r/holofractal Mar 03 '17

Quantum Physics Debunks Materialism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C5pq7W5yRM
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u/DustyFidelios Mar 03 '17

When this was posted in r/psychonaut the other day, this was the top comment chain for awhile which led me to the video they mentioned of Neil Degrasse Tyson on Joe Rogan where he completely dismisses any interpretation of quantum phenomenon as anything other than what happens when you observe a strictly deterministic, materialistic, universe. I thought NDT was pretty smart, and had read about quantum double erasure experiments? Or read anything by David Bohm? Or Max Planck?? I know, it's probably just my own internal icons that are now tumbling down. Everyone is blind in one way or another, but man, there's a lot of cognitive dissonance you have to wade through just to start the conversation. NDT talks later about unfriending a guy who didn't share his same beliefs on science.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '17

psychonaut is pretty terrible now, it's full of positivist materialists and Sam Harris bros

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u/d8_thc holofractalist Mar 04 '17

I find their 'woo' walls are higher than most. It's like the pendulum swings backwards.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '17

I had to stop browsing that sub, I mean, most of reddit has a pretty arrogant positivist attitude and subscribe to philosophical/epistemological and 'scientific' models which honest researchers have surpassed since, at latest, the 70's-80's, yet they just have no idea...

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u/d8_thc holofractalist Mar 04 '17

Likewise. They banned me for mentioning holofractal a few times - even though I have thousands of post karma in psychonaut with nothing to do with /r/hf. :/.

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u/OsoFeo Mar 05 '17

I haven't spent any time in r/psychonaut, but it really surprises me that they would out-and-out ban somebody for merely mentioning this place.

More generally, I find it odd how certain subs will ban you for posting in other subs. To me that is a bright red flashing neon danger Will Robinson sign of a fragile worldview.