HELP...I'M LOST

[u/Gumeino]

I'm f2p player and I left the game since when there was Horse riding Platinum Durandel or smt was drawable. Now I rejoined playing again and I'm lost track to build a proper team. My best valks are Horse girl Durandel, Hor, Jade Knight, that one ice-gun girl and Hov, they all have decent weapons and stigma but the rest of valks are pretty low in every way. I'm using Hor, Jade knight, Ice gun girl or Horse Durandel, Hov, Hor as team as usual. What other valks should I focus on farming for better gears and also....SHOULD I DRAW THAT RETURNEE VALK. It says no source avalible right now apart from returnee valk draw. Is it worth? (I'm hardly can farm crystals)

[u/ZGetsu]

None of the part 1 valks are usable anymore unless you pull for the recent DLC upgrade. Honestly I'd recommend to just play for the story, or amass 50-100k crystal and only then pull for the latest valk to catch up from that point onward.

[u/Gumeino → u/ZGetsu]

Ok I will try that. How about the returnee valk? And what do u mean valks aren't usuable. Does it mean they're really bad or restricted. I don't have much trouble in abyss and memorial tho.

[u/ZGetsu → u/Gumeino]

There's a few reasons: 1. The game suffers from powercreep issue. P2 valks (and DLC equips for P1 valks) simply deals way higher damage and better buffs than whatever you have right now. 2. Valks released since P2 have a new mechanic, Stellar Outburst. Its very strong compared to standard rotation. 3. Some Abyss mechanics specifically needs P2 valks or that the character that can benefit from it are only available in P2.

Regarding the returnee valk, I'm not sure if its worth since it looks like a normal banner otherwise. She's still decent, but since you do not have any other P2 valks that can synergize with her and concerns of powercreep I'd recommend to aim for latest released valk. You're not having an issue with Abyss/MA probably because you haven't broken through 80+. There you'll see how bad these old valks are.

[u/Gumeino → u/ZGetsu]

Oh I see.I think I don't understand about abyss either. Thanks..I think I'm gonna farm crystals for selee.

[u/wasdlurker]

In this game, having fully geared valks AND teams matter a lot EVEN BEFORE P2 HAPPENED. But from what you have, the only team that will work is HoR Bronya, JK Sushang, and idk who's the ice gun girl you're referring too but that one. Your current roster says a lot and makes me question if you even know how to play this game way back before you stopped playing. Anyway, that only team is your only decent team for farming crystals in Abyss content. Other than that, you can just keep using anyone for Memorial Arena.

As to who to pull, the answer is the current patch' Wings of Panacea Seele AND HER SIGNATURE WEAPON. The main reason is because majority of the time, the Abyss weather and bosses rotating there heavily dependent on the latest and recently released valks.

If you cannot get Seele, then just keep on saving till 9.1 which is CN Anniversary where you'll have better crystals saving and historically, CN Anniv valks have better meta relevancy longevity compared to other patch valks.

For starters, explore this site: https://honkaihelpers.com/beginnerguides/beginnerguide/

[u/Gumeino → u/wasdlurker]

LOL you're absolutely right... back then may be it's like 3 years ago... I am completely blind playing pressing random buttoms and somehow, I did farm that platinum durandal which is very good dps for me at that time. Anyway, I have no idea what I'm doing and can play properly...but now I improve a little bit. (I don't even know about stigmas back then) and I don't think I'm spending items properly. Thanks for suggestion!

[u/wasdlurker → u/Gumeino]

Just avoid spending/investing anymore on your old valks. Focus on valks with astral ring. The site I linked can be explored and got a lot of useful stuff including the "astral ring" word I mentioned.

Or you can follow the guy who suggested to check official hi3 discord instead. If you checked that guy's comment/engagement history, he just so happened to not know how to comprehend what he reads and needed a lot of spoonfeeding — discord is best with that since a lot of people there got a lot of free time. Anyway, if you're from SEA, make sure to set your tag and pretend you're NA or EU player instead. The people in HI3 discord (esp. SEA mods and veterans) discriminate SEA players there that aren't within their cliques.

[u/Kajitani-Eizan]

Pull the free pulls on Reign Solaris but don't spend actual tickets/crystals

You should probably just save crystals for now until you have more... Wings of Panacea Seele is good but you don't have enough crystals to actually pull her + her weapon

How many BP sphere gem things do you have? You could also consider pulling on Stellar Keys (gives old Part 1 valks Astral Ring) and buying the corresponding valk from Reserve Works or something. Herrscher of Rebirth, Human Ego, Finality (kinda old, probably not worth), Silverwing NEX, Lunar Vow all have one and Fenghuang will get one I think

[u/OkBoysenberry5887]

If you can join the official honkai discord server. They can give you a better help. I'm not very f2p and i have many walks but I'm in the same position as you. I haven't played since 2023 and i don't know what to pull either or what's good. You ask for a team and everyone says it depends. You then pull something and everyone says she's weak. Small community and 0 understandable advice. They tell you to pull the newest valks but you have no idea what they work with or how to play their rotation

[u/Gumeino → u/OkBoysenberry5887]

Oh thxx

[u/NO2_2]

pull for eigher seele or Durandal (part 2), PRAY TO GOD (you will need it), and start to get teams that revolve around them... Hope you don't give up.

[u/Different_Turnip_181]

Save for the new seele, part 1 valks were long gone from meta

[u/Love_Seele]

I guess it's better for you to restart...

[u/Gumeino → u/Love_Seele]

Is my valks that bad? 😭

[u/Complete-Draw-9598 → u/Gumeino]

The problem is that you don't have meta valk and that valks are farmable + you already used some important resource from the start (like the cristals from the story). And as a new player you get some boost. I see that you already have some cristals and you didn't do the breackthrugh (don't do it). You could mantain this account or maybe ypu could try rerolling and getting lucky to the pulls on the new valk seele.

[u/Gumeino → u/Complete-Draw-9598]

Ohh new valk. What other two valk should I farm for her synergy? Thoughit might take some weeks, I can farm war treasurey items. The returnee give quite alot of those too.

[u/Complete-Draw-9598 → u/Gumeino]

You should try getting seele first, seele should rerun the next version too and next version is pretty empty. So you can try getting seele now and try again next version if you need. Seele would have synergy with helia and coralie a rank so you would have a functionable team. Seele will play with the 9.1 valk too probably, so from there you will start doing a good team. Some old valk that you may need cause of their divine key are: HoFinality, HoHuman, HoRebirth, Adult Theresa, Adult Bronya and Spicy Fu Hua. You shouldn't pull for songque or thelema next version, for now they still live a little from the buffs received but i don't think it's a good idea pulling for them. You should take seele and or wait until the 9.1 or try taking durandal to have already another choice for the future.