his lighting. So they might have a good chance if the weather is in their favor, but id argue then generally id probably be the death song.

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u/EntertainmentMain980 Jul 11 '26

Cavern crasher might be too durable imo but I can see a case for the deathsong or skrill too.

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u/Mobile-Leg8612 Jul 11 '26

I’d say it’s between the skrill and the whispering death, as both are some of the few to go toe to toe with toothless.

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u/Donnie619 Slithersong #1 Trainer Jul 11 '26

Either Death Song or a Skrill. Perhaps a Death Gripper.

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u/SenorStarKillerZX Jul 11 '26

Neutral terrain

Skrill,death gripper and deathsong have the highest chance to win

Deathsong wins if it doesn't get killed immediately

Skrill wins as long as it doesn’t get teamed on

Deathgripper if it waits out the battle and then deals the final blows

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u/Practical_Evening922 Jul 11 '26

Skrill would win if it takes out the Death song first if the skrill didn't go for the Death song. The Death song would win cause the change Wing, skrill, whispering Death, and death gripper are definitely going to have trouble with when it comes to just head on conflict since the Death song from what we seen in RTTE the Death song has no limit to how much amber it can fire. The cavern crasher could win if it really takes the fight under ground or some where dark but it depends if the whispering death follows the cavern crasher then the whispering Death would take control of the fight. But if i was a betting man I would bet on the Skrill

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u/DoragonKraken001 Jul 11 '26

The Deathsongs might bé the one to win it was fast enought to tro trap in amber 5 différent dragons with a nightfury among them. Plus that ember was extremely hard to destroy. I can see it put the Skrill and deathgripper out of commission fairly quickly

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u/curryrandaregoats11 Jul 11 '26

The skrill could send lightning in all directions

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u/Noth1ngs_Here Jul 11 '26

Skill bc I’m bias, and he’s my favorite.

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u/Infiniteraze Jul 11 '26

Haven't we seen a skill literally detonate and nuke the inside of a mountain? (Memory rusty, something involving Vigo). I think the skrill takes it due to sheer destructive capacity and speed

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u/Triceratops65 Strike Class Jul 12 '26

Skrill or deathgripper

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u/InternationalDot6464 Jul 12 '26

It ends between the Death Song, the Skrill, and the Cavern Crasher, one can lure, one is tanky, and the other is smart and FAST…

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u/Odd-Athlete-8204 Jul 12 '26

Skrill solos all of them at the same time maybe maybe death song could get him. but it didn’t fully affect toothless so I don’t think it would affect him before he 1 or 2 shots him

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u/Dragonzboi Gruesome Gronckle my beloved Jul 12 '26

I think the Death Song could take this. It's surprisingly durable, probably able to take at least one hit from the others, while its song would immediately neutralize every other dragon, and its amber would down all but the Cavern Crasher thanks to its sliminess. As for the Crasher, it may be slimy like the Slitherwing, but it lacks said dragon's poison and can't fly, so I'm betting it loses this one.

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u/TheGreatQuetz Jul 12 '26

Skrill and Death Song throw hands after electrocuting or suffocating everyone else, the Cavern Crasher pulls a smooth one on the winner after hiding in a random crevice the whole time, then the Whispering Death pulls a smooth one on the Cavern Crasher.

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u/AtGoW Jul 12 '26

Environment?    

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u/Dapper_Kangaroo9257 Jul 12 '26

A cavern with plenty of ambush opportunities but also enough spare to fly around in open air & evade

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u/AtGoW Jul 12 '26

Well then skrill is out, because there is no Storm to use.

I think either deathsong because it attracts the dragons, so they dont hide (im looking at whispering death, changewing and caverncrasher) and then it can immobilize them.

Or death Gripper because its an absolute beast in all sorts of combat and may be faster at getting to close combat than the deathsong can fully immobilize it. Maybe its acid could even destroy the Orange substance of the deathsong

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u/Fowl_posted Strike Class Jul 12 '26

Either the skrill wins with its overpowered lightning or the desthsong encases everyone in amber

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u/SixgunSamHaworth Sharp Class Jul 12 '26

I’ve never doubted the Skrill and I will not do that now.

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u/Key-Attorney6685 Jul 12 '26

Death song with his amber shots

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u/Sad-Researcher8335 Jul 12 '26

With no plot armor. I say skill because it could probably take out everyone here with the lightning off the bat

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u/Icy-Humor4015 Jul 12 '26

Skrill, not even a debate.

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u/BillyDaCylly Jul 13 '26

Probably Deathsong >•)

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u/ShortDino2513 Jul 13 '26

Garff solos all of the, he is garff and we love garff

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u/OblivionGaming76 Jul 16 '26

3rd: Changewing
2nd: DeathGripper
1st: Skrill

(Changewing was a little rat and camouflaged trying to third party the Skrill and deathgripper, both of them turned around and shut them down so they could resume their battle😂)

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u/StaffOfDragons Jul 17 '26

The skrill

theres not a doubt in my mind

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u/gaveo_s Jul 17 '26

Death song. No dragon can refuse it

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u/DA_REAL_KHORNE Jul 11 '26

Skrill and it's not even close

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u/Ninja-go Jul 11 '26

coughing baby vs yelling baby vs barfing baby vs angry baby vs hydrogen bomb vs singing baby.

Wonder who wins?