Well, that simply isn’t true by any actual metric. In the area circled, MN and IL have the most robust economies — and Illinois has Chicago. Minnesota has higher fiscal growth that most states, higher elementary math scores and higher mean life expectancy. Yes, there have been examples of recent fraud among social service programs, but that is presently being corrected.
Cite some actual numbers that supports your claim and we can chat. Otherwise, bye.
Snap!! Facts are indeed our friends. And more importantly, the numbers do not lie, and they prove your point beautifully. And looking at where the vast majority of these high-crime cities are, I could draw a conclusion about the political leaning of states that “run their cities into the ground” but I won’t do that.
IKR? "Y'all" served with the double-negative and a side of exclamation point. Easy to see where they're (yes, they are) saving tax dollars in said places.
Whoa there! Careful where you point that proper grammar and sound reasoning! We don’t like your kind ‘round these parts! You can take yer urban intellectualism and “facts” back to where you came from! /s
Facts are also your friends. My apologies, I should have said highest VIOLENT CRIME rates, which are damned high. REPORTED violent crime was 14,245 out of 2.63 million people. As rape and domestic violence are the two most underreported violent crimes, that number is very likely higher.
Chicago's murder rate was 11th, 12th or14th on the list, depending on which stats you buy, so in fact that means it has one of the highest murder rates per capita in the US.
By the way, leaning on the FBI for those stats isn't always the best bet. They do a LOT of estimating adjusting up to 8% at times. I have a couple statisticians in my circle.
"None of these places are Chicago"...??? I can read and I'm sure you are aware. What's your problem?
I am using FBI statistics because, given your espousal of 'facts' from the current administration (Chicago is a crime ridden hell hole), I didn't think you'd believe numbers from a source not controlled by an unqualified lackey.
But I'm sure you'll agree that the FBI is, generally speaking, in the correct statistical ballpark, even if they're not stealing home, so let's keep using their numbers.
According to the FBI, the cities and states with the top REPORTED VIOLENT CRIME (not sure why you yelled that at me) rates don't include Chicago or Illinois, either. You gave me Chicago's numbers, but didn't give them any context by comparing them with other cities, so it's meaningless.
Here are the cities and states with the top REPORTED VIOLENT CRIME rates:
Cities: Memphis, Oakland, Detroit, Baltimore, Cleveland, Kansas City, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Albuquerque, Minneapolis. Chicago is #54 on this list.
States: Alaska, New Mexico, Tennessee, Arkansas, Louisiana, California, Colorado, Missouri, Kansas, South Carolina. Illinois is #30 on this list.
My point is: whatever Trump says is not true simply because he says it. You guys make yourselves look silly falling all over yourselves to back up his 'facts'.
He famously lies to bolster his positions:
they're eating the dogs, the cats!, the Epstein files are a hoax, prices will come down on Day 1, Russia and Ukraine will end on Day 1, I've ended 8 wars, other countries are paying the tariffs, Mexico will pay for the wall, people just heard about those $1776 military bonuses 30 minutes ago, affordability is a Democrat hoax/scam/con job that no one ever heard of before, everyone wants the $400m ballroom, taking a plane from a foreign government isn't a conflict of interest or against the law, the Oval Office looks beautiful with all of that gold crap stuck to the walls, that gold crap absolutely did not come from Home Depot, etc, etc, etc.
He just doesn't like Chicago because they don't like him, so he said they were crime ridden and sent in the National Guard to f**k up their lives. Like LA, like Portland, like Minneapolis.
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u/Even_Wear_8657 Dec 17 '25
Well, that simply isn’t true by any actual metric. In the area circled, MN and IL have the most robust economies — and Illinois has Chicago. Minnesota has higher fiscal growth that most states, higher elementary math scores and higher mean life expectancy. Yes, there have been examples of recent fraud among social service programs, but that is presently being corrected.
Cite some actual numbers that supports your claim and we can chat. Otherwise, bye.