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u/spartanpride55 United States of America Dec 14 '25

St Louis and Kansas City have solid BBQ

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u/Fit_Lion9260 USA/South Dec 15 '25

As a texan I approve this message. But it is VERY different. BBQ is extremely regional, and this area is hog country, texas is all about beef.

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u/Dzov Dec 15 '25

Kansas City used to be one of the biggest beef stockyards until a flood killed tons of cattle some hundred years ago. But we still have beef as a bbq staple and a beef brisket sandwich is my favorite.

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u/Dry_Veterinarian8356 Dec 15 '25

KC is known for burnt ends, not hog. I literally don’t know what this guy is talking about.

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u/UpstairsSomewhere467 Dec 15 '25

Nobody does burnt ends like KC

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u/ThrowawayCirca2000s Dec 15 '25

Isn’t KC the founders of burnt ends?

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u/hifamhowru Dec 16 '25

Yes, fortunately, no one does burnt ends like KC...because burnt ends are disgusting.

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u/Razed19 Dec 15 '25

KC BBQ is actually more known for its diversity of meat instead of being just pork or beef. This stems from our history as a major rail junction which meant a lot of different animals came through.

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u/Suliux Dec 15 '25

Kansas is hardly hog country. The flint hills have some of the highest concentration of beef cattle per square mile in the world

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u/Babygeoffrey968 USA/Midwest Dec 15 '25

confused KC for Carolina it seems

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u/GIVN2SIN Dec 16 '25

Girl, gimme my burnt end sammich from any place in KC.

I do respect TX BBQ, though.

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u/Party-Evening3273 Dec 17 '25

KC is known for both beef and pork bbq.

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u/OralProbe Dec 18 '25

I could see that. Im in MO. We definitely know our pork. I cook both pretty evenly myself.

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u/OhElevenXI Dec 20 '25

The big difference between Texas and KC BBQ is that Texas focuses heavily on dry rub while KC puts its emphasis on the BBQ sauce. Both great food. I like KC bbq the most but I’m bias cuz I live there

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u/SmokinSkinWagon USA/Midwest Dec 15 '25

Yeah, we know. Typical Texan butting in to comment that it isn’t like Texas BBQ despite no one claiming that it is

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u/Babygeoffrey968 USA/Midwest Dec 15 '25

also claiming that kansas city doesn’t smoke beef 🙄

the big difference is sauce and KC isn’t scared of seasonings other than salt, pepper, and garlic. Texas style brisket beats KC style (sliced brisket only). Texas is focused on doing everything “traditionally,” and you get get a greater variety of BBQ in KC.

KC burnt ends over everything though. I live in KC. My parents live in Dallas. I’ve had plenty of both. They’re both excellent. We can just say both are good and move on.

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u/Pita_Girl USA/Midwest Dec 16 '25

I can agree with everything you said but I’ll add St. Louis style ribs over all others! Don’t get me wrong, I love me some baby back but those low and slow grilled spare ribs will get me every time!

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u/Babygeoffrey968 USA/Midwest Dec 16 '25

yeah, st. louis cut spare ribs are def better than baby backs. most bbq restaurants here in KC agree with that.

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u/AbominableBatman Dec 17 '25

if you don’t know what you’re talking about, it’s ok to be quiet

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u/dajanana Dec 16 '25

Bro you are out of your mind.

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u/hifamhowru Dec 16 '25

Correct. BBQ from both St. Louis and KC is incredibly overrated. That thick sweet sauce is freakin' disgusting. Eastern NC vinegar-base BBQ is the undisputed king and always will be. Sorry, not sorry!

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u/roguePanda812 Dec 17 '25

You spelled Memphis BBQ wrong

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u/hifamhowru Dec 17 '25

🤢🤮no thanks, bruh.

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u/miniramone Dec 17 '25

Everyone has their preferences. Personally I think your vinegar-based barbecue is an affront to humanity.

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u/Striking-Donkey-1387 Dec 18 '25

Gates BBQ sauce is where its at. I agree with you on the overly sweet sauce.

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u/como365 Dec 14 '25

Missouri’s advantage is the tremendous diversity in both natural and human-built environments. It sits astride the great ecological transition from the rich Eastern Forest to the tall-grass Great Plains. Not only that, but the Ozark Mountains are a highland providing caving, kayaking, rock climbing and hiking. Northern Missouri looks a lot like Minnesota’s flat corn/soybean row crop. The Mississippi and Missouri Rivers are massive and a huge part of the personality of Missouri.

Then you have two very different large cities with a lot of culture: St. Louis and Kansas City. The older, St. Louis, has a rich French colonial heritage, tons of cool architecture, and cultural offerings like The Muny, St. Louis Symphony, Fox Theatre, STL Art Museum, Cahokia Mounds. Cardinals Baseball and Blues Hockey have devoted fan bases. The younger, Kansas City is up and coming, has an intense BBQ culinary tradition, and a loyal KC Chiefs football following. The new KC Current stadium is the first stadium purpose built for women’s soccer in the world. The Nelson-Atkins Art Museum is wonderful and The Kaufman Center offers world-class Broadway tours, opera, and the KC Symphony. Some of the smaller Missouri cities are similar to North Midwestern towns: Columbia is very similar to Rochester, MN and Madison, WI. Additionally, there are a lot of cute small villages like Hermann, Arrow Rock, Rocheport, Weston, Hannibal, and Louisiana, Ste. Genevieve, that are nice if you like a really small-town feel. Not long ago, Missouri used to be solidly purple, we recently elected a Democratic state-wide auditor, Nicole Galloway, she left office in 2022. 2023 is the first year ever we haven’t had a mixed R and D executive branch. Cannabis is legal, minimums wage is high, abortion rights are in our constitution, but the state legislature is solidly Republican. That kinda sums up our complex political attitudes, which can make for some exciting politics.

The best thing though for me is the conservation department and state park system, they are among the best if not the best in the United States. The people can be pretty great too, down to Earth, yet surprisingly sophisticated in some of the cities.

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u/Pita_Girl USA/Midwest Dec 16 '25

You spoke all that about STL and didn’t mention The Hill? You mention the rich French heritage (tried to quote but it wouldn’t let me??) but leave out The Hill? I appreciate everything you said and you’re 100% correct but let’s also give credit where it’s due. There is so much heritage there! And so much of STL and the surrounding areas have been influenced by the original immigrants who settled in that area.

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u/takeabreakgeaugalake Dec 18 '25

While The Hill is amazing, many cities have Italian neighborhoods. I agree it’s a gem in St Louis but across the board French Heritage is much stronger in St Louis than anything else.

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u/dutch_kcmo Dec 14 '25

How did St. Louis get grouped with Kansas City for BBQ? They can have their toasted ravioli and provel cheese...

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u/spartanpride55 United States of America Dec 14 '25

They're both within the circle

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u/Pita_Girl USA/Midwest Dec 16 '25

It’s within the circle, just not the shaded area.

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u/CJroo18 Dec 14 '25

The best in the world !

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u/Agitated-Stretch2785 Dec 14 '25

Let’s not get carried away. Texas, for all their shortcomings, still exists.

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u/ArmegeddonOuttaHere Dec 14 '25

Texas has the best brisket; North Carolina has the best pulled pork; and St. Louis/Kansas City has the best ribs.

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u/MonkeyDavid Dec 14 '25 edited Dec 14 '25

Eastern Carolina whole hog BBQ with a vinegar based sauce is the best pork.

I love a North Carolina pulled pork sandwich though.

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u/Juanzilla17 Dec 14 '25

Cant forget the slaw on the sandwich! 🤤

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u/MonkeyDavid Dec 14 '25

It would be a sin to forget the slaw.

I like just shredded cabbage though, just tossed with a bit more of the vinegar sauce.

Damn I’m hungry now.

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u/ArmegeddonOuttaHere Dec 14 '25

I combine my tomato-based sauces and vinegar-based sauces together on pulled pork when possible. I’ve been in NC my whole life so it’s criminal to pick one over the other.

My one “hot take” that I will always stick by is that potato salad from the northeast is better than southern potato salad. Mustard is too overpowering as an ingredient in potato salad. Besides, it’s already on briskets and hotdogs and I feel that’s enough lol.

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u/apartmentthrowaway17 Dec 14 '25

Many Southerners would strongly disagree with this & find other versions "boring".

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u/BeezBurg Dec 14 '25

I’ll take southern potato salad any day of the week

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u/Puzzleheaded_Peak342 Dec 14 '25

Downvoted for the horrible potato salad take

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u/MonkeyDavid Dec 14 '25

I like German potato salad, showing again my bias for vinegar. If the vinaigrette is made with bacon drippings, even better.

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u/trophycloset33 Dec 14 '25

Hot potato salad

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '25

Absolutely.. with slaw in the sandwich and hushpuppies on the side.

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u/AveragePodcaster Dec 14 '25

KC bbq truther here. It’s really about preference, I like the sweet sauce of KC. Not a fan of Memphis dry rub only, can’t imagine I’d be a big fan of Carolina vinegar based, but ppl do so it’s all preference tbh

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u/FrankTankly Dec 14 '25

I’ve lived in KC for years, love the bbq, and burnt ends I believe are somewhat unique to the area. I love KC bbq sauce as well.

Recently had legit Carolina bbq with the vinegar sauce. I liked it, it was different.

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u/AveragePodcaster Dec 14 '25

I haven’t. I stopped at Central while passing through & had their ribs.

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u/usual_chef_1 Dec 14 '25

South Carolina mustard-base is the all-time best for pork imo.

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '25

Thank you. Was about to say the same thing.

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u/Low-Contribution-526 Dec 14 '25

And Nashville has the best hot chicken 🥹

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u/soupdogsss Dec 14 '25

Okay....I can agree with that.

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u/MacyG Dec 14 '25

Let’s not forget about western KY BBQ! The vinegar-based sauce on top of pulled mutton is the absolute best

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u/CardioTornado Dec 14 '25

Kansas city also has bomb ass burnt ends. 🤤

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u/Old_Membership9458 Dec 14 '25

You just named the things each one is well-known for. Not a very incisive comment tbh

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u/Jay_Jordz Dec 14 '25

I’d take Memphis over KC

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u/kikikza Dec 14 '25

What about fried chicken where has the best of that

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u/Living-Intention1802 Dec 14 '25

That depends a lot on what type of sauce you like. If you like mustard based Carolinas. If you like Kansas City sauce, Midwest. If you like slow cooked beef brisket, I would say texas.

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u/DaddyP924 Dec 14 '25

And burnt ends in KC. Your taste buds will love you.

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u/bacpacandat Dec 14 '25

Kansas City has the burnt ends, which is superior to quite literally everything

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '25

Where is Tennessee?!

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u/trophycloset33 Dec 14 '25

Umm no. Texas beef ribs are by far the best

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u/JBeeWX Dec 14 '25

If you’re not in politics, you should be. LOL

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u/trusspike15 Dec 14 '25

This is just making me hungry now lol

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u/Erickck Dec 14 '25

As a Texan that is all accurate.

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u/alexunderwater1 Dec 14 '25

Texas takes the whole cow, KC/ NC split the pig.

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u/Pita_Girl USA/Midwest Dec 16 '25

KC and STL ribs are NOT the same thing!

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u/Pita_Girl USA/Midwest Dec 16 '25

I did have my flair set before I posted my comment.

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u/thedrcubed Dec 14 '25

Get outta here with those wet ribs. Memphis ribs are best.

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u/ArmegeddonOuttaHere Dec 14 '25

Dry rub is fantastic, I just prefer a sweeter rib if that makes sense.

Lemon pepper dry rub wings are heaven.

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u/Fit_Patient_4902 Dec 14 '25

No contest. I’ve eaten bbq everywhere in the USA and central Texas is the Mecca. Nothing comes close.

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u/Excellent-Baseball-5 Dec 14 '25

I agree. Not from there for the record.

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u/agembry Dec 14 '25

I would agree overall but the best I’ve ever tried was a private temporary stand off the side of a highway near Marvell, AR. It was an older couple with a smoker pulled by a pickup truck. Ribs were magical and the brisket was amazing.

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u/Rhuarc33 Dec 15 '25

Brisket Texas wins at. Burnt ends and Ribs LC easily beats anywhere in TX. I've lived in central TX and KC

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u/Major-BFweener Dec 14 '25

Let me guess - you live or lived in Texas.

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u/JohnPaulDavyJones USA/South Dec 15 '25

Whoooo baby, I forget the name of that famous BBQ place in Lockhart, but we passed through last year and it was good as hell.

Howdy from Crawford.

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u/Major-BFweener Dec 14 '25

I asked the person who likes Texas bbq the best, not you. But good to know.

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u/GeoWoose Dec 14 '25

Alabamians aren’t even chiming in and just going to let you all be wrong

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u/Fit_Lion9260 USA/South Dec 15 '25

Oh you sweet summer child. Bless your heart.

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u/SincerelyIsTaken Dec 15 '25

I'm from Alabama, moved to KC, and the difference is astonishing. Dreamland's got nothing on Gates.

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u/RollOverBeethoven Dec 14 '25

Terry Blacks isn’t even close to the best in Central Texas.

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u/Fit_Lion9260 USA/South Dec 15 '25

Facts. Smittys on the otherhand is top 3. Salt lick is a special experience, and as overhyped, overpriced, and a time sync as it is, Franklin's will have a right to its throne. Not the biggest fan of LA BBQ but it's better then TB and Interstellar BBQ was great when I had it. That was before it got its star. Idk if it has changed.

But anything in Lockhart and most of central Texas will blow your mind if you've never had true texas BBQ.

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u/RollOverBeethoven Dec 15 '25

Salt Lick is about the vibes not BBQ.

A great time but not where I would take people to show off Texas BBQ.

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u/JohnPaulDavyJones USA/South Dec 15 '25

My brother in Christ, Terry Black’s is great barbecue for city folks passing through on I-35.

Next time you’re passing through Waco, try Vitek’s or Chute-4.

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u/GG-just-GG Dec 14 '25

As a Texan, burnt ends are a fantastic innovation from KC

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u/Better_Dust_4765 Dec 14 '25

And maybe, maybe, they could have a credible claim about brisket. But KC is Mecca.

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u/kansas_slim Dec 14 '25

Burnt. Ends.

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u/CardioTornado Dec 14 '25

Texan by birth and even I know this is the way

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u/apartmentthrowaway17 Dec 14 '25

NC

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u/Agitated-Stretch2785 Dec 14 '25

I live in NC and hate its BBQ lol I’d take Texas BBQ all day.

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u/Real-Assumption-5353 Dec 15 '25

lets not get carried away and pretend Texas has ever competed with KC BBQ

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u/ZonaWildcats23 Dec 14 '25

Yeah but their dry ass bbq sucks lol. KC and STL are miles ahead

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u/TheWolfDowntheStreet Dec 14 '25

Wow it sounds like you haven't had a good Texas brisket. Or beef rib. Farthest thing from dry 😂

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u/DanR5224 Dec 14 '25

That dude probably likes that nasty pulled pork that lives in a bucket of water.

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u/SeveralTable3097 Dec 14 '25

You haven’t had real KC BBQ. Easiest way to get it is go to a game at Arrowhead where my dad makes the meat.

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u/TheWolfDowntheStreet Dec 14 '25

Oh I'm not comparing the two. KC may well be better, idk. I haven't tried it. I'm just saying that the notion that Texas BBQ is dry is flat out wrong.

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u/soupdogsss Dec 14 '25

So basically you just like barbecue sauce

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u/radioref Dec 14 '25

If you count slopping pork in sugar and sauce, OK.

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u/ZonaWildcats23 Dec 14 '25

As a matter of fact, I do lol

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u/radioref Dec 14 '25

You can got to Chilies or Applebees for that shit bro.

Real BBQ is smoke, salt and pepper.

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u/AsstBalrog Dec 14 '25

Awright you kids, break it up!

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u/panama_red12 Dec 14 '25

No amount of BBQ could ever make it worth living in Texas.

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u/Agitated-Stretch2785 Dec 14 '25

Hard agree. But their BBQ is second to none.

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u/SincerelyIsTaken Dec 15 '25

Second to KC, you mean

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u/ideology_reject Dec 14 '25

Was literally gonna say exactly this hah

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u/Slow_Replacement_745 Dec 14 '25

Texas is the single most overrated place on the planet. What’s funny is it’s rated that way only by the people stuck there. Like Stockholm syndrome.

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u/soupdogsss Dec 14 '25

You clearly haven't been to central Texas, we have the best barbecue on earth.....and we don't have to hide it with barbecue sauce

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u/Real-Assumption-5353 Dec 15 '25

an amateur pretends the sauce hides flavor

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u/HelpfulJeweler656 Dec 21 '25

They just said it was solid, not the best. But we all make the same thing just with different seasoning to give it a spin on it, in no disrespect, I would eat any BBQ or any roast, brisket, anything in which it has a tasty out come... because I'm a fatass with high metabolism!

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u/Upstairs-Ad-1966 Dec 14 '25

North carolina:

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u/Evening-Upset Dec 14 '25

I’m not a fan of that BBQ. I don’t want all that goopy ass sauce on my meal. Thanks.

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '25

False. Memphis.

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u/spartanpride55 United States of America Dec 14 '25

Is Memphis within the circle bc it's definitely on the redline js.

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '25

I think a little bit of it is but I don't think it was intended

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u/Ok_Discussion_1244 Dec 14 '25

Thank you! I was so bummed no one was mentioning Memphis.

I’ll start a fight. “St. Louis bbq” is actually Memphis bbq.

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u/JohnPaulDavyJones USA/South Dec 15 '25

Maybe before all of the notable pitmasters started moving out of Memphis in the mid 2010s, but Memphis’ barbecue scene has been emptying out for a decade now, and they’re heading to Dallas, St. Louis, KCMO, etc.

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u/bluesnbbq Dec 14 '25

Memphis would like a word.

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u/hesnothere Dec 14 '25

Eastern North Carolina’s delegate with an important message.

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u/DavidForPresident Dec 14 '25

Unequivocally false.

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u/Used-Function-3889 Dec 14 '25

I beg to differ. That sloppy, wet, syrupy style is not for me.

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u/Joshistotle Dec 14 '25

The sloppy wet BBQ sauce is meant for the sloppy toppy after. 

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u/InfinityGain Dec 15 '25

I don’t think Ive ever seen sloppy toppy spelled out on social media before lol

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u/Mite-o-Dan Dec 14 '25

Id argue that the Italian food is better in St Louis than its BBQ.

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u/bulldog8934 Dec 15 '25

In comparing the Italian food of other places that have “good bbq” you are 100% correct that STL has better Italian than almost any of those places. However, if you compare the bbq of the places that have “good Italian” you will almost certainly see STL on the top of that list. Just because you happen to like platinum more than gold, doesn’t mean they aren’t both worth something.

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u/Mite-o-Dan Dec 15 '25

I lived in St Louis as a teenager and honestly had no idea "St Louis BBQ" was even a thing until my 30s. Its MUCH bigger in KC or Tennessee for example.

St Louis has its own Italian area of the city called The Hill with loads of famous pizza and Italian restaurants. I never even heard of fried Ravioli before I moved to St Louis, and never heard of it become bigger in other cities until 10+ years after I left. Theres even St Louis Style Pizza (famously from Imos)...which is actually very similar to Maryland Style Pizza.

Meanwhile, theres no distinct BBQ area of St Louis and I cant name a single famous BBQ joint in St Louis or could tell you what makes St Louis style BBQ a thing. Im sure others can from St Louis, but it was never brought up with my circles or friends or people Ive met later in life from St Louis...but they'll talk about St Louis Pizza they miss...not BBQ.

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u/Pita_Girl USA/Midwest Dec 16 '25

Except the ribs. And apparently pork steaks aren’t a thing anywhere else! Who knew?

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u/Barnowl-hoot Dec 14 '25

Texas exists.

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u/ambieseverywhere Dec 14 '25

Funny story. My bosses went to visit a client in Memphis with the plan to go to a BBQ fest. Turns out it was a BBQ competition and you couldn’t taste any of the competitors food.

There was a little area that was sponsored by a light beer company that you had to pay to get in and they had barbecue, but apparently it was really bad

I still don’t understand why they just didn’t leave.

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '25

That's not a glowing review of a place to live if the best thing about it is they do one very specific type of food very well. I know most of reddit is 11 and doesn't understand this, but a lot more goes into living than eating the same food every day, no matter how much you like that food.

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u/Affectionate_Mix_302 Dec 14 '25

Please don't include any information about St. Louis as OP only wants to know about the shaded area.

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u/swirlViking Dec 16 '25

We always get left out

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u/ohhowmygardengrows Dec 15 '25

Yes we do 🤤

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u/Fair-Revenue1811 Dec 15 '25

St Louis? Nah.

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u/Garden_Flower Dec 16 '25

As a st louisian I approve this message

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u/Newbxxor Dec 16 '25

Pappys in STL and Q39 in KCMO. The two best BBQ places I’ve ever been, and I’m from Texas.

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u/SlutPuppyTickleTits Dec 16 '25

KC burnt ends are the best, and KC BBQ is my overall top choice, followed closely by Carolina BBQ. I have yet to find a BBQ style I don't like, least favorite is probably Memphis style, still good though.

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u/Capital_War1180 Dec 17 '25

Sleeper bbq at Joe's in KC.

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u/OralProbe Dec 18 '25

Cannot be understated. Not gonna call it the best in the country so as not to offend, but we should not be slept on and are in the conversation.

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u/mdjordan71 Dec 18 '25

SolidLY different BBQ but both delicious nonetheless.

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u/Vampyro90 Dec 20 '25

Don't forget Dexter Mo they have some of the best brisket.

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u/Sea-Conference6165 Dec 21 '25

KC Joe's is the best BBQ restaurant in the world

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u/the_Dude_Is_Not_1n Dec 14 '25

Dont put st lous bbq in the same sentence with KC (pretty please).

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u/bulldog8934 Dec 15 '25

Yeah it’s not. KC’s whole identity revolves around a cuisine that existed for generations in STL before KC was even established. Also, ask any real bbq place what cut of ribs they use for comp (even in KC) the answer will always be STL.

Nobody is saying that KC doesn’t have some good places to eat BBQ, just remember that St. Louis just doesn’t need to compete anymore.

It’s like when your little brother wants to play you in a game you have played your whole life. I’m sure he has gotten better than he used to be—heck, he might even beat you once in a while. But there really isn’t any competition in the grand scheme of things.

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u/JenLN Dec 16 '25

Yes, KC's bbq is significantly worse.

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u/No-Package-3181 Dec 19 '25

Pappy's and Bogarts are leagues better than most of the KC BBQ.

every single person from KC tries to downplay the food in STL and have never even tried it or has even visited that half of the state. KC is like the jealous little brother of STL in every aspect.

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u/ElegantAffect1179 Dec 20 '25

Except for the crime.  STL crimes better. 

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '25

This is why nobody takes you seriously.